help! with setting the key for each song

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hello i am setting up my singers vocal processor up i am trying to figure out what key some of the songs are in for the harmonys i play in a ozzy tribute band and all the songs that are standard tunning are tuned flat and all the songs that are flat we tune a whole step down to D
like for diary of a madman i think the key is Am and we play that sone whole step down so would it be Gm then any help would be great thanks
 
you are getting your notes and modes confused. a note is either flat or sharp, a mode is minor or major to a relative key. its a common mistake.

Am is a flat 3rd 5th and 7th to the tonai or root key, so in this example it would be the key of C major.

the only one you have to watch out for is anything going from a C to a B would be a whole step note wise but only shifts half a step in the fretboard (ie a B# is a C, not a Cb) now whether you are relative minor or major from that particular key just make the 3rd 5th and 7th notes of the major of that root note and you are now in relative minor....if of course aeolean (sp?) is the minor mode you are trying to go for which depends on the song.

alot of times when i did cover songs in different keys starting out, i almost always had a guitar in front of me and went through the song in chunks - chorus, verses, interludes, intro's, etc. to find the keys. normally it is not that hard, since a song will repeat most of it all the way through at least once or twice. if you are comfortable with theory then you can do it all in your head but it can get confusing if you do not know how the fretboard works - so dont try to make it harder than it really is - use whichever method you need :)

PS. it might also help you to go read the "explain modes to me" post in the music theory and technique section of the forum - alot of information that pertains to this post will apply here to what you are trying to do and possibly make it alot easier.
 
Wow thanks for info I think I have it all wrong gets confusing to me when tunings are different for example the song I don't know I thought its in the key of A I'm looking at the tab says key of A so we play that song flat so the key isn't A flat now
 
the crush 36":3hww8k98 said:
Wow thanks for info I think I have it all wrong gets confusing to me when tunings are different for example the song I don't know I thought its in the key of A I'm looking at the tab says key of A so we play that song flat so the key isn't A flat now

Ab would mean just shift all of the notes on the tablature half a step, watching out for Fb which is E and not E#, and B# which is not Cb but C. the rest of it is all logical.
 
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