Jason Bieler?

[Isaac]

I can't find any thing on this guy. Pics, gear, nothing. Anyone know anything about him? I'm really digging the first 2 Saigon Kick albums.

 

[FIREBALL]

yeah where did he go

 

[technomancer]

Last I heard he was doing production work.

I absolutely love Saigon Kick but have no idea what gear he used...

 

[polaris20]

http://www.bielerbros.com/index2.html

As for gear, he played ESP's as far as I know, and used the Rivera TBR-1SL a lot. I love his tone on The Lizard and Water.

 

[jabps]

http://www.bielerbros.com/index2.html

As for gear, he played ESP's as far as I know, and used the Rivera TBR-1SL a lot. I love his tone on The Lizard and Water.

Yeah that's pretty much it. Pretty sure he used a dist pedal as well...think it was a DS-1. Could be wrong though on that.

One of my favorite bands..."Devil in the Details" has some serious rockin stuff on it.

 

[polaris20]

http://www.bielerbros.com/index2.html

As for gear, he played ESP's as far as I know, and used the Rivera TBR-1SL a lot. I love his tone on The Lizard and Water.

Yeah that's pretty much it. Pretty sure he used a dist pedal as well...think it was a DS-1. Could be wrong though on that.

One of my favorite bands..."Devil in the Details" has some serious rockin stuff on it.

Yeah, it was either an SD-1 or DS-1; orange or yellow Boss.

 

[SFW]

ESPs & Les Pauls loaded with Duncan Custom and Distortion neck models.
Boss DS-1 to "smooth out the amp"
Rivera TBR-1SL

I spoke with Jason, via email, during the late 90s. Very cool guy. I almost bought one of his TBRs, but the deal fell through when his manager got involved. He released an album with the group Supertransatlantic called shuttlecock. The band also had Extreme bassist Pat Badger in it. Some cool tunes, but overall left a little to be desired. These days he's behind the scenes kinda guy. Which is too bad, he was a huge influence on me when I was learning to play. Saigon Kick is still one of my favorite bands.

 

[jabps]

ESPs & Les Pauls loaded with Duncan Custom and Distortion neck models.
Boss DS-1 to "smooth out the amp"
Rivera TBR-1SL

I spoke with Jason, via email, during the late 90s. Very cool guy. I almost bought one of his TBRs, but the deal fell through when his manager got involved. He released an album with the group Supertransatlantic called shuttlecock. The band also had Extreme bassist Pat Badger in it. Some cool tunes, but overall left a little to be desired. These days he's behind the scenes kinda guy. Which is too bad, he was a huge influence on me when I was learning to play. Saigon Kick is still one of my favorite bands.

Yeah I couldn't remember 100% on the pedal. Funny thing is i was just listenting to Devil in the Details...and pulled out all the other CD's. Also ran into "Moments from the Fringe" at a used CD shop but I wasn't going to fork out $50 bucks for it.

Would like to track down Bastards someday.

Great band but they should've kept Matt in the band. I think "Water" could have blown up with him in it. I've heard from aquaintances that used to work with them on the road...either with other bands they were touring with etc... that several of them were a wild/difficult bunch. Great band though...alot of people should take the time to re-discover these guys.

Can't remember but during that era Rivera made a cool head (wasn't the rack series) that was pretty badass...throw a SD-1 in front of them and you'd get real close to Jason's tone. Huge low end on those things but I can't remember the model...it was before the Knuckehead. Oh well.

 

[Chubtone]

I could have sworn it was an SD-1 and not a DS-1. Great tones. Great player. Great songwriter.

 

[polaris20]

ESPs & Les Pauls loaded with Duncan Custom and Distortion neck models.
Boss DS-1 to "smooth out the amp"
Rivera TBR-1SL

I spoke with Jason, via email, during the late 90s. Very cool guy. I almost bought one of his TBRs, but the deal fell through when his manager got involved. He released an album with the group Supertransatlantic called shuttlecock. The band also had Extreme bassist Pat Badger in it. Some cool tunes, but overall left a little to be desired. These days he's behind the scenes kinda guy. Which is too bad, he was a huge influence on me when I was learning to play. Saigon Kick is still one of my favorite bands.

Yeah, he was a huge influence on me as well; pretty much him and Nuno were my favs, and I love both their tones they got in that era, especially Jason's Water tone and Nuno's 3 Sides tone.

 

[Bronco]

ESPs & Les Pauls loaded with Duncan Custom and Distortion neck models.
Boss DS-1 to "smooth out the amp"
Rivera TBR-1SL

I spoke with Jason, via email, during the late 90s. Very cool guy. I almost bought one of his TBRs, but the deal fell through when his manager got involved. He released an album with the group Supertransatlantic called shuttlecock. The band also had Extreme bassist Pat Badger in it. Some cool tunes, but overall left a little to be desired. These days he's behind the scenes kinda guy. Which is too bad, he was a huge influence on me when I was learning to play. Saigon Kick is still one of my favorite bands.

Yeah I couldn't remember 100% on the pedal. Funny thing is i was just listenting to Devil in the Details...and pulled out all the other CD's.

Can't remember but during that era Rivera made a cool head (wasn't the rack series) that was pretty badass...throw a SD-1 in front of them and you'd get real close to Jason's tone. Huge low end on those things but I can't remember the model...it was before the Knuckehead. Oh well.

I spoke with him recently via email also; very cool guy indeed. He was gracious to a faut that I even wanted to know about his equipment.

He was definitely playing through a Rivera TBR-1SL. Those amps have the same preamp as the Rivera M and S series amps, which may be what you are referring to. However, the TBRs have a 'slope' control that the M and S series do not, which IMO, is the real key to his tone. Incidentally, I tried both at SD1 and DS1 in front (mostly as a clean boost to tame the lows), and the difference was neglible. I have a M60 that I play through a Genz Benz G Flex cab that can get real close to Water and Lizard tones, but it's that damn slope control that's lacking that really makes all the difference. (BTW, talk about an underated amp, the M60 )...

 

[polaris20]

ESPs & Les Pauls loaded with Duncan Custom and Distortion neck models.
Boss DS-1 to "smooth out the amp"
Rivera TBR-1SL

I spoke with Jason, via email, during the late 90s. Very cool guy. I almost bought one of his TBRs, but the deal fell through when his manager got involved. He released an album with the group Supertransatlantic called shuttlecock. The band also had Extreme bassist Pat Badger in it. Some cool tunes, but overall left a little to be desired. These days he's behind the scenes kinda guy. Which is too bad, he was a huge influence on me when I was learning to play. Saigon Kick is still one of my favorite bands.

Yeah I couldn't remember 100% on the pedal. Funny thing is i was just listenting to Devil in the Details...and pulled out all the other CD's.

Can't remember but during that era Rivera made a cool head (wasn't the rack series) that was pretty badass...throw a SD-1 in front of them and you'd get real close to Jason's tone. Huge low end on those things but I can't remember the model...it was before the Knuckehead. Oh well.

I spoke with him recently via email also; very cool guy indeed. He was gracious to a faut that I even wanted to know about his equipment.

He was definitely playing through a Rivera TBR-1SL. Those amps have the same preamp as the Rivera M and S series amps, which may be what you are referring to. However, the TBRs have a 'slope' control that the M and S series do not, which IMO, is the real key to his tone. Incidentally, I tried both at SD1 and DS1 in front (mostly as a clean boost to tame the lows), and the difference was neglible. I have a M60 that I play through a Genz Benz G Flex cab that can get real close to Water and Lizard tones, but it's that damn slope control that's lacking that really makes all the difference. (BTW, talk about an underated amp, the M60 )...

Interesting; what does the slope actually do?

 

[Bronco]

Interesting; what does the slope actually do?

It shifts the mids to different frequency ranges...that's my simpleton explanation. I'm sure someone else can chime in with a better answer.

 

[SFW]

The Slope control is a five position rotary switch that changes the frequency at which the mids are centered and where the "Mid" knob controls them. On the M/S amps, the mid knob is a push/pull that toggles between the two most popular ones on the TBR series. I've owned 3 M100s and you can get VERY close to Jasnon's tones with it. I need to pick another one up.

 

[polaris20]

Wow, interesting. M100 is close you say? I'll have to see if I can find one.

 

[jabps]

The Slope control is a five position rotary switch that changes the frequency at which the mids are centered and where the "Mid" knob controls them. On the M/S amps, the mid knob is a push/pull that toggles between the two most popular ones on the TBR series. I've owned 3 M100s and you can get VERY close to Jasnon's tones with it. I need to pick another one up.

Yeah I think the M100 is the one I was talking about...throw a SD-1 in front of those and you can get real close to that tone.

 

[Bronco]

Wow, interesting. M100 is close you say? I'll have to see if I can find one.

Yeah, and if you come across an M60, don't be afraid to check that out either (same preamp as M100). You should be able to get either for well under $700...and I'll challenge anyone to compare the clean channels on those things to any Rivera-era black face Fender.

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

This is the 2nd time this has been brought up.. I actually still have all of the old 90's guitar mags with him in it..

He did not use a DS-1 from what I remember, It was one of the Orange O.D.'s, Super O.D.'s type Pedals..
With one of the Boss delays for live use...

 

[polaris20]

This is the 2nd time this has been brought up.. I actually still have all of the old 90's guitar mags with him in it..

He did not use a DS-1 from what I remember, It was one of the Orange O.D.'s, Super O.D.'s type Pedals..
With one of the Boss delays for live use...

The orange one is a DS-1.

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

I know the DS1 was orange it was my first distortion pedal when I was kid..

What I was saying is the pedal he used was orange but it was not a DS1