Hairband or Buznut?

[axemeaquestion]

I came across a vid recently touting the Buznut, which mutes out your strings when you're pretending to be Allan Holdsworth.

Anyone using one? I ordered a couple but they haven't come in yet. At $12 for two of them, they're cheaper than a starter kit of V-picks, so I figure you can't really go wrong.

And of course, that frees up my hairband for my pony tail.

 

[glpg80]

if your picking was clean enough to begin with you wouldnt need hairbands and buznuts.

no one in the 80's needed them. alot of more popular artists do great without them.

its a bandaid for the real problem. nothing but a crutch.

 

[Chris6870]

So your saying Greg Howe needs a crutch (hairband) to hide his sloppy playing. Its to dampen open string noise when doing two handed stuff.

 

[rupe]

if your picking was clean enough to begin with you wouldnt need hairbands and buznuts.

no one in the 80's needed them. alot of more popular artists do great without them.

its a bandaid for the real problem. nothing but a crutch.

Guthrie Govan and Greg Howe are clearly lacking in good technique.

 

[Jordon]

if your picking was clean enough to begin with you wouldnt need hairbands and buznuts.

no one in the 80's needed them. alot of more popular artists do great without them.

its a bandaid for the real problem. nothing but a crutch.

Hate to burst your bubble, but recording with a hairband or cloth rag under the strings while tracking a lead was common practice in the 80's.

And, no, I obviously wasn't around for more than 5 years back then, but I've worked with people who were there, and this is coming from first-hand experience.

 

[glpg80]

if your picking was clean enough to begin with you wouldnt need hairbands and buznuts.

no one in the 80's needed them. alot of more popular artists do great without them.

its a bandaid for the real problem. nothing but a crutch.

Guthrie Govan and Greg Howe are clearly lacking in good technique.

michael romeo, yngwie, paul gilbert, jason becker, george lynch, and countless others on this forum dont use them and have no need for them.

its purpose is to quiet open strings you dont want ringing out.

if you dont want open strings to ring out, how about not picking them in the first place?

i can see using them in the studio, but for every day playing. well, as the saying goes. if the shoe fits......

 

[glpg80]

if your picking was clean enough to begin with you wouldnt need hairbands and buznuts.

no one in the 80's needed them. alot of more popular artists do great without them.

its a bandaid for the real problem. nothing but a crutch.

Hate to burst your bubble, but recording with a hairband or cloth rag under the strings while tracking a lead was common practice in the 80's.

And, no, I obviously wasn't around for more than 5 years back then, but I've worked with people who were there, and this is coming from first-hand experience.

yes -TRACKING, meaning studio time.

time is money money is time in those circumstances - it would be stupid not to use them recording solos and such.

but for every day playing? im sure you get my point.

 

[Jordon]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Guthrie floating around out there where he has a hair band behind his nut, possibly to dampen string noise there, or possibly for the "just-in-case" moments.

May not have been Guthrie, though. I know I've seen some bigger-name players do this live. Part of the appeal of a hair band is that you can roll it over the nut quickly.

 

[glpg80]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Guthrie floating around out there where he has a hair band behind his nut, possibly to dampen string noise there, or possibly for the "just-in-case" moments.

May not have been Guthrie, though. I know I've seen some bigger-name players do this live. Part of the appeal of a hair band is that you can roll it over the nut quickly.

+1 i have read about string noise on the opposite side of the nut and using woven tape, hairbands, picks, etc to dampen the string noise.

i never heard anything like them ringing out before though

 

[CaseyCor]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Guthrie floating around out there where he has a hair band behind his nut, possibly to dampen string noise there, or possibly for the "just-in-case" moments.

May not have been Guthrie, though. I know I've seen some bigger-name players do this live. Part of the appeal of a hair band is that you can roll it over the nut quickly.

Guthrie keeps a hairband behind the nut of his guitar most of the times I've seen him play. Helps keeps strings dampened when he's doing his two-handed stuff, ala the tapping parts in "Fives".

 

[axemeaquestion]

glpg, you've gone from saying they're a crutch to admitting it's wise to use them in the studio in the span of a few posts.

They're simply a tool, you can use them or not. Good players obviously use them as we all know open strings can made unwanted noise no matter how good your picking and muting technique is.

I am stating that the Buznut will supplant the hairband as the Next Big Thing in guitar technology.

 

[Jordon]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Guthrie floating around out there where he has a hair band behind his nut, possibly to dampen string noise there, or possibly for the "just-in-case" moments.

May not have been Guthrie, though. I know I've seen some bigger-name players do this live. Part of the appeal of a hair band is that you can roll it over the nut quickly.

+1 i have read about string noise on the opposite side of the nut and using woven tape, hairbands, picks, etc to dampen the string noise.

i never heard anything like them ringing out before though

I notice it on every guitar and bass I come across. I'm usually gaff-taping the strings behind the nut and between the stop-tail and bridge on tune-o-matic style guitars. Acoustics I leave alone, part of the character.

You notice it quite a bit with start/stop riffing with high gain, but I can hear it even with the guitar unplugged, and I can't stand it. On bass, it makes rhythmic passages muddy as fuck.

 

[Chris6870]

I have seen Greg Howe have it behind the nut and actually slide it up while playing right before doing some two handed stuff then slide it back down.
See at 1:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0o5Val5pHo

 

[glpg80]

I seem to remember seeing a video of Guthrie floating around out there where he has a hair band behind his nut, possibly to dampen string noise there, or possibly for the "just-in-case" moments.

May not have been Guthrie, though. I know I've seen some bigger-name players do this live. Part of the appeal of a hair band is that you can roll it over the nut quickly.

+1 i have read about string noise on the opposite side of the nut and using woven tape, hairbands, picks, etc to dampen the string noise.

i never heard anything like them ringing out before though

I notice it on every guitar and bass I come across. I'm usually gaff-taping the strings behind the nut and between the stop-tail and bridge on tune-o-matic style guitars. Acoustics I leave alone, part of the character.

You notice it quite a bit with start/stop riffing with high gain, but I can hear it even with the guitar unplugged, and I can't stand it. On bass, it makes rhythmic passages muddy as fuck.

i know that when i do recordings of my floyd guitars, i weave tape between the springs in the rear cavity to prevent ring-out, but ive never in my life heard a ringing on the opposite side of the locking nuts, but i have read about it.

i stick a pick in the strings for safe measure, but i cant say i hear any difference

i must not being using enough gain?

 

[glpg80]

glpg, you've gone from saying they're a crutch to admitting it's wise to use them in the studio in the span of a few posts.

They're simply a tool, you can use them or not. Good players obviously use them as we all know open strings can made unwanted noise no matter how good your picking and muting technique is.

I am stating that the Buznut will supplant the hairband as the Next Big Thing in guitar technology.

would you bet $40+ an hour on your technique? not many could. im saying there is a difference in using them EVERY DAY as a crutch which is a band-aid for the real problem, to only studio time where time is money, and money is time.

there is a difference. you still use your muting techniques and proper finger muting/palm muting practices, but the hairband, tape, clothes, etc are there not to have to do retakes of the solo which like i mentioned - cost money and time.

making mistakes and covering for poor technique are two different things. thats all im saying. quit making it like i have no fucking clue about this

 

[Code001]

i know that when i do recordings of my floyd guitars, i weave tape between the springs in the rear cavity to prevent ring-out, but ive never in my life heard a ringing on the opposite side of the locking nuts, but i have read about it.

i stick a pick in the strings for safe measure, but i cant say i hear any difference

i must not being using enough gain?

I hear it often when doing fast start/stop stuff. That's why I always have foam in the trem spring cavity and at the nut.

 

[rupe]

Hack

(ff to 2:12)

 

[JakeAC5253]

I mean if this guy just spent a little more time working on his chops he wouldn't have to use the string dampeners to keep his guitar quiet.

 

[IHateRap]

glpg, you've gone from saying they're a crutch to admitting it's wise to use them in the studio in the span of a few posts.

They're simply a tool, you can use them or not. Good players obviously use them as we all know open strings can made unwanted noise no matter how good your picking and muting technique is.

I am stating that the Buznut will supplant the hairband as the Next Big Thing in guitar technology.

Is this appropriate?

 

[axemeaquestion]

glpg, hey, man...made you swear....