Immigrant labor. Some people think all they're good for is cleaning toilets

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Creating this thread to keep Dan's idiotic ramblings from derailing another.

Go over to the globe earth grifting thread if you want to read the full transcript. For brevity, let's recap from that thread.

Dan said somethign stupid about eveyone here hating on brown people, gays, women & others who are different. I replied with that was an amusing assessment coming from him who's made comments alluding to Mexican migrants only being good for picking crops & cleaning toilets.

Dan then played victim with something about I'm spinning it as him looking down on migrants because he personally witnessed his neighbor being dragged out their home by faceless cowards. I replied he was the one talking about migrants doing jobs that Americans won't do like that's all their good for and noted never recalling a time him saying anything about migrants being professionals.

His response to that was tell me there isn't an intrinsic link between migrants & service/farming industry. That was a wow moment for me. Way for Dan to say he doesn't look down on immigrants by associating them all with menial labor like they're no better than that. I noted that a good portion of my collogues are 1st/2nd generation migrants all working a lab scientists.

His last response was to double down on migrants only being worth cleaning his house or other service/agriculture industry jobs.

Picking it up from where we left off...

@Dan Gleesak
Yes, there is a correlation between migrant workers and service/agriculture. I don't have exact numbers, but migrants do make up a decent portion of those industries; with around 50% being unauthorized to work in the US. While that is true, this isn't where my first thoughts go. When I hear someone migrating to and being authorized to work in the US I think of someone who's looking to further their life goals with opportunities afforded here. My mind doesn't automatically go to oh good people to pick crops and clean toilets. I also don't think of those jobs as being "low class." I don't look down on any honest work regardless of the profession. So far everything you've said and alluded to makes it appear you think agriculture and service jobs and those who work in that industry are beneath you.
 
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didn't all the Italians come hear in the 1910s and 20s to be gangsters?
aren't the irish all drunks and cops
The Jamaicans weed dealers
African Americans pimps

you can stereotype all day long it dont make it true

only half my family were gangsters the other half worked hard
 
MadAsAHatter said:
Creating this thread to keep Dan's idiotic ramblings from derailing another.

Go over to the globe earth grifting thread if you want to read the full transcript. For brevity, let's recap from that thread.

Dan said somethign stupid about eveyone here hating on brown people, gays, women & others who are different. I replied with that was an amusing assessment coming from him who's made comments alluding to Mexican migrants only being good for picking crops & cleaning toilets.

Dan then played victim with something about I'm spinning it as him looking down on migrants because he personally witnessed his neighbor being dragged out their home by faceless cowards. I replied he was the one talking about migrants doing jobs that Americans won't do like that's all their good for and noted never recalling a time him saying anything about migrants being professionals.

His response to that was tell me there isn't an intrinsic link between migrants & service/farming industry. That was a wow moment for me. Way for Dan to say he doesn't look down on immigrants by associating them all with menial labor like they're no better than that. I noted that a good portion of my collogues are 1st/2nd generation migrants all working a lab scientists.

His last response was to double down on migrants only being worth cleaning his house or other service/agriculture industry jobs.

Picking it up from where we left off...

@Dan Gleesak
Yes, there is a correlation between migrant workers and service/agriculture. I don't have exact numbers, but migrants do make up a decent portion of those industries; with around 50% being unauthorized to work in the US. While that is true, this isn't where my first thoughts go. When I hear someone migrating to and being authorized to work in the US I think of someone who's looking to further their life goals with opportunities afforded here. My mind doesn't automatically go to oh good people to pick crops and clean toilets. I also don't think of those jobs as being "low class." I don't look down on any honest work regardless of the profession. So far everything you've said and alluded to makes it appear you think agriculture and service jobs and those who work in that industry are beneath you.
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Yea dude, you guys aren’t obsessed with me at all lol
 
My immigrant Grandmother was a music teacher, my Nutritionist is from Pakistan, my family Doctor is from China, my Son's apprenticeship is headed by a man from Mexico. A large portion of students in my courses at both UNLV and UW were immigrants, and very much not 101.
If I have one ethnic/nationalism stereotype off of the top of my head, it's that Mexicans make the best Asian cuisines when dining out.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
My apologies for derailing your secondary flat earth thread.
I hope you weren’t as affected by it as hatter was
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Derailing is expected of any thread on this forum, I don't care and won't lose any sleep over it. Although, if anything, I feel like he was being polite by moving y'all's conversation. I don't personally feel like anyone here is obsessed with anyone, so it's pretty lazy to use that as a go to when everyone is talking to everyone. Perhaps many of us are obsessed with our views, right or wrong, but that's about the extent that I see. Threads have also been started about nearly every member here or whatever quarrels/disputes we may have with each other. It's nothing new.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Derailing is expected of any thread on this forum, I don't care and won't lose any sleep over it. Although, if anything, I feel like he was being polite by moving y'all's conversation. I don't personally feel like anyone here is obsessed with anyone, so it's pretty lazy to use that as a go to when everyone is talking to everyone. Perhaps many of us are obsessed with our views, right or wrong, but that's about the extent that I see. Threads have also been started about nearly every member here or whatever quarrels/disputes we may have with each other. It's nothing new.
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Eh, it’s pretty weird.
He coulda just posted this in the ICE thread if he had benevolent intentions. But what’s more weird is his attempt at using my words against me by twisting them around. Interesting angle. Hes trying to make me out to be a piece of shit, but he’s also playing to a crowd of pieces of shit.
Interesting
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Eh, it’s pretty weird.
He coulda just posted this in the ICE thread if he had benevolent intentions. But what’s more weird is his attempt at using my words against me by twisting them around. Interesting angle. Hes trying to make me out to be a piece of shit, but he’s also playing to a crowd of pieces of shit.
Interesting
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Well, if that's how you feel; why bother coming here? I'm sure you can get your ego stroked or your lulz jollied off elsewhere where there isn't a crowd of so called pieces of shit. Besides, the intent of words apparently can mean whatever they want to the person reading them. I have come to understand with many interactions with you and others where I had attempted to be cordial, stated objective facts, or asked serious questions had often been manipulated or construed as an attack by the reader. Seems to be a bit hypocritical to take offense to it or consider it weird since you're guilty of doing it yourself, tbh.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Eh, it’s pretty weird.
He coulda just posted this in the ICE thread if he had benevolent intentions. But what’s more weird is his attempt at using my words against me by twisting them around. Interesting angle. Hes trying to make me out to be a piece of shit, but he’s also playing to a crowd of pieces of shit.
Interesting
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People are weird 🤷‍♂️

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Dan Gleesak said:
Yea dude, you guys aren’t obsessed with me at all lol
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Dan Gleesak said:
Eh, it’s pretty weird.
He coulda just posted this in the ICE thread if he had benevolent intentions. But what’s more weird is his attempt at using my words against me by twisting them around. Interesting angle. Hes trying to make me out to be a piece of shit, but he’s also playing to a crowd of pieces of shit.
Interesting
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Of course a narcissist like you would think everyone on an open guitar forum is obsessed with you. We've been over this several times. No one here cares about you. Well maybe the other couple of resident trolls like you, but that's about it. The only though anyone else gives to you is laughter when you post your obtuse thoughts and try to run a conversation in circles.

Poor pitiful victim Dan. It's always everyone else and never you. How conceited do you have to be to call everyone here a piece of shit? Seriously, if we're such horrible people why are you even here? From what I've seen, the moment you came to Rig-Talk you've looked down your nose at us. Apparently your sole purpose has been to make yourself feel superior to us "pieces of shit." I guess we're no different than those migrants you look down upon.

I also think it's highly amusing you're crying about your words being twisted when you yourself do it all the time. A perfect example of that... I remember a while back when you got all bent out of shape with @Floyd Eye (I think) bitching about "don't talk about my daughters." He asked a simple question of how you would feel in a certain situation and you went on for pages twisting his words like he personally threatened you family. So go ahead an stick that hypocrisy where the sun don't shine.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
Of course a narcissist like you would think everyone on an open guitar forum is obsessed with you. We've been over this several times. No one here cares about you. Well maybe the other couple of resident trolls like you, but that's about it. The only though anyone else gives to you is laughter when you post your obtuse thoughts and try to run a conversation in circles.

Poor pitiful victim Dan. It's always everyone else and never you. How conceited do you have to be to call everyone here a piece of shit? Seriously, if we're such horrible people why are you even here? From what I've seen, the moment you came to Rig-Talk you've looked down your nose at us. Apparently your sole purpose has been to make yourself feel superior to us "pieces of shit." I guess we're no different than those migrants you look down upon.

I also think it's highly amusing you're crying about your words being twisted when you yourself do it all the time. A perfect example of that... I remember a while back when you got all bent out of shape with @Floyd Eye (I think) bitching about "don't talk about my daughters." He asked a simple question of how you would feel in a certain situation and you went on for pages twisting his words like he personally threatened you family. So go ahead an stick that hypocrisy where the sun don't shine.
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lol well I commend you for sticking course. Your memory is only partially correct and not surprisingly leaves out importing things.

But I suppose that is on purpose anyways. Keep up the good work!
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Well, if that's how you feel; why bother coming here? I'm sure you can get your ego stroked or your lulz jollied off elsewhere where there isn't a crowd of so called pieces of shit. Besides, the intent of words apparently can mean whatever they want to the person reading them. I have come to understand with many interactions with you and others where I had attempted to be cordial, stated objective facts, or asked serious questions had often been manipulated or construed as an attack by the reader. Seems to be a bit hypocritical to take offense to it or consider it weird since you're guilty of doing it yourself, tbh.
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Don’t be a dumbass. He spun what I said very specifically. No reason to pretend he didn’t. This tongue and cheek shit yall are trying is very TGP lol

But why am I here? I think it’s interesting. I like it. I point out shit people do and you guys just cry “playing victim”, when really the shit doesn’t bother me at all. I just like when people step all over their own dicks and you guys don’t have the coping mechanisms to deal with it, so you say stuff like I’m playing the victim. I treat you guys the way you treat people that aren’t here, and you don’t like it. I get it
 
Dan Gleesak said:
But why am I here? I think it’s interesting. I like it. I point out shit people do and you guys just cry “playing victim”, when really the shit doesn’t bother me at all. I just like when people step all over their own dicks and you guys don’t have the coping mechanisms to deal with it, so you say stuff like I’m playing the victim. I treat you guys the way you treat people that aren’t here, and you don’t like it. I get it
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100% why no one has any respect for you. You came here solely to shit on forum members, shit on RT, and by extension shit on the mods. Don't sit there any pretend you're some sort of virtuous defender of the helpless. It's no more than some narcistic delusion in your mind. And you do play victim. It's part of your MO to crap on everyone & everything here.

I've never wanted to see anyone get banned, even the people I disagree with or the ones who constantly shitpost. But I think you deserve a permaban for the pure disrespect you're showing towards everyone and the forum itself.

Addition: You must be a real pathetic loser in life to have act like such a douche towards a guitar forum to make yourself feel good. I sorta pity you now.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
100% why no one has any respect for you. You came here solely to shit on forum members, shit on RT, and by extension shit on the mods. Don't sit there any pretend you're some sort of virtuous defender of the helpless. It's no more than some narcistic delusion in your mind. And you do play victim. It's part of your MO to crap on everyone & everything here.

I've never wanted to see anyone get banned, even the people I disagree with or the ones who constantly shitpost. But I think you deserve a permaban for the pure disrespect you're showing towards everyone and the forum itself.

Addition: You must be a real pathetic loser in life to have act like such a douche towards a guitar forum to make yourself feel good. I sorta pity you now.
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lol oh relax. I’m not defending anyone. I just think many things said here are deplorable and I like seeing the reactions of people smelling their own stink so to speak.

I didn’t know barely any of you retards before I got here, and it took quite a while to tell you all apart after that to be honest.
I came here to shit on TGP because I knew those mods were watching.
Then I got over it and stayed around.

If the mods feel disrespectful by what I say about you guys, then they can say something and I will happily tone it down, but I also believe their are bright enough to realize when I talk shit about people here, it’s about the same people who give me shit right back, and not talking about the forum as a whole. I don’t shot on you guys to play a victim, I shit on you guys because I think you deserve it. Yall love the freedom to say whatever you want until someone says it back to you.

I’ve had plenty of pleasant conversations with members and mods alike here in threads and PMs.

Looking forward to your next angle
 
No new angle, I'm sticking to my assessment of you being a loser in life. But go ahead and tell yourself what you need to even though deep down you know how pathetic you are. Anyway I've said what I need to and am done wasting my time on human garbage like you.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
100% why no one has any respect for you. You came here solely to shit on forum members, shit on RT, and by extension shit on the mods. Don't sit there any pretend you're some sort of virtuous defender of the helpless. It's no more than some narcistic delusion in your mind. And you do play victim. It's part of your MO to crap on everyone & everything here.

I've never wanted to see anyone get banned, even the people I disagree with or the ones who constantly shitpost. But I think you deserve a permaban for the pure disrespect you're showing towards everyone and the forum itself.
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What's that about being a "virtuous defender" of the "helpless"? :ROFLMAO:
 
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