HNAD x2!!

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Went a little nuts...

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The whole works...the "Wailing Wall"... ;)

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Very happy - tone is AWESOME, and as cool as they are, they are each different from eachother in just the right ways...

The Jet City is a lot cooler than I expected it to be, and the Chupa RAWKS!! The only question I have is this: my Lexicon MX200 works great in the loop of the JC, but when I run it in the loop of the Chupa, the output barely registers, and the volume is decreased about 75%. I'm a loop idiot, so can someone explain why that is, and what I can do to address without modding the amp?
 
Congrats man! I recently got a little carried away, myself :D

2xNGD for me :lol: :LOL:
 
:rock: :rock: Awesome! how is that line 6 head? worth 400$ as a fooling around amp?
 
roadifier":1jn2cgno said:
:rock: :rock: Awesome! how is that line 6 head? worth 400$ as a fooling around amp?

If you can find a SV Mk II for $400, JUMP ON IT. Soooooo much better than the first one. It's better than a "folling around" amp now. They really got their act together on this version.
 
Chris O":1uoeeakj said:
The only question I have is this: my Lexicon MX200 works great in the loop of the JC, but when I run it in the loop of the Chupa, the output barely registers, and the volume is decreased about 75%. I'm a loop idiot, so can someone explain why that is, and what I can do to address without modding the amp?

Different loops have different designs and levels, unfortunately there is no common standard like in paper formats or sth.

So it's important to be able to manage both, send and return levels. Unfortunately, on the MX200, great unit as it is, you can only regulate the INPUT level. This might be no issue in studio applications, where Mixers have send and return levels, but most guitar amps don't. Only exception I'm aware of is Rivera. Also the MX200 can require a lot of input before it gets in the zone so you get it close to 0dB and use its potential properly.

An inline mixer could help. One product I know and own is the GLAB ALA-1. Gives you basically a send and return level, both with +/- 12dB, no noise, and a special cable so you only need one cable from amp to board for the loop.
 
hunter":2n5vwrz1 said:
Chris O":2n5vwrz1 said:
The only question I have is this: my Lexicon MX200 works great in the loop of the JC, but when I run it in the loop of the Chupa, the output barely registers, and the volume is decreased about 75%. I'm a loop idiot, so can someone explain why that is, and what I can do to address without modding the amp?

Different loops have different designs and levels, unfortunately there is no common standard like in paper formats or sth.

So it's important to be able to manage both, send and return levels. Unfortunately, on the MX200, great unit as it is, you can only regulate the INPUT level. This might be no issue in studio applications, where Mixers have send and return levels, but most guitar amps don't. Only exception I'm aware of is Rivera. Also the MX200 can require a lot of input before it gets in the zone so you get it close to 0dB and use its potential properly.

An inline mixer could help. One product I know and own is the GLAB ALA-1. Gives you basically a send and return level, both with +/- 12dB, no noise, and a special cable so you only need one cable from amp to board for the loop.

Basically, it seems I need to boost the signal from the amp's SEND to the MX200. Do you think something like a Ceriatone Klein-ulator do the trick?

http://www.ceriatone.com/productSubPage ... ulator.htm

OR...would a TC Electronic G-Sharp be a better choice? Not sure if that's just more of the same, but I think it's designed more around guitars, so maybe a better idea?
 
The loop in the Chupa is just an insert loop and yeah you will need a buffer to help with the signal strength. I've never used that Klein-ulator but I think that would probably help. There are also other things you can use like a tube buffered unit.

Brian
 
Hey man, happy new amp day! I'm thrilled to see that others are taking the same interest in the Jet City as I am!

I'm about to pull the trigger and buy one, but being a student with very little income, large financial investments are nerve wracking for me!

Any pics/clips/ in depth detail about the amp would be very much apreciated, if you don't have the time then don't worry about it either but I'm really excited about owning one of these.

It's between this and the HDM, but the HDM is £200 more. :S
 
briango2000":3w25kyou said:
The loop in the Chupa is just an insert loop and yeah you will need a buffer to help with the signal strength. I've never used that Klein-ulator but I think that would probably help. There are also other things you can use like a tube buffered unit.

Brian

Intriguing...

Any suggestions on tube buffered units? Such a thing as a tube powered "clean boost"?
 
Tawlks":p1kd9mf8 said:
Hey man, happy new amp day! I'm thrilled to see that others are taking the same interest in the Jet City as I am!

I'm about to pull the trigger and buy one, but being a student with very little income, large financial investments are nerve wracking for me!

Any pics/clips/ in depth detail about the amp would be very much apreciated, if you don't have the time then don't worry about it either but I'm really excited about owning one of these.

It's between this and the HDM, but the HDM is £200 more. :S

I don't really record anything, cuz my playing blows and I'm really self conscious, but PM me with any questions you come up with, and I'll try to answer them. The clips you see online are pretty accurate, although I was surprised that the tone was certainly a bit more complex than represented by these clips...in a good way.

I wish the Chupa had the same effects loop...the JC's is great.

For the money, I'm not sure you will find better bang for the buck. It's very solid, and the quality really seems to be there. I wouldn't expect anything less from something Mr. Soldano puts his name on. It won't replace a Hot Rod or SLO, but it will get you into that territory affordably.
 
Chris O":3t90fj2t said:
roadifier":3t90fj2t said:
:rock: :rock: Awesome! how is that line 6 head? worth 400$ as a fooling around amp?

If you can find a SV Mk II for $400, JUMP ON IT. Soooooo much better than the first one. It's better than a "folling around" amp now. They really got their act together on this version.

I meant like an amp to bring to practice an small gigs for quick set up. Just amp cab and the board. I will definitely try and get one!
 
Snagged a "Klein-Ulator" off eBay today. I hope it works, although I can't say I missed the effects unit this evening. Here's a cut & paste commentary I posted on JCF tonight...

In a nutshell, it's a 3-mode amp:
1960's = Plexi, but with more gain available, and more EQ flexibility. LOUD.
1980's = Hot-rodded Plexi, lots of tonal options, gain for days. 80's hair stuff, right up to AIC type grind. Mid strong & crunchy
Modern = Hot rodded JCM800, again, lots of tonal options. High gain in the spirit of the JVM Orange OD, but with more character.

50 watts, EL-34 JJ's, 3 Chinese preamp tubes (didn't pull them), series loop w/no buffer - I'll get to that later...

SINGLE channel - NO switching. Deal breaker for some here. Gotta use the guitars volume control to clean it up, and it can be done.

Strong-but-musical mids in all modes, and while you can tame them, they don't go away. Keep that in mind when choosing a cab. I use a T75 loaded Marshall, which has been, and always will be my favorite cab/speaker combo. I would shy away from something with strong mids like V30's. Maybe a Greenback loaded cab some day? We'll see...I'm about out of space!

Each mode of this amp has a distinct character, and lives up to the billing. It can be bluesy and tame, to downright NASTY. Hit a big power chord, and it sustains for days. They say it can get to "metal", but not on the same playing field as something like a 5150, Uber, or Recto. The resonance and presence controls really add a lot to it as well - use with that in mind - there is such a thing as "too much". The manual has suggested settings to get you started, and they are VERY helpful. You'd think this amp would be very intuitive to use, but it's so packed with options, that if you don't know what they intend it to do, you can fumble around quite a bit.

My only gripe -- the loop. It is a series loop, but it is passive, and that has caused me some issues. When I have my effects unit in the loop, the level coming off the SEND is not hot enough to drive the effects unit. That in turn lowers the volume coming back into the RETURN significantly - like to the extent that I have the master volume turned up to about 3:00, and it's still comfortable bedroom volume levels. It should be cracking plaster!! What I ended up doing is buying a solid state effects loop buffer off eBay today - a "Klein-Ulator", which will be able to boost the signal coming from the SEND to the input of the effects unit, and then able to attenuate the RETURN level as well. I hope it works.

All in all, it's the Marshall I always wanted but could never afford. The build quality is impeccable, and I have not heard of any issues with this amp from any owners. It is only available as a complete head from Ceriatone, and comes in 50 or 100 watts. All things being equal, even as a bedroom player, I have been really gravitating toward 100 watters, as I feel they just have more to add to the tone. They have a great rep here at Rig Talk, and held their own (IMO) in the "LA Mod Squad 2010" amp shoot-out on Youtube (check it out - James Lugo's video), and the Chupa went head to head with some HEAVY HITTERS. I didn't think it gave up a thing.

Great amp!
 

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