shar-vell Dan
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Phuc yeah he does -
SgtThump
Real OG
Love his tone on that album.
Kapo_Polenton
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Isn't that the Caswell 39 # amp or was that only on tour? Either eay, not that gained up for the recording which is the secret to making things cut.
Uzi Nein Millimetah
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I always turn the gain DOWN and the master UP to record. Just enough gain to nail whatever I'm going for, not even half a notch more.
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jasonP
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Good god what a ripping tone man!!
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ewill52
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Phuc yeah he does -
BADASSSSSSSS
japetus
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It sounds like a Randall SS amp or something
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harddriver
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Luv the punch, dynamics and depth of the percussiveness of the amp.......
I'm sure it helps that George really digs in when he plays and that translates in the recorded dynamics.
I'm sure it helps that George really digs in when he plays and that translates in the recorded dynamics.
Fiesta Red
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It's amazing how nasally that sounds today.
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harddriver
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He only used the Randalls on Tooth and Nail from what I remember. I think Under Lock and Key were Marshalls.
stratjacket
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That outro solo, DAMN. Knew it was good but can really hear him ripping it up on that.
Kapo_Polenton
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A lot of lead tones isolated sound like that from the era but that is what makes them pop and creates separation in all the instruments. Everything sounds so uniform these days and actually anything George releases now, sounds buried in the mix because he likes these smooth lead tones now. He has lost the bite in his tone on the records.
Airwave
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One of my favorite players since the '80s \../
jabps
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Lots of stuff happening amp wise on that album, Marshalls, Laneys, Rockmans and a Fostex reel to reel all used together.
My favorite player during this era hands down.
A long lost thread on this...https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/under-lock-and-key.92065/page-13
My favorite player during this era hands down.
A long lost thread on this...https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/under-lock-and-key.92065/page-13
Kapo_Polenton
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Ahh yes the Fostex trick. Someone makes a pedal that cops that don't they? JHS? Great playing in Dokken but man they were cheesy as hell. Cool factor shot through the roof instantly with Lynch Mob 1 and 2 albums. Amazing albums, greasy rock that grooved. The Dokken stuff played live is always so much better without Don singing. Even in his prime he was a good singer but his tone just dates the music.
Uzi Nein Millimetah
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Wicked Sensation was "The" sound for the kind of hair metal I like, one of the best mixed of anything Georgie has played on. And it was still of the (fleeting) moment then, just before the US devolved into grunge, instead of being a retro exercise.
shar-vell Dan
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bubbastain
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Yes and yes. If you listen to isolated tracks or even really listen to just the guitar on some of the most killer 80’s tones like this, in my dreams, lay it down etc etc the guitar is super bright, grainy without a shit ton of gain and a bit nasally while also sounding like it’s coming out of a 8 inch speaker.
I think most of us would be sad if our amp actually sounded like that. lol!
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neptoess
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The amp doesn’t actually sound like that in the room though. We hear the sound after it gets into a mic, through a preamp, EQ, compression, etc. Yes, the amps were rarely run super saturated for the rhythm tones, but they’re still run absurdly loud, and the power amp compression, speaker breakup, and anything extra in the console, e.g. an 1176, adds enough aggression that you don’t need as much preamp gain.
Of course, a lot of the 80s guys ended up using a ton of gain later on, when high gain amps became commonplace.
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