G'n'R sounds better with Adler..

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Is it me or does Adler just have the feel that is missing from every drummer in GnR since he left? Sorum was too mechanical and metronome like. I swear it is the timing on his snare hits.. he almost hangs back slightly and plays with the band and the singer and adapts his playing to the feeling he gets from the rest of the band rather than just playing in the tempo from start to finish. Listen to him play You Could Be Mine. To my recollection, he didn't play a lick of that in the studio. It isn't hard to play by any means but he just makes it better. Love this guy. I am a huge Menza and Lombardo fan but people always are surprised to find out that I name him among my favourite drummers. Just like guitar isn't about scales, neither is drums, it is about music. Anybody with me?



 
Agree. Most guitarists rip on them. But if you got a good drummer. It's the foundation of the song.
When we jam I will tell my drummer lay down any beat. And I will play to it.
We get in that pocket and it's game over. :thumbsup:
 
Hell yeah. Alder GnR is where it's at, for all the reasons you mentioned. I couldn't see them when they came around last year, and all my buddies blew up my phone when he came out on stage and played a few songs with them.
 
Slash mentioned something in his book about Adlers groove and didn't realize it was so hard to replicate until they tried to replace him.
 
Agree 1000% percent. Adler brought the chaos and edge to GNR, Matt Sorum is too much of a polished studio drummer.
 
My favorite type of drummers are the ones who hang back and feel it out as it goes.
Alder is so damn good at that.
Joey Kramer and Myron Grombacher (Pat Benatar's band) are two of my favorites regarding that style of play
 
billboogie":34x9b7t3 said:
My favorite type of drummers are the ones who hang back and feel it out as it goes.
Alder is so damn good at that.
Joey Kramer and Myron Grombacher (Pat Benatar's band) are two of my favorites regarding that style of play
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No matter the music, I think this separates a great drummer from a technical drummer alone. For guns you need that sleeze and laid back sound. Too bang on rushes everything. You can listen back to back to the live performances where Adler jumps on for a few tunes and hear how he settles the band into a groove. I find with Axl's style of singing, other drummers force him to rush his delivery. Amazing that one simple change and slight rythmic change can throw the whole formula off. Like Mickey Dee in King Diamond.. a lot of the later albums suffered from pattern drummers vs a guy that could bring the back end alive.
 
PS- and dare I say it.. KISS with Peter! Cheesy but he is a huge part of that iconic sound with the way he drummed.
 
Kapo_Polenton":21twq911 said:
PS- and dare I say it.. KISS with Peter! Cheesy but he is a huge part of that iconic sound with the way he drummed.
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Agree 10000 percent. Peter had this little 'jazz' style he used. You can tell it was him. :rock:
 
Adler and Izzy was THE groove you can't replace that chemistry ...Sorum is a great drummer his Nuerotic outsiders tracks are slamming
 
I feel the same about Mike Portnoy and Dream Theater. They're not the same without Portnoy.
 
Agreed.....Phil Rudd and Steven Adler have that certain swagger that is like the Charlie Watts groove.
 
Spot on.

The swing and grease was forever gone when he left.

It's called rock n roll.
 
You are so right. A part of the signature sound is lost without him. Just like Iron Maiden without Clive Burr or AC/DC without Phil Rudd..
 
I believe Civil War was recorded with Adler. It would make sense as it feels different ie. better, from the rest of those era songs. I really don't like Sorum's drummimg, never did. Too clean. He's very skilled but it has no feeling.
 
skoora":3cobjizq said:
I believe Civil War was recorded with Adler. It would make sense as it feels different ie. better, from the rest of those era songs. I really don't like Sorum's drummimg, never did. Too clean. He's very skilled but it has no feeling.
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Ya I think you're right. I think they said it was a mess and took a ton of editing to get the drum track right because he was messing up.
 
Starman22":1hacrr59 said:
Agreed.....Phil Rudd and Steven Adler have that certain swagger that is like the Charlie Watts groove.
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Not to hijack, but Phil and Charlie are total monster drummers who cannot be replaced. I had the privilege of watching Charlie do a soundcheck from the side of the stage on the Steel Wheels tour. Ho-lee-fuk, was he a monster. Phil is the reason most AC/DC tribute bands suck. Singers and guitar players who can nail that stuff grow on trees. But no drummer bothers to learn every little Phil Rudd trick and dynamic, and he so makes every song. As much as I live for that guitar tone, I find myself listening to the drums more on old AC/DC tunes.

Anyway, I love Adler too. But I thought Matt was fantastic for UYI II. Those songs fit his style better than Adler's.
 
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