ACShreds
New member
Posted this yesterday in the TC electronics G system forum but figured that a couple guys here use the G system as well and might be able to help me out.
For the longest time i've experienced a loss of tone with my amp when paired with the G system with the 4 cable method. For a while i thought it was just my amp but then started experimenting with just the playing straight into the amp itself and found it was sounding way better than when connected to the G system. I just kinda went with the the tone loss as i was busy gigging with my band but i recently had some new preamp tubes installed in my head and it sounds glorious. Its raunchy, chewy, and heavily saturated just like i like it. I started from scratch today and put my entire rig back together piece by piece with the G system (working with the white paper) and right off the bat i could hear a significant loss of tone when i started connecting the G to my amps fx loop. I got it all put together and even incorporated my new ISP decimator Pro rack G, and while it all technically "works" the sound is lacking big time and sounds nowhere near the glorious tone i get when plugged straight in. I dont have any noise issues or hums or anything else most people are troubled with when working with the G system, just a sever loss of saturation and overall rawness of my tone. The gain is still there but its missing the things i love about it when plugged directly in and i cant dial back in whats lost. I've messed with every level setting (loop headroom, input gain,etc...) on the G and nothing i do is making it any better. I've also tried adjusting my amp's fx loop send level knob but it does'nt have any positive effect on the tone. Im thinking the loss might be coming from the connection with the G and my amps fx loop as thats the starting point of the connection process of the white paper and its where i automatically hear a difference. As far as the front end goes, i am using a Line 6 G-90 wireless unit and from what i've read most wireless units act as buffers themselves. My front end signal chain is straight from the guitar wireless, into the Decimator channel 1 in then out of channel 1 into the G system nothing else in that chain (even back before i had the decimator in the chain and the wireless went straight into the G there was tone loss). So Im wondering if spending the extra money on a high end buffer and placing it between the amp and the G would help anything or if it would be so minimal a difference i should just save my money and deal with it. Here's a list my my gear involved. Hopefully one of you guys out there can help me out with my little dilemma.
Mesa Mark V head
G-90 wireless
G system limited (updated)
ISP Decimator Pro Rack G
EB Tech 8 Channel Hum Eliminator (rack version)
For the longest time i've experienced a loss of tone with my amp when paired with the G system with the 4 cable method. For a while i thought it was just my amp but then started experimenting with just the playing straight into the amp itself and found it was sounding way better than when connected to the G system. I just kinda went with the the tone loss as i was busy gigging with my band but i recently had some new preamp tubes installed in my head and it sounds glorious. Its raunchy, chewy, and heavily saturated just like i like it. I started from scratch today and put my entire rig back together piece by piece with the G system (working with the white paper) and right off the bat i could hear a significant loss of tone when i started connecting the G to my amps fx loop. I got it all put together and even incorporated my new ISP decimator Pro rack G, and while it all technically "works" the sound is lacking big time and sounds nowhere near the glorious tone i get when plugged straight in. I dont have any noise issues or hums or anything else most people are troubled with when working with the G system, just a sever loss of saturation and overall rawness of my tone. The gain is still there but its missing the things i love about it when plugged directly in and i cant dial back in whats lost. I've messed with every level setting (loop headroom, input gain,etc...) on the G and nothing i do is making it any better. I've also tried adjusting my amp's fx loop send level knob but it does'nt have any positive effect on the tone. Im thinking the loss might be coming from the connection with the G and my amps fx loop as thats the starting point of the connection process of the white paper and its where i automatically hear a difference. As far as the front end goes, i am using a Line 6 G-90 wireless unit and from what i've read most wireless units act as buffers themselves. My front end signal chain is straight from the guitar wireless, into the Decimator channel 1 in then out of channel 1 into the G system nothing else in that chain (even back before i had the decimator in the chain and the wireless went straight into the G there was tone loss). So Im wondering if spending the extra money on a high end buffer and placing it between the amp and the G would help anything or if it would be so minimal a difference i should just save my money and deal with it. Here's a list my my gear involved. Hopefully one of you guys out there can help me out with my little dilemma.
Mesa Mark V head
G-90 wireless
G system limited (updated)
ISP Decimator Pro Rack G
EB Tech 8 Channel Hum Eliminator (rack version)
