C
chameleon2112
Member
which of these mps will delivever the best clean channel, mid gain channel and heavy chug and solo channel?
glpg80
Well-known member
5150 III's are not known for their low end.
however, they are awsome soloing amplifiers and have an excellent feel - they cut well and record well also.
for your application, id recommend the JVM.
however, they are awsome soloing amplifiers and have an excellent feel - they cut well and record well also.
for your application, id recommend the JVM.
A
AndyKE
New member
I would without a doubt go for the JVM.
Moshaholic
New member
gbsmusic
Well-known member
5150III put an EQ in the loop to bring out a little more low end. 
I haven't played a Mark V so I can't comment on it I'm not a fan of the JVM.
I haven't played a Mark V so I can't comment on it I'm not a fan of the JVM.
gibson08
Well-known member
Are those all of your choices? I think I would skip the JVM, I just dont get all the raves with this amp, I dunno,,it just always seems so unbalanced to me(my opinion of course) so picking from the other two,,it would be a personal decision, I would pick the MKV if i was doing a fair amount of lead, 5153 for more chording. IMO.
nevusofota
Well-known member
5150III hands down, though I haven't played a Mark V yet. 
Not enough low end with the EVH?? I don't have that problem with mine at all. I mean if you crank the bass and the resonance the amp has tons. Channel two seems to have a tighter more prominent low end when boosted than channel 3 (which is my primary tone). I also run it through a Mesa Standard 4x12 cab so that probably helps.
I think you need to go to GC and give it a try. I think you'll see what I mean. The clean channel is awesome also.
Not enough low end with the EVH?? I don't have that problem with mine at all. I mean if you crank the bass and the resonance the amp has tons. Channel two seems to have a tighter more prominent low end when boosted than channel 3 (which is my primary tone). I also run it through a Mesa Standard 4x12 cab so that probably helps.
I think you need to go to GC and give it a try. I think you'll see what I mean. The clean channel is awesome also.
spawnofthesith
New member
I've tried all three to some extent or another (and own a Mark V) and I personally would opt for the Mark V based on what your looking for
glassjaw7
Well-known member
Of those three I'd happily take either the Mark or the 5153. The JVM is ok IMO, but nowhere near the other two in terms of feel or playability. Just my opinion. Some people love em! 
I feel that the Mark V is your best choice (with a tube change) of the amps listed.
However, if you search a little you could find an XTC 101B for a little over 2G. That amp would be my choice in that price range.
I feel that the Mark V is your best choice (with a tube change) of the amps listed. However, if you search a little you could find an XTC 101B for a little over 2G. That amp would be my choice in that price range.
glpg80
Well-known member
nevusofota":2bqp23cm said:5150III hands down, though I haven't played a Mark V yet.
Not enough low end with the EVH?? I don't have that problem with mine at all. I mean if you crank the bass and the resonance the amp has tons. Channel two seems to have a tighter more prominent low end when boosted than channel 3 (which is my primary tone). I also run it through a Mesa Standard 4x12 cab so that probably helps.
I think you need to go to GC and give it a try. I think you'll see what I mean. The clean channel is awesome also.
i have played alot 5150 III's - ive been on the fence of getting one for a long time. i have never played one that had a resonance control like my 5150 II or my 5150 block letter i owned at the same time.
with that being said - my 5150 II stomps a mudhole in the 5150 III's low end compartment. but the 5150 III has a much better overall tone of all of the amplifiers listed in this topic so far. but for what the OP is asking for, i believe the JVM will deliver and do it better.
personal opinion from playing many floor models. but i have not had enough time to spend on them as our local sam ash kicks you off of the amplifiers after an hour - store policy
9ball
New member
glpg80":2eini5is said:but i have not had enough time to spend on them as our local sam ash kicks you off of the amplifiers after an hour - store policy
wtf .... then i wouldn't buy an amplifier there lol
glpg80
Well-known member
yeah i havent been back in over a year. they started doing the same thing with high end guitars because some douchebag tried to steal a PRS down his pants.
they will even kick you off if you have cash in pocket. i was going to purchase my ESP M-II from there but they did not listen when i said if they dont leave me alone to noodle i will take my business somewhere else
and i did.
they will even kick you off if you have cash in pocket. i was going to purchase my ESP M-II from there but they did not listen when i said if they dont leave me alone to noodle i will take my business somewhere else
and i did.
nevusofota
Well-known member
glpg80":1lexf8fb said:nevusofota":1lexf8fb said:5150III hands down, though I haven't played a Mark V yet.
Not enough low end with the EVH?? I don't have that problem with mine at all. I mean if you crank the bass and the resonance the amp has tons. Channel two seems to have a tighter more prominent low end when boosted than channel 3 (which is my primary tone). I also run it through a Mesa Standard 4x12 cab so that probably helps.
I think you need to go to GC and give it a try. I think you'll see what I mean. The clean channel is awesome also.
i have played alot 5150 III's - ive been on the fence of getting one for a long time. i have never played one that had a resonance control like my 5150 II or my 5150 block letter i owned at the same time.
with that being said - my 5150 II stomps a mudhole in the 5150 III's low end compartment. but the 5150 III has a much better overall tone of all of the amplifiers listed in this topic so far. but for what the OP is asking for, i believe the JVM will deliver and do it better.
personal opinion from playing many floor models. but i have not had enough time to spend on them as our local sam ash kicks you off of the amplifiers after an hour - store policy
My bad about the resonance control. I've been spending the weekend trying to tweak my Peavey 5150 combo to sound lilke my III and my mind was looking at the combo controls. I apologize. However, maybe its just the combo, but my III stomps a mudhole in the Combo. Next time you try a III boost the second channel. Channel 2 is where the magic of the amp is. I think that when most people demo this amp in the store they go for clean first then jump right to the high gain channel and miss (or don't spend enough time with) channel 2. I can't get the combo close to the III (even when the III runs through a 2x12 w/ v30's).
Sorry to the OP, don't want to make this into another 5150 only discussion. Good luck in finding the sound in your head. The best way to do this is just go to GC and try them all out yourself. I say GC because most carry all three of the amps your looking at.
yngzaklynch
New member
Did like the JVM's 3rd or 4th channels. Crunch channel and clean channels were great. 5153 good clean. Crunch was nice but not quite there. 3rd channel was kinda hairy. Sold mine and don't miss it. Played a Mk 5 for maybe 30 minutes at most. Really liked it a lot but you have to be a fan of the Mesa Mk series. The nids are a little nasal IMHO but damn are tthey a fun amp to play through. My vote goes to the Mk V.
glpg80
Well-known member
you are right about the mark V - i could not squeeze decent tones out of that amplifier at all. you have to really know mesa's to know what the fuck you are doing to get decent tones out of them otherwise it wont work for you at all.
its why i like 5150's so much. set it and forget it - only the volume knob changes on mine.
its why i like 5150's so much. set it and forget it - only the volume knob changes on mine.