JVM versus EVH 5150 III

[thiswaythatway]

I've played both but it's been a while and I never played them next to eachother or with a few weeks. I know both can get high gain but which one does better for crunchy tones for hard rock. Does the JVM thin out when you bring the gains down. I really also don't remember how the 2nd channel of the 5150 III sounded.

What say ye?

 

[Shiny_Surface]

I thought you didn't like those amps.

 

[Digital Jams]

This is not going to end well

I thought you called these amps chinese blender parts

 

[Moshaholic]

I owned 2 5150 III's back early on when they first came out...

I dunno what it was about those amps that never made me want to keep them around very long...

JVM 410, Channel 1, red mode with all the controls at noon is a pretty sick crunhcy plex like rock tone that I use all the time.... I think the JVM is the best Marshall I have ever owned... And there have been many!

 

[Gainfreak]

I've played both but it's been a while and I never played them next to eachother or with a few weeks. I know both can get high gain but which one does better for crunchy tones for hard rock. Does the JVM thin out when you bring the gains down. I really also don't remember how the 2nd channel of the 5150 III sounded.

What say ye?

I love both amps.

For Crunchy Tones and hard Rock id Pick the JVM and I don't find the JVM to thin out as you bring the Gain down. With that said, I prefer the Newer JVM210H's to the JVM410's because I dont need the 16 options that the 410's have. Having the 6 options suits me just fine and I'ts plenty for what I do.

The Second channel of the 5150 is cool and Ive always dug it.

If you want a swiss army knife amp it's pretty tough to beat the JVM and they can be had pretty cheap these days.

 

[Audioholic]

Can't speak of the 5150 as of yet but just tried the jvm for the second time and was yet again impressed with it. It seemed to act well with rolling off the volume and I dug the saturation tons. Was one of my favorites of the amps I tried out. Don't have tons of time on it to speak strongly of it or know its faults but I am surprised they don't get more love.

However for price I have my eye on the 50 watt evh. Just wish I could demo one.

 

[thiswaythatway]

This is not going to end well

I thought you called these amps chinese blender parts

Well I hear Mr. Fortin can fix em. I feel like a high gainer, without the high price tag. And I'm almost 99% sure that I'd sound the same on a $1100 dollar amp as I would a $3900 dollar amp.

 

[Audioholic]

I've played both but it's been a while and I never played them next to eachother or with a few weeks. I know both can get high gain but which one does better for crunchy tones for hard rock. Does the JVM thin out when you bring the gains down. I really also don't remember how the 2nd channel of the 5150 III sounded.

What say ye?

I love both amps.

For Crunchy Tones and hard Rock id Pick the JVM and I don't find the JVM to thin out as you bring the Gain down. With that said, I prefer the Newer JVM210H's to the JVM410's because I dont need the 16 options that the 410's have. Having the 6 options suits me just fine and I'ts plenty for what I do.

The Second channel of the 5150 is cool and Ive always dug it.

If you want a swiss army knife amp it's pretty tough to beat the JVM and they can be had pretty cheap these days.

What do you think the 5150 III does better then the jvm? I havnt seen to many used ones pop up (jvm)

 

[shreder75]

hmm..JVM or 5150 III?

that's simple...

you want a cameron...just saying....

but that's not important right now..

*scurries away*

 

[Gainfreak]

I've played both but it's been a while and I never played them next to eachother or with a few weeks. I know both can get high gain but which one does better for crunchy tones for hard rock. Does the JVM thin out when you bring the gains down. I really also don't remember how the 2nd channel of the 5150 III sounded.

What say ye?

I love both amps.

For Crunchy Tones and hard Rock id Pick the JVM and I don't find the JVM to thin out as you bring the Gain down. With that said, I prefer the Newer JVM210H's to the JVM410's because I dont need the 16 options that the 410's have. Having the 6 options suits me just fine and I'ts plenty for what I do.

The Second channel of the 5150 is cool and Ive always dug it.

If you want a swiss army knife amp it's pretty tough to beat the JVM and they can be had pretty cheap these days.

What do you think the 5150 III does better then the jvm? I havnt seen to many used ones pop up (jvm)

I think the 51510 III gets the nod for the newer brutal type stuff especialy when you hit them with a Tube screamer (like most of the guys are doing these days)

The JVM can most definitely hold it's own in that department but it's more of a voicing thing then anything else.

As far as landing a used JVM's they pop up in sperts lol! At one time you could get them very easily but I'm not sure now becuse I haven't looked for them i n a long while.

 

[thiswaythatway]

hmm..JVM or 5150 III?

that's simple...

you want a cameron...just saying....

but that's not important right now..

*scurries away*

But I'm not looking for forum street credit, so no Cameron. And the best amps that had anything to do with Cameron always had a Marshall logo on them.

 

[shreder75]

hmm..JVM or 5150 III?

that's simple...

you want a cameron...just saying....

but that's not important right now..

*scurries away*

But I'm not looking for forum street credit, so no Cameron. And the best amps that had anything to do with Cameron always had a Marshall logo on them.

oh...so much for my for my 'can't beat em then join them' tactics....I'm doomed to be a pariah...le sad...

but seriously
don't you have a fortin? doesn't that do the high gainzorz for you?

 

[Audioholic]

I've played both but it's been a while and I never played them next to eachother or with a few weeks. I know both can get high gain but which one does better for crunchy tones for hard rock. Does the JVM thin out when you bring the gains down. I really also don't remember how the 2nd channel of the 5150 III sounded.

What say ye?

I love both amps.

For Crunchy Tones and hard Rock id Pick the JVM and I don't find the JVM to thin out as you bring the Gain down. With that said, I prefer the Newer JVM210H's to the JVM410's because I dont need the 16 options that the 410's have. Having the 6 options suits me just fine and I'ts plenty for what I do.

The Second channel of the 5150 is cool and Ive always dug it.

If you want a swiss army knife amp it's pretty tough to beat the JVM and they can be had pretty cheap these days.

What do you think the 5150 III does better then the jvm? I havnt seen to many used ones pop up (jvm)

I think the 51510 III gets the nod for the newer brutal type stuff especialy when you hit them with a Tube screamer (like most of the guys are doing these days)

The JVM can most definitely hold it's own in that department but it's more of a voicing thing then anything else.

As far as landing a used JVM's they pop up in sperts lol! At one time you could get them very easily but I'm not sure now becuse I haven't looked for them i n a long while.

Thanks I tried the 50 watt jvm and like I said I was very impressed and had I the money would of picked that over the mini recto , mark v, and orange th-30 amps I tried. I also dug the royal Atlantic but I am finding I may not be a Mesa guy. The jvm killed. I may go with the 5150 3 because I may need a tighter amp assuming that's true. Wish I could try them back to back.

 

[yngzaklynch]

I owned both of them. The 5153...
Clean was passable
Crunch needed more gain. Just felt flat to me
Gain channel was to hairy sounding.
In short it was close everywhere but never quite got there


JVM...
Best clean channel of any of my channel switchers. The onboard reverb is actually really good IMO.

Ch2 was VERY close to a JCM800 and worked great with a boost/OD pedal.

Ch3 and Ch4 just didn't do much for me. Tons of gain but kinda compressed and just could never dial them to my liking.

To answer your question I would take the JVM. I would only need the first 2 channels and an OD pedal.

Jim

 

[Digital Jams]

This is not going to end well

I thought you called these amps chinese blender parts

Well I hear Mr. Fortin can fix em. I feel like a high gainer, without the high price tag. And I'm almost 99% sure that I'd sound the same on a $1100 dollar amp as I would a $3900 dollar amp.

The thing with the JVM is that no matter who or what you are jamming to the JVM will have the channel you need and you do not need to worry about it getting banged around.

Lolzgreg's modded 5153 does sound awesome though, cannot deny that for the modern stuff.

 

[Coopster]

I haven't played the 5153, but I love my JVM210. It pretty much nails any tone I want to get. I did a fun thing the other day and ran my Wolfie through all three of my amps side by side just to see the differences and even at (not quite) bedroom volumes, the JVM has amazing harmonic overtones that the two 20 watters don't have. I'd go from cool, crunchy sounds to this musical chorus of sound. I like my Jet City and my Blackstar is alright but that JVM?

 

[Audioholic]

So far the consensus seems to bethat the jvm is the better amp?

 

[mrkmas]

It has been a very long time since I used the 5150 III, but from what I remember and my knowledge of having played JVM's, I would say the JVM can do most of what the EVH can do, with alot more versatility. I found the gain and volume controls to work really well with the JVM at lower volumes. I would go the JVM route personally.

 

[Gainzilla]

So far the consensus seems to bethat the jvm is the better amp?

NAh, I think the consensus is that those who have chimed in prefer the JVM. I think only the end user can determine whats better for their individual uses,preferences and style...

 

[mrkmas]

So far the consensus seems to bethat the jvm is the better amp?

NAh, I think the consensus is that those who have chimed in prefer the JVM. I think only the end user can determine whats better for their individual uses,preferences and style...

agree 100%. I definitely prefer the JVM, but that is not to say the amp is better or worse than the EVH. EVH can certainly get some tones the JVM cannot.