Mesa Stiletto Trident II vs Splawn Quick Rod 50

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I have an opportunity to snag one of these at a really good price but unfortunately I can’t play them as they’re out of town and would be shipped.

Can anyone shed the pros and cons?

I know they’re both takes on modded Marshall’s but which one is more versatile, reliable, harmonically rich, more upper mid aggression, modern, etc…
 
I've played both - I actually have a Stage II Stiletto Deuce at my house right now, and I really like it. I've been underwhelmed by the Splawns in general, and QR50 was...fine. I think the Stiletto is considerably better for me, but it's NOT a Marshall, more like if a Recto and a Silver Jubilee had a baby.
 
Stiletto Deuce Stage I owner here. I haven’t played a Stage II but I’m really enjoying my Stage I. Just dial it in with you ears (not your eyes) and you'll be all good. Also, try switching on the FX loop, turning the send knob up to the + marker and then use the Output knob as a master volume. It lets you run the channel masters at noon or higher which seems to warm the tone up.
 
I've played both - I actually have a Stage II Stiletto Deuce at my house right now, and I really like it. I've been underwhelmed by the Splawns in general, and QR50 was...fine. I think the Stiletto is considerably better for me, but it's NOT a Marshall, more like if a Recto and a Silver Jubilee had a baby.
The Stiletto Deuce II is an absolute beast. I've had a couple, no complaints!
 
Stiletto Deuce Stage I owner here. I haven’t played a Stage II but I’m really enjoying my Stage I. Just dial it in with you ears (not your eyes) and you'll be all good. Also, try switching on the FX loop, turning the send knob up to the + marker and then use the Output knob as a master volume. It lets you run the channel masters at noon or higher which seems to warm the tone up.
Do you have to engage the loop to use the send-level?
On the rectifiers you can use the send-level even if the loop is not engaged, but obviously the loop can not be in bypass mode either.

I always think they sound better with the send-level up past noon a bit, the channel volume up at least to the point it "kicks-in" at around 10:00, and then like you said use the Output as the final volume control.
 
Do you have to engage the loop to use the send-level?
On the rectifiers you can use the send-level even if the loop is not engaged, but obviously the loop can not be in bypass mode either.

I always think they sound better with the send-level up past noon a bit, the channel volume up at least to the point it "kicks-in" at around 10:00, and then like you said use the Output as the final volume control.
I have the loop engaged but no pedals running though it. It doesn’t seem to suck any tone though… Might work equally well with it off, but I’d need to check that
 
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The Stage II Stiletto Deuce is the only Mesa amp I've ever owned that I just didn't like at all. I thought mine had something wrong with it, but I had all the tubes replaced and had a tech look over it. The guy I ended up selling it to loved it, for me it had no low-end, felt super undergained and was just incredibly bright unless you cranked the fuck out of it. Yuck.

Quickrod is a beast and an amp I'd love to have again. Compared to my Deuce, and every actual good clip I've heard of them, it wouldn't even be a competition. I'd pick the QR every single time ?‍♂️
 
I have a Stiletto Trident II and several Quickrod 100's.

I know I sound like a broken record but with the Splawns, you have to be aware of the specific year. Anything after 2012 has the more open/modern circuit, with very recent ones adding a few extra options too (new/old, B+, etc). 2007-2012 has a much darker, rolled off sound, which I really like for some things but is definitely not the best option for some types of music and is probably where the "honky mids" reputation comes from. 2005-2006 were much brighter again, similar to the 2012+ circuit but with less bass, and of course early 2005 without the gears but I haven't owned one of those (yet). They are all superb amps but they are very different sounding amps despite sharing the same "Quickrod" name.

Either way though, these are not super comparable amps other than both being high gain heads. Totally different ballpark. The Trident, despite all of the marketing materials and online conjecture, is essentially a Rectifier circuit with a few different values/switches and shipped with EL34's (but can run either 6L6 or EL34 just like any recto can). It has less bass than a recto at the same settings, but has that trademark flatness or looseness in the low end which I mostly hear when playing low overdriven palm-mute stuff where it benefits from a boost to tighten up. It does sound different from a recto obviously, but that DNA is ever present, so if you like that kind of thing it's a very cool flavor of that style. However, a British-style modded Marshall it is not.

The Splawns on the other hand, depending on the year, are much tighter and the palm mutes a bit punchier. However the voicing, I'd say on any of them, I don't think is really meant for a classic Marshall substitute. You can get by in Gear 1 with the gain down but remember without modding, with the 4-button footswitch, you can only switch between Gear 1->2 or Gear 2->3, so no jumping from Gear 1 in a "crunch" setting to Gear 3 in a "lead" setting. Depending on the year the clean channel can go from pretty decent, to basically a dirty crunch channel if it's an early one where the overdrive gain control affects both channels.

So I guess the important question is, what type of music do you intend to use it for? I love my Stiletto but if you told me you wanted to play some Whitesnake or something, I'd probably tell you to get a Splawn instead. On the other hand, the Stiletto feels a little more versatile to me, it can do a passable impression of 90s recto tones, a little bit of more mids-forward stuff if you want, throw in a boost and it can do tight modern metal, and has the far better clean channel if desired.

Or just do what I did and get one of each....
 
The things people usually complain about the stiletto are ice picky highs and a lack of bass. The latter probably comes from people playing rectos. If you want to cure the ice pick highs, get some tubes that run a hotter bias. If you want more bass, get some 6ca7 instead of el34.
I`ve never played a stiletto, but I wouldn`t dich the amp before trying some hotter 6ca7 in the poweramp.
 
The things people usually complain about the stiletto are ice picky highs and a lack of bass. The latter probably comes from people playing rectos. If you want to cure the ice pick highs, get some tubes that run a hotter bias. If you want more bass, get some 6ca7 instead of el34.
I`ve never played a stiletto, but I wouldn`t dich the amp before trying some hotter 6ca7 in the poweramp.
I would agree with everything you said and I'll add to be careful which speaker you pair it with I had an Ace combo with a vintage 30 and it was totally the wrong speaker for that amp imo. Way too shrill.
 
The things people usually complain about the stiletto are ice picky highs and a lack of bass. The latter probably comes from people playing rectos. If you want to cure the ice pick highs, get some tubes that run a hotter bias. If you want more bass, get some 6ca7 instead of el34.
I`ve never played a stiletto, but I wouldn`t dich the amp before trying some hotter 6ca7 in the poweramp.
Yeah, I put JJ 6CA7's in the last one I had. It was loud and punchy.
 
I would agree with everything you said and I'll add to be careful which speaker you pair it with I had an Ace combo with a vintage 30 and it was totally the wrong speaker for that amp imo. Way too shrill.
That’s a really good point re: speakers - you need to be a little careful I think. I run my Stiletto through Greenbacks (H55) and it sounds great. I can definitely see that a V30 would be pretty harsh sounding.
 
I’d take the Mesa because it’s 100 watts . Don’t like 50 watts
 
I owned the Stilletto Ace head twice and it was a great amp, but I like either the Splawn Quickrod or Competition better for my needs...
 
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