Got a Ribbon Mic..

[midnightlaundry]

Expensive for me. Got things sounding alright for a bedroom jockey..

Deliverance D120

https://soundcloud.com/midnightlaundry-1/heavy

 

[RaceU4her]

sounds good! where did you have it placed? i like putting a 57 right on the cone and a ribbon near the rim and 5-6db lower

 

[jkdsteve]

Wow, very nice and full tone! \m/

 

[midnightlaundry]

sounds good! where did you have it placed? i like putting a 57 right on the cone and a ribbon near the rim and 5-6db lower

I've been messing with it since Friday.. My first go was right over the voice coil and it sounded alright. But I tried a bunch of different things and ended up over the edge of the VC where it's less shrill but still detailed.

I change my mind about guitar sounds by the day, so I'm sure I'll hate this tomorrow..

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

I also like a ribbon worked in but have had some great results with a 57 and E906... it's crazy what a blend of mics does to the sound. Almost makes it sound more like what you hear in the room where just a 57 alone gives you the bite that might be all that is required for heavier stuff.

 

[dstroud]

nice!! which one did you get?

 

[slash57X]

hell yeah, sounds great!
I'm also curious which one it is.

 

[midnightlaundry]

I spent the money and got a Royer R121. But really, I had a CAD Trion 7000 years ago that I sold because I didn't know what I was doing. I bet I could get the same results at a fraction of the cost.

Now CAD has a new ribbon for live use. I'd like to try this one instead and keep a few bux in my pocket.

http://cadaudio.com/products/cad-live/d82

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

mics are such a slippery subject... some people say a good mic without a good pre is a lost cause... i sort of feel it might go speaker>mic>pre simply because the tonal characteristics are greater on the first two though there is no doubt a nice pre makes a difference when you A/B similar setups.

I never could justify the splurge though the 121 is tried tested and true when blended. I ended up with a cascade fathead II but i do feel it doesn't match the 121 at all and leans to being too dark and less defined. I picked up an 80's seinheiser 421 to pair with the 57 but then my daughter came along and it is still in the box. In a perfect world, I will have my 4x12 tucked away with all 4 mics on it and i would mix and blend to see what was best.

 

[Seitz333]

I have a Peluso TR 14, which is their Tube Ribbon mic and love it when mixed with a Shure SM57.

Chuck

 

[JTyson]

My go-to is a R121 Royer mixed with a Bock 195, but a 57 with the Royer is killer too. One goes to an UA LA610 and the other goes to a Warm WA73EQ, they are both fantastic, the Warm Pre is a bit more aggressive than the LA610. Blend to taste
Clip sounds great, the guitars sound full and rich across the board with good detail, nice job!

 

[JTyson]

mics are such a slippery subject... some people say a good mic without a good pre is a lost cause... i sort of feel it might go speaker>mic>pre simply because the tonal characteristics are greater on the first two though there is no doubt a nice pre makes a difference when you A/B similar setups.

I never could justify the splurge though the 121 is tried tested and true when blended. I ended up with a cascade fathead II but i do feel it doesn't match the 121 at all and leans to being too dark and less defined. I picked up an 80's seinheiser 421 to pair with the 57 but then my daughter came along and it is still in the box. In a perfect world, I will have my 4x12 tucked away with all 4 mics on it and i would mix and blend to see what was best.

All 4 of those are great mics that would sound great blended. Even my R121 by itself sounds less aggressive, I always blend it with something. For me it depends on the song and what we are going for, the 121 by itself would be great for clean stuff that you want to sound neutral compared to full on gain tones. The cascade ribbon and a 57 should sound killer with the right mic pre's

 

[midnightlaundry]

mics are such a slippery subject... some people say a good mic without a good pre is a lost cause... i sort of feel it might go speaker>mic>pre simply because the tonal characteristics are greater on the first two though there is no doubt a nice pre makes a difference when you A/B similar setups.

I never could justify the splurge though the 121 is tried tested and true when blended. I ended up with a cascade fathead II but i do feel it doesn't match the 121 at all and leans to being too dark and less defined. I picked up an 80's seinheiser 421 to pair with the 57 but then my daughter came along and it is still in the box. In a perfect world, I will have my 4x12 tucked away with all 4 mics on it and i would mix and blend to see what was best.

I never had a highend micpre.. Anyone with experince will rave about something Neve, but do I really need to spend that money for doing my stupid internet demo clips?? My cheap pre has a variable impedance which has a big effect on the sound. More impedance takes the harshness out of a crusty brittle sounding mic. It seems to be good enough for what I do.

Even if my stuff makes an instrument sound good, it doesn't make me play any better or write a hit song. I think this stuff is secondary. Studio guys act like they're so prestigious and it makes me laugh.. It's just gear, like who has the fastest car..

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

mics are such a slippery subject... some people say a good mic without a good pre is a lost cause... i sort of feel it might go speaker>mic>pre simply because the tonal characteristics are greater on the first two though there is no doubt a nice pre makes a difference when you A/B similar setups.

I never could justify the splurge though the 121 is tried tested and true when blended. I ended up with a cascade fathead II but i do feel it doesn't match the 121 at all and leans to being too dark and less defined. I picked up an 80's seinheiser 421 to pair with the 57 but then my daughter came along and it is still in the box. In a perfect world, I will have my 4x12 tucked away with all 4 mics on it and i would mix and blend to see what was best.

I never had a highend micpre.. Anyone with experince will rave about something Neve, but do I really need to spend that money for doing my stupid internet demo clips?? My cheap pre has a variable impedance which has a big effect on the sound. More impedance takes the harshness out of a crusty brittle sounding mic. It seems to be good enough for what I do.

Even if my stuff makes an instrument sound good, it doesn't make me play any better or write a hit song. I think this stuff is secondary. Studio guys act like they're so prestigious and it makes me laugh.. It's just gear, like who has the fastest car..

Well if you go down the road of mic pre, you also end up at converters lol. A few years back I posted a clip of a stand alone mic pre vs my built in presonus mic pre but both used the presonus converter. There was definitely a difference but I could easily have used either in a mix and been happy. I did a few cascade plus 57 but I honestly preferred E906 blended with 57 for the money shot!

I dug it up here.. https://soundcloud.com/kapopolenton/mics

and the comparison between golden age preamp vs presonus.

https://soundcloud.com/kapopolenton/gap-vs-stock

I've since gone to audient but with EQ and some knowledge, I think anything is usable. There are some god aweful guitar tones on some of the greatest albums ever. Some of those isolated Ritchie Sambora tracks are terrible.