Kemper Liquid Profiling

[Dan Gleesak]

I’m not sure what it is but I want it

 

[Smash]

This guy looks like he just came out of a heroin den. I would follow him to the ends of the earth

 

[Deleted member 16554]

 

[Smash]

whenever I make a clip of an amp, I take a picture of my settings so that if i hear that song, I can go back to that sound. I mean, i don't profile or model or anything. just my tube amps

 

[Dan Gleesak]

 

[guitarnate2000]

here is the way it was explainned to my by someone I consider very knowledgable in the Amp Modelling world

I am hybrid. I have only every play tubes live with the exception of maybe ten time out of a thousand shows. I am looking forward to this if it does what it is intended to do as some of the key points my friend explained to me, have been my gripe about using live.


If you're not a guitar nerd, you should probably walk away from this post before you start rolling your eyes. lol
So... "Profiling" vs. "Modeling". It's always been an interesting debate.

Modeling of course is a digital "Design" around a specific amp. This "Model" of the actual amp is designed to sound very close to the actual amp and most importantly (To me at least) REACT like the actual amp. This means, the EQ, the Presence, the Gain, etc. are all digitally designed to react very similarly to how the actual amp reacts.

Now, Amp "Profiling" is a somewhat newer approach in which you literally plug your amp into the device at the setting you want and it will make a digital imprint on that amp and those exact settings.

It's always been a trade off. The general consensus has always been the "Modelers" tend to sound digital. HOWEVER, they react to adjustments very much like the actual amp it was modeled after to where the "Profilers" tend to sound and respond much more like a real amp does to things like knob rolling, volume, edge of breakup stuff, etc. The VERY BIG drawback is, once you've made a profile of an amp at specific settings, that's it.

Of course you get all the normal adjustment knobs you normally would, Gain, EQ, Presence, etc. BUT the more you adjust, the more "Digital" it's going to start to sound because the "Profiler" doesn't KNOW how the specific amp that was profiled will react to those changes. That is why, when you buy "Profiles" from all the professional "Profiling" experts, they usually come with hundreds upon hundreds of different profiles of different tweaks of the amp. It's QUITE overwhelming at times that's for sure.


Kemper about to change the game. This announcement kind of fell under the radar but they will be releasing "Liquid Profiling" in a future (Free) software update.

What they will be doing is adding in the ability to "Model" the more popular amps. So, let's say I download a professionally "Profiled" Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier Rev G.

Once the software update is released, I'll be able to add the "Modeled" Triple Rectifier Rev G Liquid Profile that that already created Profile of the actual amp and when I do, all of the controls on my Kemper Profiler will actually REACT like the actual controls on the amp itself without losing that "Real amp feel" that profilers are known for

 

[Smash]

here is the way it was explainned to my by someone I consider very knowledgable in the Amp Modelling world

I am hybrid. I have only every play tubes live with the exception of maybe ten time out of a thousand shows. I am looking forward to this if it does what it is intended to do as some of the key points my friend explained to me, have been my gripe about using live.


If you're not a guitar nerd, you should probably walk away from this post before you start rolling your eyes. lol
So... "Profiling" vs. "Modeling". It's always been an interesting debate.

Modeling of course is a digital "Design" around a specific amp. This "Model" of the actual amp is designed to sound very close to the actual amp and most importantly (To me at least) REACT like the actual amp. This means, the EQ, the Presence, the Gain, etc. are all digitally designed to react very similarly to how the actual amp reacts.

Now, Amp "Profiling" is a somewhat newer approach in which you literally plug your amp into the device at the setting you want and it will make a digital imprint on that amp and those exact settings.

It's always been a trade off. The general consensus has always been the "Modelers" tend to sound digital. HOWEVER, they react to adjustments very much like the actual amp it was modeled after to where the "Profilers" tend to sound and respond much more like a real amp does to things like knob rolling, volume, edge of breakup stuff, etc. The VERY BIG drawback is, once you've made a profile of an amp at specific settings, that's it.

Of course you get all the normal adjustment knobs you normally would, Gain, EQ, Presence, etc. BUT the more you adjust, the more "Digital" it's going to start to sound because the "Profiler" doesn't KNOW how the specific amp that was profiled will react to those changes. That is why, when you buy "Profiles" from all the professional "Profiling" experts, they usually come with hundreds upon hundreds of different profiles of different tweaks of the amp. It's QUITE overwhelming at times that's for sure.


Kemper about to change the game. This announcement kind of fell under the radar but they will be releasing "Liquid Profiling" in a future (Free) software update.

What they will be doing is adding in the ability to "Model" the more popular amps. So, let's say I download a professionally "Profiled" Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier Rev G.

Once the software update is released, I'll be able to add the "Modeled" Triple Rectifier Rev G Liquid Profile that that already created Profile of the actual amp and when I do, all of the controls on my Kemper Profiler will actually REACT like the actual controls on the amp itself without losing that "Real amp feel" that profilers are known for

I understand your excitement. And I thank you for teaching me the difference between modelling and profiling. I think profiling sounds like the shit. I am a single channel tube guy that just rolls the volume on the guitar for a clean. Sounds like profiling is already there for me.

 

[guitarnate2000]

I understand your excitement. And I thank you for teaching me the difference between modelling and profiling. I think profiling sounds like the shit. I am a single channel tube guy that just rolls the volume on the guitar for a clean. Sounds like profiling is already there for me.

Glad I could help!