Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier Reborn - Speaker Comparison

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Hi there!

Here's another speaker comparison with the Grossmann SG-Box.
This time with the Triple Rectifier.
Mics: Sm57, Sennheiser e 906



Cheers,
Simon
 
Simon Dorn":ax1df704 said:
Hi there!

Here's another speaker comparison with the Grossmann SG-Box.
This time with the Triple Rectifier.
Mics: Sm57, Sennheiser e 906



Cheers,
Simon
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V30 - :rock:

The rest are not so good.
The 2nd one sounds like a 500 pack of napkins was layed over the speaker.
The last one isn't too bad, but the V30 sounds mean and open.
 
Did you Re-EQ the amp for each speaker or keep the same settings?
 
I think i dialed it in for the V30s... :)
I kept the same settings for all the speakers.
Cheers,
Simon
 
Great video!

I also have a Triple rec. I was running it through a Splawn 4x12 with 2 Celestion Alnico Golds and two Classic Leads, sounded great. I just got a new cab and the amp sounds terrible through it, compared to the old one. The new one is the same as the old, but with 2 v30's and 2 Creambacks. I've been using an Audix i5. It's either too fizzy or too dark, I can't find that sweet spot. I've been moving the mic all over the place, messing with knobs, messing with EQ's in the loop and I just can't get a good sound out of it. I'm using an Audix i5 on the new cab and an e906 on the old, but I've gotten a good sound from the old cab with the i5 plenty of times. I plan on getting another e906 to see how that works on it. I'd try my current 906 but I'm too afraid of losing the current position on the old cab, lol.
 
Well thats probably the problem im hearing. The V30's sound best because you dialed the amp to them.
It would be be pure serendipity that those settings would work for other speakers and usually thats never the case.
Thanks for the effort of posting this, I just dont find it very useful as its biased towards the V30's
 
Thanks! Sometimes it's bit a hard with the Mesa and the fizz is annoying, but it's great in a mix. It breathes. Don't be afraid to move your 906. Keep the mic flat and try a position like: half of the mic on the dust cab, the other half on the membrane.
 
Yeah, will be very interesting if can you dial the amp to sound so good with the other speakers as it sounds with the actual V30's. But according to my not so great experience with the Rectifier's, I believe that Rectifiers and V30's belong to each other...
 
guitarman967":1qxjtq64 said:
Well thats probably the problem im hearing. The V30's sound best because you dialed the amp to them.
It would be be pure serendipity that those settings would work for other speakers and usually thats never the case.
Thanks for the effort of posting this, I just dont find it very useful as its biased towards the V30's
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You need a reference... :)
 
Petrucci":2rtqlt7n said:
Yeah, will be very interesting if can you dial the amp to sound so good with the other speakers as it sounds with the actual V30's. But according to my not so great experience with the Rectifier's, I believe that Rectifiers and V30's belong to each other...
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They do!
 
benduncan":bzuk0ez4 said:
Great video!

I also have a Triple rec. I was running it through a Splawn 4x12 with 2 Celestion Alnico Golds and two Classic Leads, sounded great. I just got a new cab and the amp sounds terrible through it, compared to the old one. The new one is the same as the old, but with 2 v30's and 2 Creambacks. I've been using an Audix i5. It's either too fizzy or too dark, I can't find that sweet spot. I've been moving the mic all over the place, messing with knobs, messing with EQ's in the loop and I just can't get a good sound out of it. I'm using an Audix i5 on the new cab and an e906 on the old, but I've gotten a good sound from the old cab with the i5 plenty of times. I plan on getting another e906 to see how that works on it. I'd try my current 906 but I'm too afraid of losing the current position on the old cab, lol.
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I like your Rhodes modded Mesa clip!
 
I like the V30 the best followed closely by the G12K-100. Which is strange because I usually don't like the G12K-100 very much. Great video sir.
 
guitarman967":5tpdrnhn said:
Well thats probably the problem im hearing. The V30's sound best because you dialed the amp to them.
It would be be pure serendipity that those settings would work for other speakers and usually thats never the case.
Thanks for the effort of posting this, I just dont find it very useful as its biased towards the V30's
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EQ isn't going to alter the core tone here.
This disparity in general tone is easy to hear.
It's not just an eq thing.
 
The Traveller":cg7kbros said:
I like the V30 the best followed closely by the G12K-100. Which is strange because I usually don't like the G12K-100 very much. Great video sir.
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Thank you, Mr. Traveller! :)
 
C1-ocaster":bn7zsxec said:
guitarman967":bn7zsxec said:
Well thats probably the problem im hearing. The V30's sound best because you dialed the amp to them.
It would be be pure serendipity that those settings would work for other speakers and usually thats never the case.
Thanks for the effort of posting this, I just dont find it very useful as its biased towards the V30's
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EQ isn't going to alter the core tone here.
This disparity in general tone is easy to hear.
It's not just an eq thing.
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So if any other speaker was EQ'd with the amplifier (as its meant to be) then theyre be no difference in the perceived core sound quality? Its an unrealistic comparison.
The un-EQ'ed examples tell me nothing.
Of course they sound like theyre buried under a 1,000 napkins like one post said.. thats what the EQ is for.
The speaker isnt a separate entity, its part of the amplifier.
Maybe im missing something here and for that I apologize but again only the EQ'd speaker clip is worth a shit as far as getting a sense of how its gonna actually sound in real world applications.
 
Simon Dorn":3fw0py14 said:
guitarman967":3fw0py14 said:
Well thats probably the problem im hearing. The V30's sound best because you dialed the amp to them.
It would be be pure serendipity that those settings would work for other speakers and usually thats never the case.
Thanks for the effort of posting this, I just dont find it very useful as its biased towards the V30's
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You need a reference... :)
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Ok, then set the controls on the amp flat.. all at noon. Thats a reference. If one speaker has been optimized and the others have not, wheres the scientific control?
 
guitarman967":3nl3twve said:
Simon Dorn":3nl3twve said:
guitarman967":3nl3twve said:
Well thats probably the problem im hearing. The V30's sound best because you dialed the amp to them.
It would be be pure serendipity that those settings would work for other speakers and usually thats never the case.
Thanks for the effort of posting this, I just dont find it very useful as its biased towards the V30's
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You need a reference... :)
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Ok, then set the controls on the amp flat.. all at noon. Thats a reference. If one speaker has been optimized and the others have not, wheres the scientific control?
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That would sound crappy! I don't give a fuck about science - IT'S MUSIC ;)
 
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