How many of you use one delay setting for rythm and lead?

[Kapo_Polenton]

Still toying with the idea of not using my rack in the loop because I essentially just want a bit of delay and don't need to use all the other stuff in there. How many of you use just one setting and leave it for both? This way i can set it and forget it on top of the amp. I just saw the Bonamassa thread and looks like he only has one delay on the floor, maybe he switches it on only for solos..i don't know. Shenker uses only one DD-3 as well. Discuss!

 

[ewill52]

I keep two on my board, both through the loop. DL4 and a DD 7...so it's kind of like having 4 delays! I keep a quick slapback, and "mild" and a "big" delay on the DL4. I use an external tap tempo on the DD7 and mainly use it for delay-on-delay stuff.

More is better right????

 

[EyesOfTheSouth]

I do. But I use delay more for a thickening tool rather than a pure delay. I use a pretty short delay (but not slapback short) with low repeats and turn it down very low in the mix. It's a good way to get more perceived saturation from medium gain amps.

 

[Ventura]

No.

But the delay I do use is extremely subtle in both instances.

 

[tripstan]

I use one with a tap tempo and a DD-6 that it is set wetter.

 

[Zachman]

Still toying with the idea of not using my rack in the loop because I essentially just want a bit of delay and don't need to use all the other stuff in there. How many of you use just one setting and leave it for both? This way i can set it and forget it on top of the amp. I just saw the Bonamassa thread and looks like he only has one delay on the floor, maybe he switches it on only for solos..i don't know. Shenker uses only one DD-3 as well. Discuss!

Personally-- I, rather have more and not need it, than to need it, and not have it. But-- I'm certifiable.

Seriously, when I was playing in a band doing the club circuit-- 5/6 shows per week, -- I had a Rocktron Intellifex (Still have it), in the loop of a Boogie MKIII combo, and mostly set it and left it. worst case scenario-- you want another setting-- SO, just program it and store it next to your set it and forget it preset, and in one click of a knob turn, and a press of the recall button, you're back. As to only having one delay pedal-- I've never found adjusting it as needed, to be a problem.

How's this:

 

[Chubtone]

One delay pedal, one setting for me.

 

[Aristocat]

I do. But I use delay more for a thickening tool rather than a pure delay. I use a pretty short delay (but not slapback short) with low repeats and turn it down very low in the mix. It's a good way to get more perceived saturation from medium gain amps.

Exactly how I use mine. I've always liked how with a low mix/feedback (and a good Analog emulator) a faux reverb can be coaxed out.

It's nice to use on dirty amps w/o effect's loops. That way I can get a delay/reverb thing happening without too much color.

 

[glassjaw7]

I do this about 70% of the time. Carbon Copy or El Cap in the loop set to short delays as a "thickener". But sometimes I go all crazy and run those two pedals with a DL4 all set to different repeat times and things get gnarly!

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Interesting.. so you guys with double delays tap dance between them? In most cases you'd have to double tap unless you have a A/B pedal.

 

[Zachman]

Interesting.. so you guys with double delays tap dance between them? In most cases you'd have to double tap unless you have a A/B pedal.

Correct! Those with a signal series chain-- who add more than one pedal and face needing to turn off/on pedals in various combinations, face the potential tap dance. Unless they run their pedals into a loop switching system- that allows pre-programmed combinations of loops on/off-- to be stored and recalled, multiple steps on/off, are required to switch.

 

[TelosHedge]

when i was running all analog i would just use one carbon copy set one way. in most cases though i like to keep my delays off for rhythm playing and on for some lead stuff, but it depends on the moment.

now i'm crossing back over to digital, and who knows what i'll dream up and end up using!

 

[Shark Diver]

How's this:

Must have been Hell for you...


I went back to a rack fx because I found there was just stuff I missed by being a minimalist.

 

[Zachman]

How's this:

Must have been Hell for you...


I went back to a rack fx because I found there was just stuff I missed by being a minimalist.

When I was a kid, I had a ton of pedals and stuff. I loved it! As I got to my late teens/early 20's-- I discovered rack gear, and was lucky enough to be exposed to some killer stereo rigs via Lab Sound (The Boogie Store). THAT changed everything for me, and established a mark that a minimalist approach just couldn't reach.

 

[Michi]

One delay, one setting for me too. Then again I'm not much of an fx user in general.

 

[TremoJem]

Zachman, that pic of the rack just kills me.

I will take two to go please, oh and a third for a back up.

Seriously, though I love it and wish I had it.

You have everything in there I want.

TC, Eventide, Lexicon etc.

That is an investment in big sound.

Funny thing is, some people might misinterpret this rig and think that 20 effects are running at the same time, when that is not the case.

Some of the components in there are merely support, power conditioner, tuner etc.

It reminds me of people who see 24 channel mixing boards and think...wow, look at all the knobs. It can appear overwhelming and unmanageable, but really it is very simple in the approach to getting a really good sound.

I think the hardest part for me is retaining the original signal and not losing that relationship with the amp and guitar, or the "tone". I love that relationship and just want to add the great colors those effects can bring to the tone.

Oh well enough ass kissing...love the rack, great collection of tone tools.

 

[rlord1974]

One delay on the floor with tap tempo. That's all that's needed.

 

[Zachman]

Zachman, that pic of the rack just kills me.

I will take two to go please, oh and a third for a back up.

Seriously, though I love it and wish I had it.

You have everything in there I want.

TC, Eventide, Lexicon etc.

That is an investment in big sound.

Funny thing is, some people might misinterpret this rig and think that 20 effects are running at the same time, when that is not the case.

Some of the components in there are merely support, power conditioner, tuner etc.

It reminds me of people who see 24 channel mixing boards and think...wow, look at all the knobs. It can appear overwhelming and unmanageable, but really it is very simple in the approach to getting a really good sound.

I think the hardest part for me is retaining the original signal and not losing that relationship with the amp and guitar, or the "tone". I love that relationship and just want to add the great colors those effects can bring to the tone.

Oh well enough ass kissing...love the rack, great collection of tone tools.

Thanks TremoJem


You're right! I have 6 pedals (7 counting the wah) before the amps, and 6 processors-- Post amps, a mixer, switching system, and an Amp selector. I run wd/d/wd most of the time, and love the overkill approach. Now that I think about it, I think I probably could run pretty close to 20 things at the same time, w/ the virtual rack settings in the Eventide, plus everything else. Man this is fun.

 

[TremoJem]

Zachman, it is kinda like being 10 years old and going to Disney.

Very overwhelming, but worth it. I bet you have accumulated thousands of hours of programming and tone questing.

Almost better than sex...haaaaaaaa. NOT, but close.

Best to you and your great rig.

 

[Zachman]

Zachman, it is kinda like being 10 years old and going to Disney.

Very overwhelming, but worth it. I bet you have accumulated thousands of hours of programming and tone questing.

Almost better than sex...haaaaaaaa. NOT, but close.

Best to you and your great rig.

Thank you It is like Funland, only it's 'Toneland'. Ya, I've been using this stuff since around '86, and have been fortunate enough to have been exposed to a lot of really nice gear, by some really knowledgeable and talented guys-- who took the time to explain it.