Gary Holt/Brent Gutierrez Langner Mod preamp

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So, this summer, I very luckily got some gut shots of one of Brent Gutierrez's modded amps from a very awesome guy. So I was able to make a good scheme for it. I finally got some free time to wrap everything up on this killer preamp I built on a tight budget.

This is a wicked circuit, as you can imagine. The only changes I've made are adding a tone stack switch to go from 270p/56k to 33k/470p, and a switch that changes the last voltage divider. I mainly just leave it in the normal position. Remarkably, for having 5 gain stages and no gate, it's dead quiet when I plug straight in. This is one of the first amplifiers I have ever plugged into, and didn't instantly think that it could use a boost. It retains the bottom end pretty well, with a pretty usable taper on the gain pot. It starts with a nice AC/DC lowish-gain crunch around 2.5 and quickly starts to bring you into fire-breathing territory around 4.5. 4.5 to 6.5 is prime thrash territory. Past 6.5, it starts getting thicker and stops being too usable around 8. You can put a boost in front of it and make it even tighter, but it doesn't work well with all of them. A regular SD1 or TS9 works the best.

It is a little picky with pickups. My EMG 81x wasn't the greatest, but with my Duncan Custom, like what Holt used for a while, it just rips! Surprisingly, when I tried Holt's settings, he said in an interview, it tightened it up a good bit over my typical B:4, M:5-6, T:6.
Here's the quote: "Oh yeah, JCM 800 settings, let me see. Bass, around 7, mids around 3, treble around 5, presence around 4, my gain about 6(remember, my {censored} is modded, so they have tons of gain), and master goes to 11!"

I'll post the Google Drive link if anyone wants to check out the demos. Fair warning, though it's been a while since I picked up my guitar, and the playing is fairly sloppy.
The NAM demos are just an 800 power amp capture with the Mustaine V30 IR. The in room demos are going through my 5150 iconic's power amp with my '80s randall 4x12 loaded with Late 90s V30s and 2019 G12H30s in an X pattern.
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1pfFkWIXELL9FYHFZS8u6oW3XB1u8dx1X
 

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Yeah Langner's version is a cool circuit. Not sure what Gutierrez's take on it is though. How close is it to what Langner did?

EDIT: Oh wait, replied to you over on SLOClone
 
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Yeah Langner's version is a cool circuit. Not sure what Gutierrez's take on it is though. How close is it to what Langner did?
This should be exactly or at least very close to what Gary Holt had in his 800 he had modded by Langner in '89. It's pretty close to a regular Langner design. It's the one I posted on that other form a little while ago.
 
None of those amps are an exact copy of Gary's amp, even Lee (Altus), his amp had some changes done to it. As was my old one and Corpses.
 
Who's amp did you get the pics of?
Thrashinbatman's, I was helping him figure out why his was so mushy, I'm pretty sure it's the preamp voltage since mine is tight asf, but he hasn't tried it with the change yet. Could you allude to what the differences are? I could DM the scheme if you want to check it out.
 
Sure, send it... changes made were made per amp, each amp done reacted differently to the mod, so changed were made depending on the amp.
 
I guess i don't have enough posts on rig talk to PM you yet. Is there another place that would work?
 
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