Egnater modules???

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I'm a noob coming to Egnater modules and amps because I'm not an owner today, but thinking about
getting the Mod50. What I wanna know is if Egnators own modules can be used in Randall amps? Is Randall amps as good as Egnater?
The reason I wonder is because there's some heavy names out there using Randall and they're a lot cheaper to
buy...but I don't wanna be cheap and lose the tone which after all what it's all about.

Another think I'd like to know is if there's any modules that sounds like a Bogner Ecstasy? I tryed the Randall XTC module about
5 years ago and I thought it sounded crap. I've heard there's loads of modules out there for the Mod50...anyone got a good webpage where to find eny?
Is there anyone custom building modules after there preferences of choise?

I know it's lots of questions...but it's lots of money buying an amp without the chance of trying one.
 
This is basically an unanswerable question with 72 different factors involved.
Don't take me wrong - I'm not being a snob or yelling at for not doing a doctorate
level research project on the subject prior to posting.

I'm just saying there are guys on here that have been trying to figure out the answer
to this question for years and there is no definitive answer - only your own experience
and preference.

But, some of the factors:

Egnater modules will work in a Randall MTS amp, but only 1 channel.
Channel A by default or you can make a resistor switch and make it B,
but you can't switch between them on the fly.
That's THE main functional difference between the Egnater and Randall stuff.

Also, Egnater Modular stuff is currently in flux - all modules up until now had been hand built
by Bruce and his wife Terri, and a few other employees.
New Modular stuff is going to be outsourced, but Bruce doesn't know where yet.
Could still be in the U.S. - could go offshore.

So, there's the issue of New Egnater Modular vs. Old Egnater Modular.
We're all hoping there won't be any differences - accept increased product development,
availability and support.

Also, the Randall stuff is traditionally marketed to metal players. On the flip side,
it's a rare occasion to hear someone raving over how well a Randall blackface modules
is a dead ringer for his 63 deluxe reverb.

Egater's EG5 gets some love, but in the end it's the SL, EG34, and VX that get the most
love on the Egnater side. You heard almost zero about the Erect and even the beloved
SL2X seems to have fallen out of favor - at least according to those who post frequently.

If you love Metal - you'll probably be fine with Randall. If you want realistic and alive sounding
tones based on vintage amps - you're probably better with the Eggie stuff.

Randall will tell you their stuff is the same quality as Egnater just voiced differently.
Egnater won't go there at all - for obvious reasons, and MOST (not all) of the people on this forum will
tell you that the Egnater stuff is higher quality.

For custom modules - these are the two guys I know that make clones:
http://www.gigmods.com/
https://www.myspace.com/salvationmods

Both of them have Bogner Ecstasy offerings
I have ZERO experience with either of them, so search around and do your homework about them.

Again, no answer to that question, but didn't want you to have a TGP taste in your mouth about
the rig-talk egnater forum.

Nick
 
The Egnater is high end Boutique and the Randall is more of a standard amp, if that makes any sense. I had a Randall RM100 mod'd by Egnater to use both the Randall and Egnater modules. I liked the Randall better than my Mod50 for a few reasons.

1) It was 100w and by removing the fuse on a pair of tubes it was a 50 watter.
2) I prefer the tone I get out of a 100w amp (personal pref)
3) Holds 3 modules
4) could run 2 different pair of tubes at once.... 2 6L6 and 2 EL34s I ran mine with 2 KT77 and 2 E34L's
5) weight was a bitch if you play out and move it alot
6) Line out runs a little hot
7) I like the power section of the Randall with my Egnater modules. More Modern/maybe tighter feel

The Mod50 is a great amp and with the Egnater reverb tank is perfect for a 50 watter and sounds great in a TM212 cab.

The EG5 is a good module for a xtc tone but nothing will get a true Ecstasy tone like a Bogner amp.

Randall modules work in Egnaters M4 Mod50 Mod100 and only channel A of Egnaters will work in a Randall. You can have the module mod'd to use channel B in a Randall but you still only get 1 channel to use from a dual channel module.
 
Hi,

just my short 50 cents:

Between the M4 (Egnater) and RM4 (Randall) I didn't find a big difference soundwise, but as mentioned above, the Egnater M4 and Mod50 take dual channel modules - you have to think about, whether you need it or not.

I sold all Randall modules and kept Egnater's, because for me the Egnater modules sound and feel more amplike, especially when you are for the old school tones. I found, the eq-section in Egnater-modules works more efficient, that means on the other hand a bit more of work and tweaking to get your sound. But as you said, Egnater is more expensive. If you like the classic tones and subtle playing (interaction guitar, volume knob, amp ...) I'd go with Egnater definately. If you are more for modern sounds and used to play volume maxed, you could save your bucks and take Randall (there are some good stock ones as well).
But you could use Randall modules in an Egnater M4 or Mod50 as well, so what? And the Mod50 was handbuilt in USA - I don't want to start a discussion again, but for me that would be a reason to buy a Mod50 - one of the last ones handbuilt by Bruce.

And I still love my GnR (SL2X) module done by Jeff Hilligan - great hot rodded Marshall sound.

Good luck for you!

ed
 
Seems like the Mod50 is the amp for me because I really don't like the modern sound. The optimal tone for me is an amp with loads of dynamics, articullation with crystal clear gain. I want super string separation even with gain activated. Hope the Mod50 can do this.
 
marvcus":1pz4rmv5 said:
Well then make sure you get the EG5.
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I will check it out on Youtube. The one's I already know I will get is the Twin and EG3/4 for nice cleans and smooth distortion. If the EG5 is good I'll get that one too :D
 
Sounds like the Mod 50 is for you. I feel it's totally worth it man. I've never been so happy with an amp, and it's going on years.

Also good thing is, if it really doesn't work out for you, you won't lose much $$ on the used market (although things are really slow right now).

That's another option as there are/have been several on the classifieds for pretty good deals.

I've never been sorry in the least for ponying up the cash for my Mod. I've spent (and lost) so much over the years by trying to get by on the cheap. Have been happy now for a long while.

Good luck.
 
Buckeyedog":37thcl8p said:
Sounds like the Mod 50 is for you. I feel it's totally worth it man. I've never been so happy with an amp, and it's going on years.

Also good thing is, if it really doesn't work out for you, you won't lose much $$ on the used market (although things are really slow right now).

That's another option as there are/have been several on the classifieds for pretty good deals.

I've never been sorry in the least for ponying up the cash for my Mod. I've spent (and lost) so much over the years by trying to get by on the cheap. Have been happy now for a long while.

Good luck.
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I got my sight set on either the Mod50, Cornford MK50 II or Bogner Ecstasy 101B. I know I like the tone in Bogner...I like the dynamics in Cornford and least but not last the versitality of Mod50. Having a hard time making up my mind
 
Since the poster does not love the modern sound, I have to throw in some love for
the BMAN module. As an old school guy myself, if I had to pick one module for a desert island it
would be a 2-channel BMAN and a few pedals.
 
Are the M4 modules noisy? I've heard some talk on the forums that the higher gain mods (e.g., SL2, MHG, ERECT, etc.) are very noisy and require you to run a gate (e.g., Decimator or HUSH) of some sort.

Thoughts?
 
My EG5 (Soldano-ish module) is just as quiet as my low gains. Very quiet...
 
I own a Randall RM4 & Egnater M4 and use them in my cover band weekly so here is my 5 cents (2 cents adjusted for inflation)

The Egnaters stock modules are warmer or rounder sounding and the dual channel is a plus.

But do not dismiss Randall modules for this reason, they can be modded to your exact specification.
You could pick up a used Randall module and send it off and end up spending less than you would for an Egnater.

On the Egnater side I love my COD module, it's great for strat players and the EG5 is great.

as for Randall I am completely in love with my Gigmods modded Mr. Scary, XTC & Blackface.
and the Salivations Stonerverb has a great Orange tone.

Both units are quite, no need for noise gates.

Regardless on what you decide with the MTS series you can always try new tone with little expense.

Welcome to the MOST versatile amps in the business.
 
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