Isolation box to a monitor advice.

[justinl101]

Alright guys, I don't know if what I'm trying to do is even worth it but here it is.

I'm trying to build an isolation box to house a EVH 212 cab so i can try and get a cranked volume sound sent back to some kind of monitor/studio headphones rig. I currently don't have any of the gear needed for this other than mt 5153 50Watt and 212 Evh cab. Google isn't giving me the answers i need to piece together a rig to make this work. I imagine i need some sort of interface for the mic. I'm not trying to have a crazy budget here, but i need great sound that smashes low level jamming or it's pointless to even try so I'm not trying to be a tight ass on cash. So please give your best recommendations on equipment that's

Side note, my basement has a nice empty spot located just under my computer station, and i have a the floor already set to run cable due to my internet lines being ran in the same spot. Would i lose any serious tone running a 15' to 20' speaker cable? Thoughts and comments

Will take any advice on The isolation box as well as personal experiences to how loud it is compared to low level jamming. I have a few feet to work with as far as box dimensions go, I'm hoping it doesn't get bigger than a 4' x 4' box.

 

[Spaceboy]

suhr reactive load, download some IRs, use a plugin

200 times better sounding and less hassle than an isolation cabinet

 

[Panzer917-30]

Iso cabs are a trade off no matter what you do. I've had a couple Randell and Jet City, and I've built a couple customs also.
They work OK for live sound, but you lose a lot of tone for recording. Plus they arnt as quite as you think they are going to be. My custom ones were iso box floated on iso absorbers inside another Iso box. Even at this level of isolation I couldn't push 20watts of tube anywhere near 60% before it was too loud to prevent external mic bleed.

Load boxes like the Sure, Freyette or the Torpedo stuff is a better bet. Also custom builds are money that you'll never recover if it isn't to taste. Production stuff can always be traded for the right gear tomorrow

 

[petejt]

Iso cabs are a trade off no matter what you do. I've had a couple Randell and Jet City, and I've built a couple customs also.
They work OK for live sound, but you lose a lot of tone for recording. Plus they arnt as quite as you think they are going to be. My custom ones were iso box floated on iso absorbers inside another Iso box. Even at this level of isolation I couldn't push 20watts of tube anywhere near 60% before it was too loud to prevent external mic bleed.

Load boxes like the Sure, Freyette or the Torpedo stuff is a better bet. Also custom builds are money that you'll never recover if it isn't to taste. Production stuff can always be traded for the right gear tomorrow

That's an interesting point. It tells me that the best "isolation box" is a dedicated soundproof basement music studio side-room.

 

[bste328]

suhr reactive load, download some IRs, use a plugin

200 times better sounding and less hassle than an isolation cabinet

+1

FYI - Also there is the Fryette Power Load that has the same functionalities of the Suhr RL but adds also the possibility to use an analog cab simulator that could be useful if you don't want to turn on your PC/DAW to listen to your cranked amp or to save some CPU while tracking guitars

I recently done a small comparison here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193949

 

[Spaceboy]

Could you not use the Suhr with an analog device? I’ve never used any sort of analog sim myself. I had the Fryette, sold it and got the RL and honestly can’t tell the difference although I didn’t have them side by side. But the RL was half the price and some reviews favor it. The attenuator feature of the PS2 was userful though.

 

[bste328]

Could you not use the Suhr with an analog device? I’ve never used any sort of analog sim myself. I had the Fryette, sold it and got the RL and honestly can’t tell the difference although I didn’t have them side by side. But the RL was half the price and some reviews favor it. The attenuator feature of the PS2 was userful though.

I'm actually referring to the POWER LOAD not the POWER STATION

http://www.fryette.com/fryette-power-load

 

[Spaceboy]

doh! dummy moment