G major 2 users?

[crabby]

so, whats the verdict on this? how does the wah work thru the fx loop? is there really lag or not some say yes some say no? I want to run it thru diezel.The clips i heard were very good, and they addded a lot of cool effects esp UNIVIBE! so spill your guts, thanks in advance cj

 

[Yek]

Great fx device, but:
- yes, it takes some time for fx to kick in (no gap in direct signal)
- the univibe is not that great with dirty sounds
- the wah is not substitute for a real wah.

 

[muudrock]

Great fx device, but:
- yes, it takes some time for fx to kick in (no gap in direct signal)
- the univibe is not that great with dirty sounds
- the wah is not substitute for a real wah.

+1 on the wah.
The modulation, delays and reverbs are excellent. Lush and full. The wah is....eh, not so good. The Univibe isn't bad, just nothing beats the real thing.
I don't have any gaps in FX switching, it's instant for me.

I really like the unit overall. Once you get your levels set right, it sounds really good.

 

[crabby]

why the hell do they make a product , then half ass some things in it, hell dont put it in at all!

 

[Jordon]

why the hell do they make a product , then half ass some things in it, hell dont put it in at all!

Elaborate?

 

[crabby]

a univibe, wah? lagging in presets...seams to be a constant gripe on this unit.I figure if you put it in there make it right....just like many other products, is there any be all end all for fx, hell im still looking.

 

[Jordon]

a univibe, wah? lagging in presets...seams to be a constant gripe on this unit.I figure if you put it in there make it right....just like many other products, is there any be all end all for fx, hell im still looking.

I really don't think there is a be-all-end-all for effects. There are a LOT of units out there that are highly regarded that have lagging. Any unit put in the effects loop will be useless for wah....try putting a real wah pedal in a loop...that doesn't work out so well. I also think univibe-type effects should go before an amp to get the real effect, so putting that in the loop is akin to the wah in a loop. They may indeed be very well done effects, but placement is everything, really. This is my humble opinion of course, and it only stems from my experiences.

 

[Meathead]

a univibe, wah? lagging in presets...seams to be a constant gripe on this unit.I figure if you put it in there make it right....just like many other products, is there any be all end all for fx, hell im still looking.

I really don't think there is a be-all-end-all for effects. There are a LOT of units out there that are highly regarded that have lagging. Any unit put in the effects loop will be useless for wah....try putting a real wah pedal in a loop...that doesn't work out so well. I also think univibe-type effects should go before an amp to get the real effect, so putting that in the loop is akin to the wah in a loop. They may indeed be very well done effects, but placement is everything, really. This is my humble opinion of course, and it only stems from my experiences.

Makes sense. Not everything works well in a loop. I prefer chorus, phasing and flanging in front of an amp too, before gain.

 

[glpg80]

a univibe, wah? lagging in presets...seams to be a constant gripe on this unit.I figure if you put it in there make it right....just like many other products, is there any be all end all for fx, hell im still looking.

I really don't think there is a be-all-end-all for effects. There are a LOT of units out there that are highly regarded that have lagging. Any unit put in the effects loop will be useless for wah....try putting a real wah pedal in a loop...that doesn't work out so well. I also think univibe-type effects should go before an amp to get the real effect, so putting that in the loop is akin to the wah in a loop. They may indeed be very well done effects, but placement is everything, really. This is my humble opinion of course, and it only stems from my experiences.

is the reason i sold mine - to split up the effects where they are supposed to be. great quality effects though.

 

[steve_k]

I am not familiar with the GM2. I had a GM1 but I couldn't be arsed with the programming.

Problem with these budget all in one box units is all FX aren't best suited in the FX loop. You need one that can split to run various drive/wah FX up front and then some in the loop. This is where an Axe FX can coming handy. Can't be arsed with all that programming either. FX loops drive me nuts because I can never seem to get the volumes right so I just said to hell with it. I wish they wouldn't even put them in some amps anymore! But, that's just me and how I roll.

Which is why, I still default to a couple stomp boxes and run everything in front of the amp (think Adam Jones - Tool rig). Gigging, I cannot tell the difference anyway, plus I don't want to be stomping on buttons and forgetting to remember! Too much else going on! I am all about simplicity. Then again, I don't try to emulate U2 or other FX driven music. Wah, Delay, Flange and maybe a booster is it for me.


Steve

 

[crabby]

you run a delay in front of distortion? never had luck with that.....

I think im gonna go for the new line 6 m9 with my vh4....

the other rig is herbert and nitro, rjm switcher, rack wah, rack tuner,hard wire delay in loop, h20 chorus,hyperphase,boss trem, voodoo microvibe b4 amp... all thru switcher controlled by mastermind.

 

[steve_k]

you run a delay in front of distortion? never had luck with that.....

I think im gonna go for the new line 6 m9 with my vh4....

the other rig is herbert and nitro, rjm switcher, rack wah, rack tuner,hard wire delay in loop, h20 chorus,hyperphase,boss trem, voodoo microvibe b4 amp... all thru switcher controlled by mastermind.

I don't use any distortion pedals. If the amp can't put out, it gets put up!

Steve

 

[MrDan666]

There shouldnt be any preset lag issues if you are running it through a parallel FX Loop.. but I can see where a series loop would cause a problem with that, as 100% of your signal is going through the GMajor unit.

But should work flawlessly in a parallel loop!

 

[moltenmetalburn]

There shouldnt be any preset lag issues if you are running it through a parallel FX Loop.. but I can see where a series loop would cause a problem with that, as 100% of your signal is going through the GMajor unit.

But should work flawlessly in a parallel loop!

except many of the effects cant be used in a parallel loop.

chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, univibe, noise gate and EQ would no longer be able to be used.

 

[gbsmusic]

Chorus, reverbs and delays sre great, I thought the wah was very bad, the uni-vibe was'nt very good either, passable but not good.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I have been playing around with my g major 2 for a few days now getting the hang of it before i write patches and add it to my live rig.

I was absolutely appalled at the almost 1.5 second lag i was experiencing between patches! This would have rendered the device totally useless to me.

I then found this post on you tube straight from TC:

No it isnt true that there is lag between preset changes on G-Major 2. We? have however found a software bug that causes latency between presets if the phaser or univibe is used. Were currently working on fixing this.

So i went back and tested switching between some factory presets that don't include phaser or univibe and guess what, no lag!

I then updated the firmware on mine to the new firmware, not sure if that fixed the bug or not, I haven't checked it out yet. ill probably just give tc a call soon.

The Vyzor preset editing software that requires the firmware update is awesome! you can handle every setting on the unit through a wonderful GUI.

I really don't think I will do ANY of my preset editing on the unit itself. it is just far less complicated and more intuitive with my laptop sitting on top of my amp then futzing around with menus, dials and buttons. the ability to back up all of my patches is a godsend also.

I primarily bought the unit for chorus reverb and delay all of which are great. I don't think a wah in the fx loop could ever sound good, univibe is something im not into so i have no real opinion. I do like the EQ and the compressor really isn't that bad considering its placement.

As usual the Factory presets are horrible. there is literally one sound out of 100 I would ever think of using stock.

 

[muudrock]

there is literally one sound out of 100 I would ever think of using stock.

You found that many??

JK. I think it's a great box, once you set it up right and make your own patches.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

yeah i thought the echoplex patch was alright

 

[ke2]

you run a delay in front of distortion? never had luck with that.....

I think im gonna go for the new line 6 m9 with my vh4....

the other rig is herbert and nitro, rjm switcher, rack wah, rack tuner,hard wire delay in loop, h20 chorus,hyperphase,boss trem, voodoo microvibe b4 amp... all thru switcher controlled by mastermind.

I don't use any distortion pedals. If the amp can't put out, it gets put up!

Steve

I read it like he meant on front of the amp`s distortion?
Delay in front of my Mesa doesn`t sound too good either, and I play metal

 

[Yek]

There shouldnt be any preset lag issues if you are running it through a parallel FX Loop.. but I can see where a series loop would cause a problem with that, as 100% of your signal is going through the GMajor unit.

But should work flawlessly in a parallel loop!

except many of the effects cant be used in a parallel loop.

chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, univibe, noise gate and EQ would no longer be able to be used.

That's not entirely true. Effects like chorus, phaser and flanger often use a 50/50% mix (50 % direct, 50% processed).
Which means that you can use these effects without problems in a parallel setup with their Mix parameter set to 100%.