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having decided to buy a brass block for my Ernie Ball EVH, I purchased the correct model on eBay from
floydupgrades.com

it came in good time, however there was a flaw on the block face that would abut the trem plate. the damage looks to have been from a drop to the floor, and with the block in an undamaged pack within bubble wrap it did not occur during shipping. there is a raised ridge of brass that would prevent the block from fitting flush to the trem plate, hence would not transfer resonance.
I sent a pic of the flaw to the company and explained that I would prefer not to get into buying a file to take down the raised portion and would like a replacement.

the guy's name is Adam Reiver, and I have become all too familiar with his name in my inbox - now up to 20 replies.
here he is
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Initially he told me to send it back for a refund.
I explained (again) that I would like a replacement, although asked after the return shipping costs. Would they be refunded?
I would get a refund, he said curtly; of what, he did not specify

Now, this was the trend. He would not appear to read the content of the message I sent, and reply with a minimal message that usually bore no relation to the situation. It required clarification at every stage, and I got none.
In the end, unable to establish whether I would be issued with a replacment or a refund for postage, I let it go, and left negative feedback (first time I have done so).
well, that woke him up (I thought)
An immediate email is sent with strong language, to which I did not rise. I restated the case for being refunded return postage, and my wish for a replacement block.
I always refund postage, he said (for the first time).

so, I sent it back.
he then, without warning or email, refunded me $35 to PayPal
it was also not a refund transaction on my ebay transaction, so I was charged fees on the return.
I get $33, and my total costs are $49.80: $29.99 block, the $10.99 postage he charged initially, and my return postage (much cheaper than his) as well as this ppal fee.

I kept my cool, and did right to the end.
this auction was on 4th Aug, and here we are with the clearest of emails being sent to say no block has been received, him telling me one was sent - but no evidence produced, or chase on his shipper - and him replying again and again in ignorance to the situation
the last one I just sent and received was:

me: "no replacement block was ever received
him: "You received a refund. An extra FREE block was sent to you – now you are asking for another FREE block. So let me get this straight – you paid nothing and want another block – correct?
Thank you,
Adam Reiver"

the 'thank you' always rankled along with the condescending tone he puts to his communiques.

I have just now replied: "You sir, are an idiot"
fair enough as his last message, in 3 sentences has 4 mistruths.

My advice to all is simple: If you wish to preserve your sanity over and above your Floyd Rose sustain, avoid FLOYDUPGRADES and Adam Reiver at all costs.
 
Hmmm... sorry to hear that.
I ordered a block from him and it was as-described and sounds great!
 
Major bummer to hear what you went through. I've been a customer of Floydupgrades for a while with no issues whatsoever...nothing but great products and service.
 
I have never had any issues with the seller, but I was not impressed with the block I bought. The block I received still had rough edges and cutting oil on it. The holes had not been chamfered, and overall just felt unfinished.

I finished it up myself, and it works as advertised, but for what they cost from Floydupgrades, I expected more.
 
This just in:

"Re-read the chain of events. Go scam someone else.

Thank you,

Adam Reiver"

He hasn't ever checked to confirm whether a block was ever sent out or received.
and we get another 'thank you'.
 
Hi There – Adam Reiver from FloydUpgrades.com here – checking in personally. (Thanks to being notified by a loyal client about this nonsense) – I usually do not post on boards like this but I must defend myself against the slander from this Lee character.
I have serviced THOUSANDS of clients all over globe. There has NEVER been a customer service issue that I could not resolve – except one… This one.
Faulty product never left my shop – I inspect every product personally. I offered a swap, a return, a refund AND A FREE BLOCK ON TOP OF THE REFUND for his trouble… What else can I do? I get harassing emails from this guy calling me names and using profanity. I still offered him a second FREE block – not good enough for this guy.
I urge you to read my client feedback on the site – ask around and see how I handle my clients. The kid in Kansas gets the same product and treatment as some of my bigger clients such as Warren DeMartini, Phil Collen, Michael Wilton, Eddie Ojeda, CC DeVille, Don Felder, Steve Brown and MANY other top level players.
So either all of my non-pro and pro clients are wrong about me and this guy is right or maybe there is just no pleasing this guy. If offering FREE product to his bogus claims is bad service – I guess I am guilty.
I will not waste any more time on this guy. I just wanted to defend myself against his slander.
PLEASE visit FloydUpgrades.com and read the client and artist reviews and make up your own mind. If you are one of my clients, please share your experiences.
Note to Lee: Please stop emailing me for more free gear – you will get nothing else from me.
 
Thanks Bro!
Yes - I am planning on going early Sunday morning - will you be there - let's hook up - would love to see you!
Email me -
Adam
 
this reply is exactly what I have been dealing with for 3 months now
'slander' is to make false statements, which I have never done.
to save twisting it anecdotaly, here is a transcript of my last email in reply to "go scam someone else"

Adam,

as an Airline Captain of many years for a major International carrier, it is unlikely a $15 outlay would lead me to attempt to hoodwink
a retailer, wouldn't you say? Integrity is pretty far up the list of required personality traits in my profession.

I suggest it is you who spends time reading as you have replied numerous times in a fashion that indicated little handle on my particular
case. you will then read nowhere a confirmation from yourself that a block was sent, nor a confirmation that your shipping company
delivered a package. you can tally a count of the number of times I told you a block had not been received. as you say, it is all there in
the record.

my energies will be better served elsewhere, although through years of international travels and connections within the music community
I am more than happy to pass on my bad experience with floydupgrades and adam reiver. in fact I have already met some on my last trip
to New York who were surprised at the situation, telling me their dealings with you were successful and pleasant. I was able to beg to differ.

and best you change the 'thank you ' signature at the end of your emails
when dealing with problems, it is nothing less than condescending

Lee XXXXXXX
ATPL(transp), B.Eng Aero(1st Class Hons), and fuckwit(according to A.Reiver)


the profanity as you can see is directed at me.
I was not initially offered a replacement, and certainly never a 2nd replacement.

I hope all can see, by the tone of Adam's language what I have been up against.
It matters not that there are thousands of happy customers. I am not one of them.
I have been tacitly accused of lying, which is what rankles the most, and to say I am
'emailing for more free gear', well that actually IS slander.

I look forward to the quotes that can disprove that assertion.
 
Lee – You used the F word towards me. No more free gear… Don’t you get it? I tried to help you and when you were not satisfied, I tried to do it for free – what else can I offer. Do you need me to set up your guitar? (I have done this many times for kids who have needed help. Some have shipped them to me. Some were local and I invited them to my house to do the setup and install for them – also for free).

My record speaks for itself. Yours does not.

As I said – read my reviews. If you have dealt with me in the past – please share your experience.

I am sorry that I have defend myself in a public forum.

A sincere THANK YOU to all of my loyal clients!
 
FloydUpgrades.com":1nc0r3u9 said:
Lee – You used the F word towards me. No more free gear… Don’t you get it? I tried to help you and when you were not satisfied, I tried to do it for free – what else can I offer. Do you need me to set up your guitar? (I have done this many times for kids who have needed help. Some have shipped them to me. Some were local and I invited them to my house to do the setup and install for them – also for free).

My record speaks for itself. Yours does not.

As I said – read my reviews
this is the passive-aggression I have been subjected to, and now at least the greater readership can enjoy it too

I need a megaphone to put to Adam's ear, so I can say "what free gear?!"
if nothing arrives, nothing was sent.
what do kids and their guitar set-ups have to do with me?
talking to your clients in such a manner lead directly to the thread topic title; your language is degrading.

I have stated my professional credentials to bolster my credibility in the face of a potential character assassination.
Having been part of the online fraternity for over 15yrs it is the first time I have outed my
professional standing. It was a deliberate move, but not one I made willingly.

It has been a relief to at last say publicly that I was not helped, and did not receive any repatriated product from floydupgrades.

lastly, the use of the word 'fuck' (we can say it) is all pervasive and not a sign of weakness if used in the correct context;
you'll likely hear it within 10mins of turning on the TV tonight. it was used at the very end of our dealings, not during my
civil and patient intercourse with you (that does not in this case mean 'fuck').
 
Passive aggressive? What are you a psychologist too? Trying dissect my post? Go throw your tantrum somewhere else now. You are obviously alone with this one. I will concede to you. I have tried countless times to make you happy and nothing has worked. If you feel that you are owed anything in addition to the refund I issued, email me personally (like a man). I must say that FloydUpgrades may not be the right product for you (you are the first). Let’s just agree to disagree and stop wasting time with this. I am sure that you have more important business to attend to – as I know I do. I wish you the best in your future endeavors and hope that you find a company better suited for your needs – I obviously am not qualified. I will stick with my current client base of thousands players who are happy with my products and service – not to mention my pro roster who seem pretty satisfied as well. I am sorry that I was unable to make you happy – I tried.
 
I have purchased at least 3 or 4 from Adam and all were as described, no issues at all :thumbsup:
 
my point here is to draw attention to my experience, which is descending into something else as you watch
I apologize if it is not as interesting as seeing a pic of my latest plank, but it is just as important

here is some amateur psychology for everyone

'you are obviously alone with this one':
true as I am the one with the complaint. does that lessen it's importance?
this is an attempt to belittle my position as insignificant.

'Go throw your tantrum somewhere else now':
this implies some kind of territorial advantage, implying you have dominance (having just arrived).

'I have tried countless times to make you happy'
I said repeatedly I had not received the replacement
you repeatedly and excruciatingly replied that I could keep the block and the refund for my trouble
I've not got the block....you can keep the block...It never arrived...ad infinitum
the refund was short by 30%
you have not tried at all.
you have not tired, I'll give you that.

if anyone still disbelieves, I'll gladly present you with the entire email history.
for those who feel the need to tell us they had no problems,
good luck with your future transactions
 
(post edited as it was rather judgmental and unfair on my part no matter who is right or wrong.)

whatever happened to the customer is ALWAYS right? No matter how difficult they may be. Everyone I know in sales has horror stories about having to help difficult customers and feign a smile. only a small business owner gets away with treating customers poorly, employees get fired for such behavior.

Though many others have had satisfactory service that really has no bearing on this particular transaction. having done right before guarantees nothing for the future and someones else positive experience has no effect on jazzer and his current experience.


Jazzer check out these guys they have made me some really awesome custom stuff at reasonable prices.

http://www.killerguitarcomponents.com/
 
Thanks Doctor!
I sent 2 replacements… I get the feeling you are looking for a third.
Am I addressing his complaint directly?
I suggest that you buy from the killer guitar guy too – great idea!

The refund was minus shipping and fees – is that direct?

The 2 replacements were at my cost – is that direct?

Thanks again to the loyal supporters!

Enjoy the rest of your day~

Adam
 
I have never used titanium and love brass so much I don't think ill try it, but thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup:

hmmmm but now you've got me gassing...dammit do I NEED to try titanium now? :doh:
 
Dude,

I have had nothing but 100% 1st class treatment from Adam & floydupgrades.com
Floydupgrades.com services the best in the business and does not falter from it service when dealing with guys like me who are trying to make a name in the biz...

A first class operation!!!!

Ron

" The Better half"
 

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