Mesa Boogie Mark V clip.

[Digital Jams]

That sounded great. I tried a MkV locally to see how it stood up to my C+. Nice amp but doesn't have quite the tone or the feel mostly.
But I can't see that modded Marshall standing up to that tone. I'd grab a Mk III or a IIc and get a C+ upgrade. Don't care for the Mk IV though. Too smooth or something and it doesn't cut through as well. YMMV

Yeah, Boogie claims the V has the same exact circuitry as the IIC+. But they claim a lot of bullshit, the Mark V manual is full of a lot of marketing nonsense.

But, listen to Ralphs Fortin clip.

Ralphie is on fire on that

 

[thiswaythatway]

That sounded great. I tried a MkV locally to see how it stood up to my C+. Nice amp but doesn't have quite the tone or the feel mostly.
But I can't see that modded Marshall standing up to that tone. I'd grab a Mk III or a IIc and get a C+ upgrade. Don't care for the Mk IV though. Too smooth or something and it doesn't cut through as well. YMMV

Yeah, Boogie claims the V has the same exact circuitry as the IIC+. But they claim a lot of bullshit, the Mark V manual is full of a lot of marketing nonsense.

But, listen to Ralphs Fortin clip.

Ralphie is on fire on that

Here, let me try out my Mesa Boogie marketing chops.

" Switch to channel 3 screaming. You're greeted by a molton lava explosion of lucious hazy gain, accurately spread across the harmonic spectrum to encompass the intricate picking details of the most scrutinous player.

Channel 1 is bubbley, bouncy, with the crystalline clean detail that only 6L6 tubes in all their glory can deliver across an output wide enough to cover Peter North's cock.

 

[Gainfreak]

That sounded great. I tried a MkV locally to see how it stood up to my C+. Nice amp but doesn't have quite the tone or the feel mostly.
But I can't see that modded Marshall standing up to that tone. I'd grab a Mk III or a IIc and get a C+ upgrade. Don't care for the Mk IV though. Too smooth or something and it doesn't cut through as well. YMMV

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

 

[Gainfreak]

Killer clip Danny and that is my favorite Boston solo

 

[mesanatic]

Yeah that sounds good too. Sounds easy to play, not that I could come close to that. I still like the IIc+ tone even though you have to work harder to play it like a old Marshall. It stays open and big. Sorta dominates the mix.
That Fortin reminds me of the Camerons. They get a little thinner with the gain and compression. Still good but I think I like those Friedman mods on the Lugo shootout more.
I guess I don't use as much gain as I used to.

And yeah Mesa needs to cut the crap and make a Mk amp that does clean/high gain and sells itself. "cover Peter Norths cock"

 

[mesanatic]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

 

[Digital Jams]

Yeah that sounds good too. Sounds easy to play, not that I could come close to that. I still like the IIc+ tone even though you have to work harder to play it like a old Marshall. It stays open and big. Sorta dominates the mix.
That Fortin reminds me of the Camerons. They get a little thinner with the gain and compression. Still good but I think I like those Friedman mods on the Lugo shootout more.
I guess I don't use as much gain as I used to.

And yeah Mesa needs to cut the crap and make a Mk amp that does clean/high gain and sells itself. "cover Peter Norths cock"

I was lucky enough to be in the same room with 2 killer camerons and several Fortins and they are different amps. The Fortins do not get thin and the real crazy thing is how tight and focused they are at stupid volume levels....they just do not fall apart.

You have to play one to believe it, only thing I can suggest.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Ralph can be of more help but i believe you can adjust the amount of compression so you can that open sound from the Fortins if you wanted.

And i agree with you, the older Mark II Boogies and some III's had a more alive or raw sound than the IV and V.

 

[Gainfreak]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Wassup! I definitely like the old school tone as well The clip I did is of the Fortin Bones amp but the amp I now have is the Cali Mod. (I love both the bones and cali!! hell I like all of Mikes amps!!)
The Cali definitely has more of that Old school tone! I think that you would dig it because it has that killer old school midrange and its fun as hell to play! The earlier Marks are defnitely my faves and I agree with you 100% that the MKII's and III's just kill!
I didn't mean for my post to sound like I was ragging on ya! I just wanted to state that the Cali mod could cop a killer tone!!

Hope all is well!
Ralph

 

[Gainfreak]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Ralph can be of more help but i believe you can adjust the amount of compression so you can that open sound from the Fortins if you wanted.

And i agree with you, the older Mark II Boogies and some III's had a more alive or raw sound than the IV and V.

The Fortins are definitely more open sounding and you can control the amount of compression or sag on the Cali Mod.
Im just happy with the Cali mod because it gives me the type of tone Im looking for without having to screw around with EQ plus I can actually hear the split coild on my guitar when I use it whereas the Boogs tended to mask that.
Im totally not anti Boogie lol I just found something that's given me the type of sound I hear in my head in an easier package

 

[thiswaythatway]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Ralph can be of more help but i believe you can adjust the amount of compression so you can that open sound from the Fortins if you wanted.

And i agree with you, the older Mark II Boogies and some III's had a more alive or raw sound than the IV and V.

The Fortins are definitely more open sounding and you can control the amount of compression or sag on the Cali Mod.
Im just happy with the Cali mod because it gives me the type of tone Im looking for without having to screw around with EQ plus I can actually hear the split coild on my guitar when I use it whereas the Boogs tended to mask that.
Im totally not anti Boogie lol I just found something that's given me the type of sound I hear in my head in an easier package

Sag, screw, splits, mask, package. Are we still talking about amps.

 

[mesanatic]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Ralph can be of more help but i believe you can adjust the amount of compression so you can that open sound from the Fortins if you wanted.

And i agree with you, the older Mark II Boogies and some III's had a more alive or raw sound than the IV and V.

The Fortins are definitely more open sounding and you can control the amount of compression or sag on the Cali Mod.
Im just happy with the Cali mod because it gives me the type of tone Im looking for without having to screw around with EQ plus I can actually hear the split coild on my guitar when I use it whereas the Boogs tended to mask that.
Im totally not anti Boogie lol I just found something that's given me the type of sound I hear in my head in an easier package

Hey all's well. That's cool I know you're digging your new amp. Adjusting compression, now that's a cool feature.
I'm just liking Dan's clip and realizing I like that lower gain tone more now. Just my personal preference which is why I like say, an Einstien more than a Herbert or VH4. Or on the Lugo shootout those Friedman mods impressed me enough to mod one of my Marshalls.
Checked some clips and that Cali mod is more my style than the Bones. It's a great feeling and more fun to play when you find Your amp, isn't it. I'm closing in on mine. Now if only I could play as well as you and Dan.

 

[Gainfreak]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Ralph can be of more help but i believe you can adjust the amount of compression so you can that open sound from the Fortins if you wanted.

And i agree with you, the older Mark II Boogies and some III's had a more alive or raw sound than the IV and V.

The Fortins are definitely more open sounding and you can control the amount of compression or sag on the Cali Mod.
Im just happy with the Cali mod because it gives me the type of tone Im looking for without having to screw around with EQ plus I can actually hear the split coild on my guitar when I use it whereas the Boogs tended to mask that.
Im totally not anti Boogie lol I just found something that's given me the type of sound I hear in my head in an easier package

Sag, screw, splits, mask, package. Are we still talking about amps.

When were we ever talking about amps?

 

[Gainfreak]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Ralph can be of more help but i believe you can adjust the amount of compression so you can that open sound from the Fortins if you wanted.

And i agree with you, the older Mark II Boogies and some III's had a more alive or raw sound than the IV and V.

The Fortins are definitely more open sounding and you can control the amount of compression or sag on the Cali Mod.
Im just happy with the Cali mod because it gives me the type of tone Im looking for without having to screw around with EQ plus I can actually hear the split coild on my guitar when I use it whereas the Boogs tended to mask that.
Im totally not anti Boogie lol I just found something that's given me the type of sound I hear in my head in an easier package

Hey all's well. That's cool I know you're digging your new amp. Adjusting compression, now that's a cool feature.
I'm just liking Dan's clip and realizing I like that lower gain tone more now. Just my personal preference which is why I like say, an Einstien more than a Herbert or VH4. Or on the Lugo shootout those Friedman mods impressed me enough to mod one of my Marshalls.
Checked some clips and that Cali mod is more my style than the Bones. It's a great feeling and more fun to play when you find Your amp, isn't it. I'm closing in on mine. Now if only I could play as well as you and Dan.

I hear you! What I like about the Cali mod is that it has a stock Marshall setting, so when I get tired of setting the amp to stun, I can put it in that Mode and have some fun.
That's great that you are getting Dave to work on your amp. In this day and age its great that we have so many options. I would have killed to have these guys available back in the day when I wasn't an old fart!!
With that said, Thanks for the kind words about my playing but I'm pretty sure that you kick ass your darn self!!!

 

[thiswaythatway]

Ive been a mesa boogie user since the late 80's. Ive owned a IIC+ I currently own a MKIII coli head and a MKIV and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Fortin Modded Marshall I have can stand up to the boogie tone no problem !. Id also be willing to say that a 100watt Cali modded Marshall would decimate a Mark series boogie in a live situation as far as cutting goes and it will out volume it withought getting mushy no problem. Now take into consideration that I am a HUGE mark series fan and I don't say these things lightly!! Ive been using my MKIV religously since 1992 and its taken me until 2009 to switch over! needless to say, my Boogs aren't going anywhere but given the fact that I amd EXTREMELY familiar with Boogies and I have both amps in front of me I can definitely comment that the Fortin can cop those tones and more.
All the best!!
~R~

I believe you. I know you're a devout Boogie man. I guess I like an old school tone more. That Cali mod is a modern high gainer for sure. Definitely a different flavor from the Mk's. I never said it would mush out but every high gainer gets more compressed is all. As far as cut I was comparing the IV to the Mk II and III, that fortin obviously cuts through very well. I don't even like the Mk IV. Not as aggressive as the earlier Mk's.
And that was awsome playing by the way as usual.

Ralph can be of more help but i believe you can adjust the amount of compression so you can that open sound from the Fortins if you wanted.

And i agree with you, the older Mark II Boogies and some III's had a more alive or raw sound than the IV and V.

The Fortins are definitely more open sounding and you can control the amount of compression or sag on the Cali Mod.
Im just happy with the Cali mod because it gives me the type of tone Im looking for without having to screw around with EQ plus I can actually hear the split coild on my guitar when I use it whereas the Boogs tended to mask that.
Im totally not anti Boogie lol I just found something that's given me the type of sound I hear in my head in an easier package

Hey all's well. That's cool I know you're digging your new amp. Adjusting compression, now that's a cool feature.
I'm just liking Dan's clip and realizing I like that lower gain tone more now. Just my personal preference which is why I like say, an Einstien more than a Herbert or VH4. Or on the Lugo shootout those Friedman mods impressed me enough to mod one of my Marshalls.
Checked some clips and that Cali mod is more my style than the Bones. It's a great feeling and more fun to play when you find Your amp, isn't it. I'm closing in on mine. Now if only I could play as well as you and Dan.

I actually put the gain to about 9 on the IIC+, or 5:30.

I wanted to try an Einstein but there's really none close to me.

 

[shreder75]

sounds great, man
Boston is one of my favorite bands too, especially the first album

 

[mesanatic]

I actually put the gain to about 9 on the IIC+, or 5:30.

I wanted to try an Einstein but there's really none close to me.

On that Mk V clip. Well I guess the C+ mode is lower gain now. Just kidding but really it sounded tight. That's one good thing about the Mk's.
I got lucky a few months back at Boston Guitar Center. They had an Einstien and Herbert next to each other. My son and I had a good time in there. Only customers in the store on a weekday. He's a high gain lover and he loved the Einstien too. Ch.1 mode three was great for leads and Ch. 2 for any metal riffing or rhythm. A lot of $$$ though for a working stiff like me.

 

[thegame]

That sounded great. I tried a MkV locally to see how it stood up to my C+. Nice amp but doesn't have quite the tone or the feel mostly.
But I can't see that modded Marshall standing up to that tone. I'd grab a Mk III or a IIc and get a C+ upgrade. Don't care for the Mk IV though. Too smooth or something and it doesn't cut through as well. YMMV

Yeah, Boogie claims the V has the same exact circuitry as the IIC+. But they claim a lot of bullshit, the Mark V manual is full of a lot of marketing nonsense.

For me it was pretty obvious from the start the V and IIC+ do NOT have the same circuitry. All push/pulls eliminated and the IIC+'s Volume 1 & Lead Drive controls paired down to a single gain control ? All the micro-tweakability of the IIC+ gone !

I'll bet the V'S reverb doesn't interact with the lead channel gain voicing like it does on the C + as well.

 

[blackba]

I thought the clip sounded good. I am not sure how to get that one, I assume you used a delay and recording the leads twice, with one being the harmony part

How does the bass response of the mark V compare with the mark IV? I sometimes find the mark IV to be lacking in bass without the EQ compared to some of my other amps, depends alot on the guitar of course....

 

[Les Zombie]

Im being honest when i say this danny, i thought your clip and playing was great, its too bad the amp didnt work out for you, definately one of the better mkv clips i have heard, i bet it helps sell a few amps.