Gilmour & Waters

[amiller]

Makes you wonder.


"SCOOP! DAVID GILMOUR & ROGER WATERS PERFORM TOGETHER!!!!! - FIRST FLOYD SITE WITH THE NEWS! It's True! David Gilmour & Roger Waters performed together at the Hoping Foundation Benefit Evening on Saturday 10 July. The event, organised by Bella Freud and Karma Nabulsi, took place at Kidlington in Oxfordshire, England and raised £350,000. They performed four songs 'To Know Him Is To Love Him', 'Wish You Were Here', ‘Comfortably Numb’ and ‘Another Brick in the Wall (Part Two)’ before 200 guests. The line up consisted of Guy Pratt (on bass and acoustic guitar), Harry Waters (on keyboards), Andy Newmark (on drums), Chester Kamen (on guitar) and Jonjo Grisdale (also on keyboards). We heard from David's Manager a few weeks ago that something was brewing but this did come as a complete surprise to us. CHECK OUT THE FORUM FOR MORE INFO. UPDATE It's been confirmed by the Hoping Foundation that NO official recording of this event took place. Sadly, with an invited audience of only 200 it's unlikely that any unofficial recordings were made."

 

[gbsmusic]

A tour would just be incredible!

 

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

 

[amiller]

Yeah, but they have been very tentative about reaching out to each other for some time now. A tour would be incredible...I won't hold my breath. Besides, Richard Wright has passed away...'not quite the same.

 

[amiller]

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

I really don't know the inside history...why do you put the blame on Gilmour?

 

[~Abstract~]

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

I really don't know the inside history...why do you put the blame on Gilmour?

This.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

I'd be there. Pink Floyd's live show is the shit!!

 

[snowdog]

Sounds like a one-off benefit to me, I wouldn't get my hopes up of anything else coming out of it. I doubt Gilmour is trying to "cash in" since A, its a benefit and B, he already has more money than he will ever need.

He mentions on his live dvd (on the making of side) that his solo band is just for fun, basically doing stuff he wants to do. And he has said in a few different Guitar magazine interviews that the Floyd thing is "been there, done that". If anything, since Richard Wright has died, that should put the final nail in the Floyd coffin.

 

[stephen sawall]

I thought this was going to be a interview of David Gilmour by Barbara Walters when I read the title ?

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

I really don't know the inside history...why do you put the blame on Gilmour?

This.

Roger and just about everyone else alive wanted a full scale world tour after their 2005 Live 8 performance .

“David is completely disinterested in anything like that ...."
"After Live 8, I could have probably gone for doing some more stuff, but he’s not interested, so it is what it is.”

Waters

 

[Badronald]

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

Uh, way to show everyone you now nothing about the history of Pink Floyd.

Do some research man.

 

[stephen sawall]

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

Uh, way to show everyone you now nothing about the history of Pink Floyd.

Do some research man.

What history are you talking about ?

 

[Badronald]

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

Uh, way to show everyone you now nothing about the history of Pink Floyd.

Do some research man.

What history are you talking about ?

The history of Pink Floyd.

 

[stephen sawall]

Oh sure, way to wait for Rick Wright to die before you get over yourself long enough to wanna cash in there, Dave!

I'm as big a 'Floyd fanatic as anyone, but at this point, after Gilmour couldn't get his head out of his ass and do the reunion when Rick was alive, I really don't even want to see it now.

Uh, way to show everyone you now nothing about the history of Pink Floyd.

Do some research man.

What history are you talking about ?

The history of Pink Floyd.

Pink Floyd was a working band from 1965 till 1996, that was 31 years.
Could you be a little more to the point ? ..... so far it is very it is not very clear the point you are making. What in part or incident in the history of Pink Floyd are you referring.

I do not agree with Sheik_Yerbouti view on this subject.
I do not understand your view at all ???

 

[tonmazz]

From everything i've read over the years, it sounds like Waters is a major egotistical Ahole. Sounds like he got a huge head after The Wall. I could be wrong but that seems to be the story. Am I wrong? I think there was a guitar interview recently with him and he came off just like that.

 

[stephen sawall]

From everything i've read over the years, it sounds like Waters is a major egotistical Ahole. Sounds like he got a huge head after The Wall. I could be wrong but that seems to be the story. Am I wrong? I think there was a guitar interview recently with him and he came off just like that.

Well I do not know about that ..... the deal was all about money. If your name is on the material that is making money, you are the one making the money. Roger was making a lot more money than the rest of the members. David wanted more songs on the albums, Roger was not about to give up his control and in the end left.

It was Roger's material that made most of the money. Egos of everyone involved was a major part of the problems also. These people spent a fair amount of time in court with several issues.

Look at who's names are on the old material and where.
There are lots of bands that have had similar things happen .... Beatles, AIC, etc .....

Roger like many artist opened the wounds in his soul and exposed them to everyone in his music and many people have related to his experiences ..... most peoples egos would never allow that part of themselves ever to be exposed, let alone for the whole world to see.

When Syd had his change they were all lost ..... it was Roger who got his shit together and made the whole thing move forward. The Pink Floyd story really is Roger's story. He was always the main contributor, after he was gone it was never even close. David is a great guitar player .... but his writing never made near the impact that the body of Roger's work has.

 

[Bishop5150]

Man, I saw Floyd back in the early 90's outdoors in the rain. It was incredible. Best show I've ever seen. The lasers shooting through the raindrops with the music was almost spiritual in a way. I was totally sober too. LOL!

 

[tonmazz]

Dude, seriously that was friggin deep! I loved "Roger like many artist opened the wounds in his soul and exposed them to everyone in his music". You should be a song writer! That is true and I guess it's tough to know what their motivations are. All I have to say though is Pink Floyd live in Pompei is unreal. The harmonies with Waters and Gilmour and the guitar on that are amazing.

 

[stephen sawall]

I am a song writer, I am currently working with someone I feel is much better.
..... and Live in Pompeii is a master piece.

 

[amiller]

From everything i've read over the years, it sounds like Waters is a major egotistical Ahole. Sounds like he got a huge head after The Wall. I could be wrong but that seems to be the story. Am I wrong? I think there was a guitar interview recently with him and he came off just like that.

Well I do not know about that ..... the deal was all about money. If your name is on the material that is making money, you are the one making the money. Roger was making a lot more money than the rest of the members. David wanted more songs on the albums, Roger was not about to give up his control and in the end left.

It was Roger's material that made most of the money. Egos of everyone involved was a major part of the problems also. These people spent a fair amount of time in court with several issues.

Look at who's names are on the old material and where.
There are lots of bands that have had similar things happen .... Beatles, AIC, etc .....

Roger like many artist opened the wounds in his soul and exposed them to everyone in his music and many people have related to his experiences ..... most peoples egos would never allow that part of themselves ever to be exposed, let alone for the whole world to see.

When Syd had his change they were all lost ..... it was Roger who got his shit together and made the whole thing move forward. The Pink Floyd story really is Roger's story. He was always the main contributor, after he was gone it was never even close. David is a great guitar player .... but his writing never made near the impact that the body of Roger's work has.

From what I've read recently it's a lot more complex than that. Waters wanted to use Pink Floyd as a vehicle to put forth his political point of view and Gilmour wanted to push the commercial aspect of Floyd. In fact, The Final Cut was a direct stab at the Queen of England for invading the Falklands. Further, Wright had a huge cocaine addition and marital issues that took him out of the game...Waters insisted he be fired. Gilmour invited Waters to join them on the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour but Walters refused because he wanted Floyd to fail...he once remarked that Pink Floyd would fail because he was no longer in the band. And yes, Waters did contribute the greater share of the lyrics. Mason was also having marital issues that more or less side lined him.

When the group got back together for the Live Aid benefit the rehearsals were less than fun. Gilmour wanted to do the songs as they were but Waters wanted to change them and do his altered version of them. Gilmour decided right then and there that he wanted nothing to do with the old wounds.

I think the band broke up because of a whole range of issues and I think they will not get back together for the same reasons. Why open old wounds at this point?

 

[boof]

I never paid much attention to the Waters DG rif.. for me it was DG that made pink floyd regardless of who wrote the music his playing was always the point of interest for me.