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First off, hi, name's Chad, from Salt Lake City, play guitar and had to join the site when I saw threads about and multiple people talking about 80's metal without a single asshole calling it gay... I couldn't believe it so I had to come join you guys in your not assholeness!

So after introduction, I'm in need of some advice. I've recently started working 2 jobs and have noticed a bit more spending money coming in allowing me to instead of search eBay knowing I wont be able to buy any of this to searching ebay knowing something like that can be mine in a very short time, and after my current guitar build I'll need to upgrade my rig.

I play through a Marshall AVT150 halfstack with MXR disto+ in front and a CryBaby for solo boost. Now, I get decent tones for what I'm doing most of the time (But I get so finnicky with it, it takes about a week for the EQ to sound wrong and have me tweak until it sounds a little better) but I need something more.

I'm looking to start a rack with MIDI almost everything but don't know where to start. My big thing is I want my solos to have the mid and slight gain boost plus adding some chorus and delay, and that's a bit of tap dancing on and off if I buy stompboxes for that sound, so I'm looking for MIDI effects that can turn on and off multiple effects at a time.

The secondary bit of rig I'd like to change is my Marshall. Now, I've been thinking of eventually upgrading to like a DSL (I've also had my eyes on the Krank Chadwick, which may or may not be my full first name) but I also would like to have tonal variety at my feet (Have like a George Lynch ultra high gain sorta sound but also a typical Marshall crunch for songs that may not sound right coming from that tone) which has me sorta leaning towards some MIDI preamps like ADA MP-1 that can get me from Dream Warriors to Sweet Child for gigs... Ya know?

TL;DR give me some good MIDI controllable effect and preamp units that I can program channels with very different settings with (Example, I can go from clean and reverby Dream Warriors intro, to George Lynch distortion chorus to boosted leads with more chorus and delay without stepping on a billion pedals during the song) for the somewhat cheap budget

Sorry about the long introduction and question, thanks and pleasure to meet you all in advance!
 
Welcome aboard :cheers:

GCX is a good place to start with lower end relays for switching effects. RJM offers higher end effects switching gear via MIDI for pedals and/or rack gear but you will notice a large price difference.

MIDI pedal wise everyone has their preferences but i prefer the GCX MIDI pedal for price vs what you get.

Use the search feature here on the forum to find out more information on either of these units if you would like. This is a subject that rig-talk has tons of users of each and different viewpoints of how to complete your rack. There are even rack build following threads to show you what you need to know to do it right yourself.
 
Welcome! This is a good place to get good opinions on gear...but beware-once you start, it's hard to stop :D If you're looking for rack mounted stuff the only one I've had experience with is the ADA. There's one for sale in the classifieds I think for 250 shipped. Mine came with the footpedal, not sure if the one for sale has it as well. But you can pick up a midi board that will work with it for 100 or so. You could get a Quadraverb GT for less than 100 used for additional effects, and then you would need a power amp to run it all through. Lots of different choices for those but I would recommend a used EL34 based power amp. Peaveys are probably the cheapest, used I think you can get them for 300 or so..Guitar Center.com is a good source if you can't find anything here..with all that you have about 800 into a new rig...then after that you start hearing clips of AWESOME amps from guys here and start thinking about modded Marshalls, Wizards, Camerons, Soldanos, Fortin/Gowers, Friedmans...that's when the GAS really starts to hurt..sorry I digressed..anyway welcome and hopefully some other guys will chime in with more rack experience than I.. :rock:
 
Also RJM makes a device that turns a normal 1/4" jack style footswitch amplifier into a MIDI controlled device. This means you dont need to get a preamp poweramp setup just to go MIDI - you can also have them make you custom medusa cables for your amplifier if they do not offer it.
 
glpg80":1k20zgoh said:
GCX is a good place to start with lower end relays for switching effects. RJM offers higher end effects switching gear via MIDI for pedals and/or rack gear but you will notice a large price difference.
I had not thought about a unit that switches stompboxes on and off before... Jesus, the technology we have these days...

Racerxrated":1k20zgoh said:
Welcome! This is a good place to get good opinions on gear...but beware-once you start, it's hard to stop :D If you're looking for rack mounted stuff the only one I've had experience with is the ADA. There's one for sale in the classifieds I think for 250 shipped. Mine came with the footpedal, not sure if the one for sale has it as well. But you can pick up a midi board that will work with it for 100 or so. You could get a Quadraverb GT for less than 100 used for additional effects, and then you would need a power amp to run it all through. Lots of different choices for those but I would recommend a used EL34 based power amp. Peaveys are probably the cheapest, used I think you can get them for 300 or so..Guitar Center.com is a good source if you can't find anything here..with all that you have about 800 into a new rig...then after that you start hearing clips of AWESOME amps from guys here and start thinking about modded Marshalls, Wizards, Camerons, Soldanos, Fortin/Gowers, Friedmans...that's when the GAS really starts to hurt..sorry I digressed..anyway welcome and hopefully some other guys will chime in with more rack experience than I.. :rock:

The ADA actually comes up a lot when I creep on other boards, especially when talking about the stuff I play, wish I knew someone around the Beehive state that had one I could try out. And I have not heard of Quadraverb, I had my eye on G-Major but I might try a Quad as a placeholder with everything else I need
 
You should maybe look at the AxeFX & MFC101.

If you aren't too too fussed about your sound not being an all-tube platform, they're pretty amazing. I didn't personally like the AxeFX i'll be honest, but they really do sound superb and have all the studio quality effects and amps you could ever want.
 
JimmyBlind":73gqllfl said:
You should maybe look at the AxeFX & MFC101.

If you aren't too too fussed about your sound not being an all-tube platform, they're pretty amazing. I didn't personally like the AxeFX i'll be honest, but they really do sound superb and have all the studio quality effects and amps you could ever want.
THAT'S A THREAD STOPPER RIGHT THERE FOLKS!! :lol: :LOL:

Hey ChadVanHalen, welcome aboard... Mind your wallet and savings, they'll lose serious weight taking the advice of most cats off tis board. But regardless - stick around, RT rocks, have a great day!!

Mo :rock:
 
JimmyBlind":1rb4q7j3 said:
You should maybe look at the AxeFX & MFC101.

If you aren't too too fussed about your sound not being an all-tube platform, they're pretty amazing. I didn't personally like the AxeFX i'll be honest, but they really do sound superb and have all the studio quality effects and amps you could ever want.
Yeah this....only issue is what you have to spend. I had an eleven rack that I was gonna use to record with but that project didn't go anywhere. They're cheaper than the Axe and sound good as well..depending on who you talk to the Axe is #1 and the Eleven is #2..but you have to run a powered monitor of some type with them to get the best results. I tried the eleven through the FX return of a Marshall JMD I used to have and then through V-30s and it didn't sound very good..the Eleven rack can be had for 3-400, + midi footpedal for 100 and your choice of powered monitor..a QSC K10 is like 500 or so..Axe FX used are twice or 3X the price of the Eleven Rack and that's for the original Axe..Ultras or II are even more. Ultimately though, I sold all the preamps/modeler/rack stuff and just stick to tube amps and a few pedals lol..some of that stuff sounds really good but when you A/B it with the real thing it just doesn't quite get there at least for me... :aww:
 
Read this with AXL ROSE/welcome to jungle in mind lol

"You know where you are?"... "You is on Rig-talk, baby".... "You is gonna GAS............."!!!!!!!
:lol: :LOL:

If you got the money, we got your dissease!
and that dissease is Gear Aquirement Syndrome
:D
 
glpg80":dn1nrhdp said:
Also RJM makes a device that turns a normal 1/4" jack style footswitch amplifier into a MIDI controlled device. This means you dont need to get a preamp poweramp setup just to go MIDI - you can also have them make you custom medusa cables for your amplifier if they do not offer it.

I didn't notice this post... I buy a higher end amp (DSL, 5150, Chadwick or whatever) get this and have the MIDI FX unit in the rack... Anyone know of a way to EQ boost off this? Would an FX unit in the loop be able to add mids and gain/volume alongside the delay and chorus or would I need to somehow connect a graphic EQ to turn on alongside the solo channel?

brickford":dn1nrhdp said:
Read this with AXL ROSE/welcome to jungle in mind lol

"You know where you are?"... "You is on Rig-talk, baby".... "You is gonna GAS............."!!!!!!!
:lol: :LOL:

If you got the money, we got your dissease!
and that dissease is Gear Aquirement Syndrome
:D

Trust me, I've had GAS from sitting at work and day dreaming over rigs... The only trouble is now I've actually got the funds coming in to where I need to stop day dreaming and think of what I need to budget it right!
 
If you're looking into rack gear there are a ton of options, and the best way to pare them down is by money.

On the cheap: ADA, Rocktron
Midlevel: GSP1101, 11rack
Upper end: AxeFX, Kemper

What I did for my mini rack is a GSP1101 matched to a Peavey Classic 50 power amp. That got me a really versatile, and cost conscious, preamp with solid, dependable tube power.

Of course a new head would be cool too. The DSL is the poor man's answer to good Marshall tones. But you can do alot with smaller gear these days as well.

I think the best way to go about a search is to 1) figure out your goal and 2) figure out your budget.
 
Welcome to the RT nation from a fellow Ute dude. I'm out in Sandy. This place is gonna make you jones like nothing you've ever seen before, I swear.

Good board and REALLY nice people here, man. Hopefully some more rack guys chime in; I have zero experience but I just wanted to say hey; there's only like two of us on this board besides you. Hold onto your wallet, sir.
 
Steinmetzify":3dlndckn said:
Welcome to the RT nation from a fellow Ute dude. I'm out in Sandy. This place is gonna make you jones like nothing you've ever seen before, I swear.

Good board and REALLY nice people here, man. Hopefully some more rack guys chime in; I have zero experience but I just wanted to say hey; there's only like two of us on this board besides you. Hold onto your wallet, sir.

I actually live in Draper, I work at the Sandy Barnes and Noble and State and 102nd by South Towne lol

Glad I'm not alone
 
Welcome aboard. Love the avatar of Mick and the mirror Tele! :thumbsup:

Consider a Mesa Triaxis preamp, Mesa 2:Ninety or 2:Fifty power amp, a half decent FX unit (eg, Rocktron Expression/Intellifex, TC G Major, etc) and a 1U rack power supply. That rig will do exactly what you want in 5 rack spaces, all while delivering some killer tones and effects. Can be had reasonably cheap on the used market as well.

Good luck!
 
rlord1974":3qecld3j said:
Welcome aboard. Love the avatar of Mick and the mirror Tele! :thumbsup:

Consider a Mesa Triaxis preamp, Mesa 2:Ninety or 2:Fifty power amp, a half decent FX unit (eg, Rocktron Expression/Intellifex, TC G Major, etc) and a 1U rack power supply. That rig will do exactly what you want in 5 rack spaces, all while delivering some killer tones and effects. Can be had reasonably cheap on the used market as well.

Good luck!

He'll need all the luck in the world trying to operate a Triaxis without a Phd in Physics!
 
JimmyBlind":h13sjw3a said:
He'll need all the luck in the world trying to operate a Triaxis without a Phd in Physics!

Who says I don't...









I don't :no:
 
So I really like the RJM amp gizmo, for those who have experience with them, do you know if you can program amp EQ with it or will I have to add another MIDI device to turn on a graphic EQ alongside my FX unit channel to get the EQ/gain boost?
 
ChadVanHalen":1k1riwh9 said:
Steinmetzify":1k1riwh9 said:
Welcome to the RT nation from a fellow Ute dude. I'm out in Sandy. This place is gonna make you jones like nothing you've ever seen before, I swear.

Good board and REALLY nice people here, man. Hopefully some more rack guys chime in; I have zero experience but I just wanted to say hey; there's only like two of us on this board besides you. Hold onto your wallet, sir.

I actually live in Draper, I work at the Sandy Barnes and Noble and State and 102nd by South Towne lol

Glad I'm not alone

Nice......I go in there all the time....you see a dude with tats and a 2 ft long bright red goatee go in there stop me and say hey.....I'm not as scary as I've been told I look. :rock:
 
ChadVanHalen":2escteg1 said:
So I really like the RJM amp gizmo, for those who have experience with them, do you know if you can program amp EQ with it or will I have to add another MIDI device to turn on a graphic EQ alongside my FX unit channel to get the EQ/gain boost?

Forget THAT nonsense. You don't need a separate unit for your EQ and gain boost. That's why I suggested a Triaxis, but ANY midi-capable preamp with patches/presets will do what you want: an ADA MP-1, Marshall JMP-1, Rocktron Piranha, Mesa Triaxis, etc. You would just program a patch/preset for your lead tone that is close in EQ to your rhythm sound, but would have some boosted mids and a higher gain level. DONE.

Keep it simple, because simple IS better - especially if this will be your live rig.
 
rlord1974":1om6x65i said:
Forget THAT nonsense. You don't need a separate unit for your EQ and gain boost. That's why I suggested a Triaxis, but ANY midi-capable preamp with patches/presets will do what you want: an ADA MP-1, Marshall JMP-1, Rocktron Piranha, Mesa Triaxis, etc. You would just program a patch/preset for your lead tone that is close in EQ to your rhythm sound, but would have some boosted mids and a higher gain level. DONE.

Keep it simple, because simple IS better - especially if this will be your live rig.

If he likes the RJM amp gizmo then why not let him decide whichever setup is optimal for what he needs?

ChadVanHalen":1om6x65i said:
So I really like the RJM amp gizmo, for those who have experience with them, do you know if you can program amp EQ with it or will I have to add another MIDI device to turn on a graphic EQ alongside my FX unit channel to get the EQ/gain boost?

Yes you can use a product offered by RJM that is half amp gizmo and half effects gizmo in one unit to do what you need with an EQ and/or boost. It will let you switch in and out effects via midi and also switch amplifier channels with the other side via MIDI - all in one unit. You can switch in and out stereo effects or mono effects as well - just order whichever unit you need.
 
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