-I think I need a new vibrator-

[sg guy]

-I got a new guitar, Gibson All American, it has a Fender style vibrator, dive only, seems ok, I guess, does go out of tune with use, the guitar doesn't have a locking nut, but it does have locking tuner's I've been avoiding all vibrator's like the wet spot for 20+ year's,.. so my knowledge on the subject is zero. I'm wondering if a modern Floyd Rose vibrator would be an upgrade for better tunning stability and just all around improvement, would it drop right in? I have pics of the vibrator, but its too big for rig talk, fits right in over at the Marshall forum!!!

-what say yee wanker's!!

 

[Monkey Man]

Vibrators, tuna, locking nuts (ouch!), wet spot, dropping right in, vibrator pics, too big for Rig Talk, fits in?

You wrote for Penthouse, right?

 

[moltenmetalburn]

https://www.lelo.com

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[keennay]

Yeah... I should no longer open links from Rig-Talk while at work.

 

[sg guy]

Vibrators, tuna, locking nuts (ouch!), wet spot, dropping right in, vibrator pics, too big for Rig Talk, fits in?

You wrote for Penthouse, right?

-forget what her name is, "they call me Madame"?

 

[sg guy]

-but seriously folks, is a new, real, FR an upgrade it the tuning department?

 

[Mailman1971]

From a Fender bridge? Hell yes its an upgrade! (My opinion only)
I been a big Floyd Fan since the 80's. Once you learn how to set em up and deal with them. They are the best.

 

[sg guy]

From a Fender bridge? Hell yes its an upgrade! (My opinion only)
I been a big Floyd Fan since the 80's. Once you learn how to set em up and deal with them. They are the best.

-thanks man,

-I plan on using drop C# tuning-(gonna be my Tony Iommi axe)-do I need different spring's or anything? are there certain models of FR I should be looking for? or are they all the same?

 

[Mailman1971]

From a Fender bridge? Hell yes its an upgrade! (My opinion only)
I been a big Floyd Fan since the 80's. Once you learn how to set em up and deal with them. They are the best.

-thanks man,

-I plan on using drop C# tuning-(gonna be my Tony Iommi axe)-do I need different spring's or anything? are there certain models of FR I should be looking for? or are they all the same?

The older Schaller Made in Germany ones are the best to me. If your gonna drop that low I would use more then 3 of the trem claw springs for tension or the bridge will sag. At least 4.
Does your guitar need to be routed then for it? Or the posts going to line up?

 

[sg guy]

-the guitar-(Gibson All American)-has the Fender style factory tremolo in it, but it's a dive only unit, but it has 4 spring's & feels stiff, I wish I could post some pic's,

 

[glassjaw7]

From a Fender bridge? Hell yes its an upgrade! (My opinion only)
I been a big Floyd Fan since the 80's. Once you learn how to set em up and deal with them. They are the best.

No joke right here, this guy knows his vibrators!

 

[Mailman1971]

From a Fender bridge? Hell yes its an upgrade! (My opinion only)
I been a big Floyd Fan since the 80's. Once you learn how to set em up and deal with them. They are the best.

No joke right here, this guy knows his vibrators!

I should.....
Used them several times on you thru the years with a 5 star rating.

 

[Smac77]

Damn, i knew this wasn't going to be about what i was hoping it would be

 

[cardinal]

-but seriously folks, is a new, real, FR an upgrade it the tuning department?

The only way to keep a non-locking Trem in tune is 1) to float it so that you also can pull up or 2) physically grab some of the strings and pull them after a dive. For some reason the G and B strings shift on the saddle during a big dive and get stuck and hence are out of tune when you come out of the dive. You have to pull the the strings up to get them to settle back into the right spot.

I can keep a Fender trem reasonably in tune after heavy use by always doing a full pull-up after any big dive (it usually just mute the strings and do it quick).

But yes: IMHO the Floyd Rose is just the best trem there is. It stays in tune. Period. It may be tricky to just add to your guitar. The unit is thick and may have the strings too high off the fretboard. You'll need to check before you start drilling for the posts, etc.

 

[sg guy]

-but seriously folks, is a new, real, FR an upgrade it the tuning department?

The only way to keep a non-locking Trem in tune is 1) to float it so that you also can pull up or 2) physically grab some of the strings and pull them after a dive. For some reason the G and B strings shift on the saddle during a big dive and get stuck and hence are out of tune when you come out of the dive. You have to pull the the strings up to get them to settle back into the right spot.

I can keep a Fender trem reasonably in tune after heavy use by always doing a full pull-up after any big dive (it usually just mute the strings and do it quick).

But yes: IMHO the Floyd Rose is just the best trem there is. It stays in tune. Period. It may be tricky to just add to your guitar. The unit is thick and may have the strings too high off the fretboard. You'll need to check before you start drilling for the posts, etc.

-thanx for your input cardinal,

-I've been doing a little home work and FR has a direct replacement for a Fender style tremolo, but its like mine, "dive only"... its been 20+ years since I owned a strat, but I don't remember it being " dive only". Is this the case? or do most Fender tremolo's go up as well?

 

[sg guy]

-yeah the G-String is always the problem child in tuning regardless of tail piece,... Why isn't there a rolling saddle on FR or Fender tremolo's?

 

[Monkey Man]

Vibrators, tuna, locking nuts (ouch!), wet spot, dropping right in, vibrator pics, too big for Rig Talk, fits in?

You wrote for Penthouse, right?

-forget what her name is, "they call me Madame"?

LOL

Damn, i knew this wasn't going to be about what i was hoping it would be

Oh, but it is, Smac! Knock yourself out, bud:

... G-String...

...this guy knows his vibrators!

... feels stiff... pic's

Oh... I thought he said pricks. My bad. Still, the adjective's in there. In there? Oh no...

 

[cardinal]

-but seriously folks, is a new, real, FR an upgrade it the tuning department?

The only way to keep a non-locking Trem in tune is 1) to float it so that you also can pull up or 2) physically grab some of the strings and pull them after a dive. For some reason the G and B strings shift on the saddle during a big dive and get stuck and hence are out of tune when you come out of the dive. You have to pull the the strings up to get them to settle back into the right spot.

I can keep a Fender trem reasonably in tune after heavy use by always doing a full pull-up after any big dive (it usually just mute the strings and do it quick).

But yes: IMHO the Floyd Rose is just the best trem there is. It stays in tune. Period. It may be tricky to just add to your guitar. The unit is thick and may have the strings too high off the fretboard. You'll need to check before you start drilling for the posts, etc.

-thanx for your input cardinal,

-I've been doing a little home work and FR has a direct replacement for a Fender style tremolo, but its like mine, "dive only"... its been 20+ years since I owned a strat, but I don't remember it being " dive only". Is this the case? or do most Fender tremolo's go up as well?

I'm not sure your trem is truly dive only. It sounds like you just have it "decked" (when the strings are in tune, you have the trem springs so tight that they pull the bridge flush to the body). What you need to do: loosen the trem claw so that when the strings are in tune, the bridge is floating off the body at an angle. On a Strat, you'd typically set it so that you can pull up about a step on the G string.

It's ok that the trem isn't level with the body. That's only important for two-post trems. I don't think yours is like that, but a close up pic would help. Does the front edge of then trem actually maintain contact with the body when you dive? I assume it does.

 

[sg guy]

-but seriously folks, is a new, real, FR an upgrade it the tuning department?

The only way to keep a non-locking Trem in tune is 1) to float it so that you also can pull up or 2) physically grab some of the strings and pull them after a dive. For some reason the G and B strings shift on the saddle during a big dive and get stuck and hence are out of tune when you come out of the dive. You have to pull the the strings up to get them to settle back into the right spot.

I can keep a Fender trem reasonably in tune after heavy use by always doing a full pull-up after any big dive (it usually just mute the strings and do it quick).

But yes: IMHO the Floyd Rose is just the best trem there is. It stays in tune. Period. It may be tricky to just add to your guitar. The unit is thick and may have the strings too high off the fretboard. You'll need to check before you start drilling for the posts, etc.

-thanx for your input cardinal,

-I've been doing a little home work and FR has a direct replacement for a Fender style tremolo, but its like mine, "dive only"... its been 20+ years since I owned a strat, but I don't remember it being " dive only". Is this the case? or do most Fender tremolo's go up as well?

I'm not sure your trem is truly dive only. It sounds like you just have it "decked" (when the strings are in tune, you have the trem springs so tight that they pull the bridge flush to the body). What you need to do: loosen the trem claw so that when the strings are in tune, the bridge is floating off the body at an angle. On a Strat, you'd typically set it so that you can pull up about a step on the G string.

It's ok that the trem isn't level with the body. That's only important for two-post trems. I don't think yours is like that, but a close up pic would help. Does the front edge of then trem actually maintain contact with the body when you dive? I assume it does.

-i think your right, is 4 spring's the norm? I have pics over at the Marshall forum, I'll try to compress them so I can post here,

 

[Ventura]

https://www.lelo.com

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This is totally safe for work, just let any coworkers know who may take offence they're one and the same - just a bunch of dildos and buttplugs.