Gibson Rhoads Les Paul

[9ball]

you wouldn't have to...you could send it back, or have it fixed under warranty. Every guitar company puts out guitars with this problem. This is not strictly a Gibson thing.

so you're telling me - after you make some assinine sophmoric comment about me and logic not belonging together - that you think it should be totally acceptable for a guitar that is supposedly "handbuilt in the custom shop by gibson's top luthiers" to have to be immediately sent back to the factory because it won't stay in tune at all under the slightest playing?
lol yeah i guess that's the "logic" that you're talking about?
even if it does have a warranty (i bought it used) i would still have to go through the trouble of sending the instrument BACK to gibson, and waiting however long it would take them to fix something that should have never been wrong in the first place.
and no it's not strictly a gibson thing, but the average price of a gibson compared to other guitars on the market, and the average quality control at gibson compared to other companies is pretty funny.
but then i guess what the fuck do i know about logic?

 

[Ancient Alien]

you wouldn't have to...you could send it back, or have it fixed under warranty. Every guitar company puts out guitars with this problem. This is not strictly a Gibson thing.

so you're telling me - after you make some assinine sophmoric comment about me and logic not belonging together - that you think it should be totally acceptable for a guitar that is supposedly "handbuilt in the custom shop by gibson's top luthiers" to have to be immediately sent back to the factory because it won't stay in tune at all under the slightest playing?
lol yeah i guess that's the "logic" that you're talking about?
even if it does have a warranty (i bought it used) i would still have to go through the trouble of sending the instrument BACK to gibson, and waiting however long it would take them to fix something that should have never been wrong in the first place.
and no it's not strictly a gibson thing, but the average price of a gibson compared to other guitars on the market, and the average quality control at gibson compared to other companies is pretty funny.
but then i guess what the fuck do i know about logic?

First off, the Custom shop is no different from the regular Gibsons as far as building technique.
The only difference is the body and neck is made in Tennessee on a CNC machine as opposed to being made in bulk overseas, then shipped here for assembly.
I bought a $5K CSLP that had the absolute worst plastic, poorly cut nut, 10/1 tuners, poorly picked cheap plastic pup rings and switch ring.
The fret work was horrific at best, and the finish on the guitar was not even cured.
You could literally dent the clear coat with a fingernail,
There was overspray on both the neck and body binding.
It sure was a pretty looking guitar, but man, did it play like shit and just never stay in tune.
I got a full replacement, and they sent another complete pile of dogshit back.
All I can say is NEVER again.
And that was not the first time I experienced that.
My friends store actually dropped Gibson guitars from his store because of the horrific quality and retarded prices.

 

[bigdaddyd]

you wouldn't have to...you could send it back, or have it fixed under warranty. Every guitar company puts out guitars with this problem. This is not strictly a Gibson thing.

so you're telling me - after you make some assinine sophmoric comment about me and logic not belonging together - that you think it should be totally acceptable for a guitar that is supposedly "handbuilt in the custom shop by gibson's top luthiers" to have to be immediately sent back to the factory because it won't stay in tune at all under the slightest playing?
lol yeah i guess that's the "logic" that you're talking about?
even if it does have a warranty (i bought it used) i would still have to go through the trouble of sending the instrument BACK to gibson, and waiting however long it would take them to fix something that should have never been wrong in the first place.
and no it's not strictly a gibson thing, but the average price of a gibson compared to other guitars on the market, and the average quality control at gibson compared to other companies is pretty funny.
but then i guess what the fuck do i know about logic?

You are complaining about the nut on a guitar you bought used...and are blaming GIBSON....

It is a minor fix that any competent repair tech could do. That said, you don't know what the previous owner did to the nut...or even if it was the stock nut.

 

[bigdaddyd]

you wouldn't have to...you could send it back, or have it fixed under warranty. Every guitar company puts out guitars with this problem. This is not strictly a Gibson thing.

so you're telling me - after you make some assinine sophmoric comment about me and logic not belonging together - that you think it should be totally acceptable for a guitar that is supposedly "handbuilt in the custom shop by gibson's top luthiers" to have to be immediately sent back to the factory because it won't stay in tune at all under the slightest playing?
lol yeah i guess that's the "logic" that you're talking about?
even if it does have a warranty (i bought it used) i would still have to go through the trouble of sending the instrument BACK to gibson, and waiting however long it would take them to fix something that should have never been wrong in the first place.
and no it's not strictly a gibson thing, but the average price of a gibson compared to other guitars on the market, and the average quality control at gibson compared to other companies is pretty funny.
but then i guess what the fuck do i know about logic?

First off, the Custom shop is no different from the regular Gibsons as far as building technique.
The only difference is the body and neck is made in Tennessee on a CNC machine as opposed to being made in bulk overseas, then shipped here for assembly.
I bought a $5K CSLP that had the absolute worst plastic, poorly cut nut, 10/1 tuners, poorly picked cheap plastic pup rings and switch ring.
The fret work was horrific at best, and the finish on the guitar was not even cured.
You could literally dent the clear coat with a fingernail,
There was overspray on both the neck and body binding.
It sure was a pretty looking guitar, but man, did it play like shit and just never stay in tune.
I got a full replacement, and they sent another complete pile of dogshit back.
All I can say is NEVER again.
And that was not the first time I experienced that.
My friends store actually dropped Gibson guitars from his store because of the horrific quality and retarded prices.

Now that...sounds terrible. Not a ping on a nut from a used guitar.

 

[9ball]

You are complaining about the nut on a guitar you bought used...and are blaming GIBSON....

It is a minor fix that any competent repair tech could do. That said, you don't know what the previous owner did to the nut...or even if it was the stock nut.

yeah? so? what's so odd about that?
the guitar was only like a year old at the time and the nut was stock. i've had some of my other guitars for 10 years now and they still haven't developed any tuning problems.
what could someone possibly do to a nut in one or two years that would fuck it up so bad? the grooves weren't filed or worn out or anything. i think it's probably why the guy sold it to begin with.
if it's such a minor fix then why would it come from gibson like that in the first place? lol
because they sell guitars like that at ridiculous prices to fanboys who hang them on walls lol
i might buy an agile les paul sometime - just will most likely never buy another gibson.
if that gets your panties all bunched up in your ass i guess that's your problem lol

 

[bigdaddyd]

You are complaining about the nut on a guitar you bought used...and are blaming GIBSON....

It is a minor fix that any competent repair tech could do. That said, you don't know what the previous owner did to the nut...or even if it was the stock nut.

yeah? so? what's so odd about that?
the guitar was only like a year old at the time and the nut was stock. i've had some of my other guitars for 10 years now and they still haven't developed any tuning problems.
what could someone possibly do to a nut in one or two years that would fuck it up so bad? the grooves weren't filed or worn out or anything. i think it's probably why the guy sold it to begin with.
if it's such a minor fix then why would it come from gibson like that in the first place? lol
because they sell guitars like that at ridiculous prices to fanboys who hang them on walls lol
i might buy an agile les paul sometime - just will most likely never buy another gibson.
if that gets your panties all bunched up in your ass i guess that's your problem lol

You are a funny guy. Always have been. I must have said at least 5 times that I don't care if you like Gibsons or not. I don't own Gibson stock. I don't make any money if you buy one. I am far from a fanboy. I don't buy knew ones either. I also said, that I agree that the RR guitar is beyond stupid. That said, I think your particular argument is flawed. You are judging an entire brand based on a few very minor aspects of only small percentage of guitars that you have played. Sure, Gibson has produced turds. Most companies have. Gibson mass produces guitars in huge numbers compared to a tiny shop like Suhr, Anderson...etc....therefore they will have to put out more flaws just based on numbers alone. There is no excuse for what the other posted said he received. A poorly cut nut like yours though, happens more often than you think on many different guitars.

As for what that prior owner COULD have done...well many things...or nothing. The thing is that you are bitching over nothing. The guitar wasn't even new. How can you hold Gibson accountable for that? At worst you could have just had it fixed or even has a better nut installed for almost nothing. Had you bought it new, you could have had them fix it. As for your Agiles and your LTDs....you have have them. I would rather have my Gibsons, ESPs, Andersons, Hamers, Fenders, Steinbergers, Schons, Gretsches, and various other guitars that I buy and sell. I don't waste time on stuff that I think isn't quality. I also don't have a particular company that I stick by...if it is quality and I like it...it's on. I will not waste my money ...not on low quality crap, and not on overpriced crap either. It is easy enough to find the good stuff if you look. Buy what works for you.

 

[sinfish]

Said it before and will say it again, signature models (that above and beyond "being" a Les Paul as such) do nothing for me... In fact, I avoid them always. I don't want some other guitarist's name, insignia, initials, or beat-to-shit road worn look on my ax - I'll do that myself thank you very much.
V.

I AGREE 100%

 

[9ball]

You are a funny guy. Always have been.

i don't even know who the hell you are. goes to show some of you guys really take these message boards pretty god damned seriously don't you? lol
what are you some person who doesn't like me because you didn't like something i said on HC some 3 or 4 years ago or some other stupid shit? lol

As for what that prior owner COULD have done...well many things...or nothing. The thing is that you are bitching over nothing. The guitar wasn't even new. How can you hold Gibson accountable for that? At worst you could have just had it fixed or even has a better nut installed for almost nothing. Had you bought it new, you could have had them fix it. As for your Agiles and your LTDs....you have have them. I would rather have my Gibsons, ESPs, Andersons, Hamers, Fenders, Steinbergers, Schons, Gretsches, and various other guitars that I buy and sell. I don't waste time on stuff that I think isn't quality. I also don't have a particular company that I stick by...if it is quality and I like it...it's on. I will not waste my money ...not on low quality crap, and not on overpriced crap either. It is easy enough to find the good stuff if you look. Buy what works for you.

you sound like a total douche. "look at me i buy blahblahblah this guitar and that guitar blahblahblah im so much better than you because my guitar costs more so therefore must be better quality blahblahblah" lol
used to be people would buy guitars based on what good quality they could get at a decent price. nowadays there are just so many douchebags like you out there who buy whatever costs the most and what name is on the headstock because that's what you think will make you look cool lol.

 

[bigdaddyd]

You are a funny guy. Always have been.

i don't even know who the hell you are. goes to show some of you guys really take these message boards pretty god damned seriously don't you? lol
what are you some person who doesn't like me because you didn't like something i said on HC some 3 or 4 years ago or some other stupid shit? lol

As for what that prior owner COULD have done...well many things...or nothing. The thing is that you are bitching over nothing. The guitar wasn't even new. How can you hold Gibson accountable for that? At worst you could have just had it fixed or even has a better nut installed for almost nothing. Had you bought it new, you could have had them fix it. As for your Agiles and your LTDs....you have have them. I would rather have my Gibsons, ESPs, Andersons, Hamers, Fenders, Steinbergers, Schons, Gretsches, and various other guitars that I buy and sell. I don't waste time on stuff that I think isn't quality. I also don't have a particular company that I stick by...if it is quality and I like it...it's on. I will not waste my money ...not on low quality crap, and not on overpriced crap either. It is easy enough to find the good stuff if you look. Buy what works for you.

you sound like a total douche. "look at me i buy blahblahblah this guitar and that guitar blahblahblah im so much better than you because my guitar costs more so therefore must be better quality blahblahblah" lol
used to be people would buy guitars based on what good quality they could get at a decent price. nowadays there are just so many douchebags like you out there who buy whatever costs the most and what name is on the headstock because that's what you think will make you look cool lol.

Idk..you seem to becoming unglued. I never said I don't like you. This is just your style is all. I never said I am better than you or that my guitar costs more. You really need to learn how to read. I specifically said that you need to buy what works for you. If agiles and Ltds work for you than that is great. They don't work for me. I have quite a few guitars that I probably paid less for than you did. My old ESP Kamikaze that I used to have, I paid $600 mint. I have a super 5 string USA BC Rich ST Bass with a Bartolini Humbucker that I snagged for a whopping $280. I almost exclusively buy used. Your last sentence is what made me say that you don't use logic, because I have seen you say similar things so many times. "...douchebags like me who buy whatever costs the most and what name is on the headstock...." If you could even write that...you need to stop posting, get off the internet and start reading a book. Whatever brain you have left needs to be reconditioned. It is the complete opposite of what I have said in just about every single post I have made. I only care about the quality of the guitar, not the cost or the brand. You are the one that has pegged me a Gibson fanboy, because I think you are quite silly for blaming them for a poorly cut nut on a used guitar.

 

[9ball]

Your last sentence is what made me say that you don't use logic, because I have seen you say similar things so many times. "...douchebags like me who buy whatever costs the most and what name is on the headstock...." If you could even write that...you need to stop posting, get off the internet and start reading a book. Whatever brain you have left needs to be reconditioned. It is the complete opposite of what I have said in just about every single post I have made. I only care about the quality of the guitar, not the cost or the brand. You are the one that has pegged me a Gibson fanboy, because I think you are quite silly for blaming them for a poorly cut nut on a used guitar.

lol so you admit that you're one of these trolls who frequent these boards and hold grudges against people who say things you don't like for years on end? lol
you've "seen me say things like this so many times" huh?
ok....like what? 4 years ago or something?
and you've just been waiting for your chance to troll me into some bullshit pissing contest huh? lol
whatever man. like i said i don't even know who the fuck you are and i hope you don't think anything you've said hurts my feelings too much because it doesn't. and i could care less what kinds of guitars you "buy and sell on a regular basis" lol. wtf

 

[crankyrayhanky]

What we have here is a failure to communicate

 

[tonmazz]

So, how bout that Rhoads Les Paul? WTF happened to the thread.