G Major 2 In Front of Amp (Edited as Pre Amp was misleading)

[petejt]

The Gmajors just have effects, no preamp.


The Digitech GSP1101 is a preamp w/multi-effects though. Very cool unit.

I use amps for drive so the GSP1101 would not be a good fit for me, thanks for the recommendation though.

No worries mate. The cool thing though about the GSP1101 is that you can physically bypass the amp models in it, and just use it as an effects unit. Plus it can double up as a second preamp or backup.

I have a feeling the G Major II will only accept line level input so in front of the amp for just modulation effects probably will not work. Any ideas on this? I really did not want it in between my preamp and power amp if possible as I already have delays and verb covered in this area, wanted to put the modulation in front of the amp where I think it and tremolo, vibe type effects sound their best.

Any way to get a signal from instrument to line level easily? I also have a GCX in the mix that is feeding the input of the power amp in question.

to preferring modulation/tremolo/vibe effects in front of the amp! good onya!


Well, I actually use an SR&D Rockman Stereo Chorus/Delay half-rack unit IN FRONT of my MarkIV. The chorusing works really well in front of the amp for what I want to thicken the texture, and doesn't get too wooshy or 80s-sounding as if it was used in the effects loop, despite the fact that this is practically the thing behind the whole 80s power chorus stuff.
I just use it a bit differently and get a different sound.

It has a +10dB boost for using it between a guitar and amp, but I find in my case it makes the unit clip too much when I hit the strings hard. So I actually set it to line level. It works great. There's even a -10dB reduction for when sending an even hotter signal to it, but I don't need that much attenuation. Just unity gain.

So although I don't know specifically about the GmajorII, I do know that at least some line-level mod-fx rack gear does work well in front of the amp.

I understand how you feel about buying something that has too many features than you want. It's just too much of a waste. Overcompensating does have its limits, or otherwise known as 'foolish overkill'.


My guess though that knowing TC Electronic, the GmajorII probably won't like being in front of an amp (although it's almost worth a try).

If you do want to stick with TC Electronic, then I recommend you get their Nova Modulator, which is a multi-modulation effects pedal, made specifically to be used in front of the amp. Of course though it can be used in the effects loop too. It's got tremolo effects, vibrato, univibe wobbles, a tri-stereo chorus simulation, a fair bit of stuff. If I liked the "slick polished clicky brighter thinned out"-TC type of chorus sound, I'd own one in a jiffy.

Or you could try the Eventide Modfactor. Or maybe even a Redwitch?

 

[petejt]

The G major II has a consumer /pro setting

Both consumer and pro are line level. One is just a lot higher than the other. When I personally tried the g-major (original not the II) in front of my amp it made everything sound completely terrible.

Ah. That might explain why my Rockman chorus has a "0 line level" and a "-10dB" selector switch. As I said before in my case using the unit at 0dB line level actually lowers the clipping of the unit when I hit the guitar strings hard.


I gotta say that I find this 'consumer/pro setting' nomenclature quite offensive . That's just saying that a professional is a higher class than someone who just likes to play music without earning a living from it. Seems like TC Electronic are stuck-up.

 

[petejt]

gsp1101 simple and effective

I think the GSP would be a great option for your needs. I use one in front of my XTC (for compression, fuzz, OD, phaser, vibe, etc...) as well as another in it's loop for delays/verbs/etc...

One of the best features of the GSP1101 is that the preamp section is completely bypass-able.

Just to add as someone who has used both the GSP and G-major 2...the phaser sounds and vibe/rotary sounds on the gsp are much better than the TC stuff. It also has a kickass whammy function considering its made by digitech.

I agree... I used the original G-Major for years, and when I decided to update my rig, the G-Major2 was the first unit that came to mind... I tried it out and liked it, so I ordered one from my dealer. I thought I was all set to go. Then I found a GSP1101, took it home to try it out, and was thoroughly impressed... I cancelled my order for the GM2 and ordered a 2nd Digitech. I've never looked back.

Jesus H. Jedi my GAS is building so much I'm about to explode!..............


*spoont*

 

[Repner]

I see no reason why you cant use this in front. it has an input level knob you may need to max out but you should be fine. You also may need to ajust the consumer/pro settings (-10/+4)

When testing my unit when it was new I was at home using it in front of a practice amp.

The Gmajors just have effects, no preamp.


The Digitech GSP1101 is a preamp w/multi-effects though. Very cool unit.

I use amps for drive so the GSP1101 would not be a good fit for me, thanks for the recommendation though.

I have a feeling the G Major II will only accept line level input so in front of the amp for just modulation effects probably will not work. Any ideas on this? I really did not want it in between my preamp and power amp if possible as I already have delays and verb covered in this area, wanted to put the modulation in front of the amp where I think it and tremolo, vibe type effects sound their best.

Any way to get a signal from instrument to line level easily? I also have a GCX in the mix that is feeding the input of the power amp in question.

The G major II has a consumer /pro setting

Both consumer and pro are line level. One is just a lot higher than the other. When I personally tried the g-major (original not the II) in front of my amp it made everything sound completely terrible.

Yeah. I tried it before and found the same thing as well. Good for me since the loop on my DSL 50 is terrible as well. Now I can't use the thing. lol

 

[ttosh]

I see no reason why you cant use this in front. it has an input level knob you may need to max out but you should be fine. You also may need to ajust the consumer/pro settings (-10/+4)

When testing my unit when it was new I was at home using it in front of a practice amp.

The Gmajors just have effects, no preamp.


The Digitech GSP1101 is a preamp w/multi-effects though. Very cool unit.

I use amps for drive so the GSP1101 would not be a good fit for me, thanks for the recommendation though.

I have a feeling the G Major II will only accept line level input so in front of the amp for just modulation effects probably will not work. Any ideas on this? I really did not want it in between my preamp and power amp if possible as I already have delays and verb covered in this area, wanted to put the modulation in front of the amp where I think it and tremolo, vibe type effects sound their best.

Any way to get a signal from instrument to line level easily? I also have a GCX in the mix that is feeding the input of the power amp in question.

The G major II has a consumer /pro setting

Both consumer and pro are line level. One is just a lot higher than the other. When I personally tried the g-major (original not the II) in front of my amp it made everything sound completely terrible.

Yeah. I tried it before and found the same thing as well. Good for me since the loop on my DSL 50 is terrible as well. Now I can't use the thing. lol

I much rather would have a Eventide Modfactor in front of the amp, but I wanted to mount this in my rack, and I have no room in the rack for a pedal drawer, especially the Eventide ones as their knobs push you into having two open spaces above them (bastids) anyway I already have the TC on its way from Sweetwater, I will try to mess in front of amp and in the loop, I have 30 days to return and exchange for something else, which based on input I am sure that will be what I will end up doing.

I appreciate all the feedback from this post, a lot of good information given!! Thanks bunches!!