Microphone recommendation for Diezel in live use

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Im using E906. Cannot really comment is it the best option, but at least very user friendly.
 
I would avoid condensers, specially for live

Heil PR30, Sm7, Sm57, is what I would reccomend.
 
Sm57 or the e906. I have lots of experience with both and the e906 can get killer sounds. I agree no condensers too much potential for issues.
 
I've been doing stuff with multiple 57's and the e906.

I recommend the e906 very much over the 57's.

it just plain sounds better, and the 57's sound scooped.
 
for live use i always use both the sm57 and e906 in the mix with my vh4 with g12k100.
much better than just one mic.

chris
 
DvE":3amh5x8p said:
Put the Master up -> no mic needed :D
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well put. But if a mic is needed, SM57, Senn 421 or Audix I5 work great. Ive also used AT4050 with much luck
 
sm 57 doesn't work that well with the herb. even the sm 58 does a better job with the herb.
the e906 directly facing the loudspeaker works really nice!
audio technica also has nice stuff (the ae 2500 is great, but 600euros...)
 
Thank you guys for your great help. What issues do you expect with condensers? Feedback or do you think they are not robust enough on stage (volume, mechanical robustness)? I heard that they sound more balanced than e. g. a sm57.
 
i have used condensors a bunch. Never had any issues with them. Whether it be an AT or even an RE20...sounded great!

And IMHO the Herbie sounds just ducky with a 57. 900000 soundmen would agree. LOL. I love the Sennheiser E stuff but to me they have a funky mid hump that you just cant dial out.
 
Audioholic":1xxau2hm said:
I would avoid condensers, specially for live

Heil PR30, Sm7, Sm57, is what I would reccomend.
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The Heil PR30 seemed to work well with my VH4. SM57 also
 
Steve D.":xiqd29h2 said:
Thank you guys for your great help. What issues do you expect with condensers? Feedback or do you think they are not robust enough on stage (volume, mechanical robustness)? I heard that they sound more balanced than e. g. a sm57.
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My experience with condensers live is limited. I use them in the studio quite a bit though and here's my concerns. Condensers generally pick up ALOT of ambient noise. Stage stomping rings through easily. If you're too close to the drums they'll bleed a bit. You also have to make sure the mixer supports phantom and that the soundman (some aren't so bright) turns on the phantom power. They're relatively fragile in transit, or on stage (if you drop it or kick it). A dynamic will usually still work even if you throw it down on concrete and run it over with a mack truck. Most condensers I've tried sound a little "sterile" to me, but thats a whole other topic with much debate. They're also usually more sensitive to SPL than a dynamic (easier to damage). Anyways, I don't own a herbert, and I'm sure many guitarists have good luck with them.. Again just my 2 cents.
 
I made the mistake of using a condenser live once, and It picked up the amp great, but also the drums, the bass, even though they were a bit away. So you will run into picking up not only your amp, but a good deal of whats around it as well. Just the nature of condensers.

A good dynamic will do a much better job at isolation live for sure.
 
Thank you gentlemen for all your input. We experimented with my new E906 the other day and I liked how it sounds very much from the beginning.
 
Senn 421 is the best mic out there IMHO for guitar. Mixed with a sm57 you have a perfect match.
 
How come you all don't use the Diezel compensated out?
I have been using it rather then my Sennheisers, and the sound is just as it is coming right off the speakers. I have never had any problems using the comp out on any of my Diezels.

Also, any sound person who has done our sound previously, has always asked me to use the comp out when they do our sound again.
Just curious.
Stephen
 
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