Might be time to sell my PRS CE-22. Sad to say....

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I'll tell ya, my PRS is becoming unusable in a jam or live situation.

I have gotten uses to using the neck pickup for clean tones. I roll the volume down till the neck pickup is clean and when I want a clean tone I just switch to the neck pickup, no need to hit the pedalboard. I love that. Problem with the PRS, is no neck volume. Maybe I could sell my CE22 and get a DGT since they were smart to have two volume controls on the DGT....or I stick 100% with

Right now I am only using my LP's and my SG.

Although since I don't have a strat any longer and don't really like strats I might keep my CE around for the single coil like tones. They sound as good on this guitar as the strat I sold.

Shame because I was going to install some new Duncans and change the 5 way rotary to a toggle and split pots, but what is the point if I don't have a neck volume. Don't know what PRS was thinking when they decided to make a ton of guitars without a neck volume
 
Don't have the room on my board and don't want another pedal, LOL.
Plus I want my foot free to hit an effect like chorus or delay when I switch to the neck pickup.
 
Replace the tone pot with a second volume pot? And hardwire a resistor to keep the pickups seeing the same total value at the pots (if you end up not liking the tonal response after taking out the tone pot)?

Or don't they make concentric pots that allow you to have two settings in one?
 
Drill a hole and add another volume knob if you really like the guitar. Is there a big enough cavity in the back?
 
I have a few guitars with 2 volumes and a few with 1 volume- the theory being that the 1volume is a more direct wired/pure tone
Bad reason to dump an otherwise cherished guitar!
 
I think what I am going to do is replace my Dragons with a Duncan 59/Custom hybrid and 59, split pots and toggle and convert the tone pot to a volume pot, since this will give me what I want on the neck. I will lose the tone knob but I will survive. :)

Concentric pots? I will look into it. :thumbsup:

THANKS! I think what would be great is to have a concentric pot in place of the tone so this could control tone and volume for neck and then the bridge volume I could use as the split pot to split both pickups at once. It would be nice to have the ability to split one pickup at a time but my favorite split tone is the middle position and I tend to stay on that an entire song and use my boost to increase volume. I never switch between humbuckers and singles or split tones within a song due to volume changes.

I love the guitar and can't see selling it and man I have thought about drilling a hole for a volume knob.

"the theory being that the 1volume is a more direct wired/pure tone"? Is that true? I see PRS starting to make more guitars with two volume pots now and they sounds GREAT! Maybe the best solution is to use a concentric pot for the tone pot and use a split pot for the bridge volume although those dpdt pots are not the best quality.

OR...I appreciate this guitar for what it is. :D

Thanks guys.
 
Bourns makes push/pull pots that will take care of your bridge volume and split need. CTS does concentrics that can solve the neck volume issue. Don't give up on an old friend.
 
I have seen some debate among the cork sniffers about the quality of any pot that has additional functions, i.e. push/pull, concentric, etc. At the end of the day, if adding the functions you need to a guitar that you love means a minimal compromise in the quality of the pot (assuming that there actually IS a compromise)... that still seems like the best option. I have never used a concentric, but I have the bourns push/pulls in a few of my guitars and they don't cause me any loss of satisfaction.
 
Thanks all! I may end up just going the simplest route. I don't use single coil tones within the same song so I am find having just one pot to split both pickups at once. So, I am thinking keep the volume pot stock, replace tone pot with dpdt split pot and install a toggle where the 5 way rotary is. I really only use the middle split position on the 5 way and I can get close with a middle on the humbucker or split middle so this will get me that and as far as using the neck for clean with the volume rolled down, I could either skip that or use a concentric pot. If I go that route I will do as you suggested and use both the Bourns and concentric. A buddy of mine suggested I keep it simple and treat this guitar differently than my others. :)
 
Hahaha...very funny.

I am so glad I got some feedback from the forum. Big help guys and in hindsight it was silly of me to consider selling a great guitar over the controls. This guitar out lasted my Custom 22 and McCarty, that is how sweet this PRS is. If I ever get another PRS, it may be another CE-22, they are that good.

Answer me this, having two volume pots and no tone, does that completely change the response and feel of the pickups?

Worst case, I will leave it master tone and volume and if all else fails I put it back to stock Dragons and maybe even keep the rotary because my current split tones with Dragons and 5 way are as good as a strat. Hate to lose that. Maybe instead I grab another CE 22 in a year or so and do that one up with Duncans and toggle.

I need to see how the CC or 59/Custom perform in this guitar in the band setting and split tones.
 
I've changed a McCarty to a dual-volume setup with a coil tap on the neck volume and got rid of the tone control, works great ;)
I dont use tone controls at all, just having the cap in the circuit shaves the slightest bit of highs even when wide open IMO. I always remove the tone control and cap from the circuit. Volume controls are a different story, I use them constantly. Its all personal preferance.
Stick with a quality pot for the job and it will be fine. I've heard some folks mention a tone difference between a P/P pot and a standard, but I cant hear it myself. Maybe it was the particular brand pot they used
I would not let go of a tried and true axe because of a resolveable switching issue, its too easy to change
 
JTyson":3ls1g1pq said:
I've changed a McCarty to a dual-volume setup with a coil tap on the neck volume and got rid of the tone control, works great ;)
I dont use tone controls at all, just having the cap in the circuit shaves the slightest bit of highs even when wide open IMO. I always remove the tone control and cap from the circuit. Volume controls are a different story, I use them constantly. Its all personal preferance.
Stick with a quality pot for the job and it will be fine. I've heard some folks mention a tone difference between a P/P pot and a standard, but I cant hear it myself. Maybe it was the particular brand pot they used
I would not let go of a tried and true axe because of a resolveable switching issue, its too easy to change
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Messing with a good sounding guitar always scares me! You never know how it can change for the worse. I can always go back stock though, ya know! I actually like that my PRS is a little dark! I don;t want to lose that so maybe I will leave it alone but change the tone pot for a push/pull tone pot and replace the 5 way with a toggle switch.

I am NOT getting rid of this guitar. :)

Since we are not gigging yet, I am not changing anything yet...not even the PRS Dragon pickups. Since the bridge Dragon can be so hot...I might just swap in a Rio BBQ or something.
 
richedie":36x6pw30 said:
JTyson":36x6pw30 said:
I've changed a McCarty to a dual-volume setup with a coil tap on the neck volume and got rid of the tone control, works great ;)
I dont use tone controls at all, just having the cap in the circuit shaves the slightest bit of highs even when wide open IMO. I always remove the tone control and cap from the circuit. Volume controls are a different story, I use them constantly. Its all personal preferance.
Stick with a quality pot for the job and it will be fine. I've heard some folks mention a tone difference between a P/P pot and a standard, but I cant hear it myself. Maybe it was the particular brand pot they used
I would not let go of a tried and true axe because of a resolveable switching issue, its too easy to change
Click to expand...

Messing with a good sounding guitar always scares me! You never know how it can change for the worse. I can always go back stock though, ya know! I actually like that my PRS is a little dark! I don;t want to lose that so maybe I will leave it alone but change the tone pot for a push/pull tone pot and replace the 5 way with a toggle switch.

I am NOT getting rid of this guitar. :)

Since we are not gigging yet, I am not changing anything yet...not even the PRS Dragon pickups. Since the bridge Dragon can be so hot...I might just swap in a Rio BBQ or something.
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I like the options of the 5 way sw, but could not really get used to it, I've always had the toggle. I'm old and dont like change :lol: :LOL:
You could take out all the old stuff still wired together (except for the jack and pups) and just get 2 new volumes and a toggle, you'd still have the old stuff to drop-in should you decide to. I never felt the Dragons were too hot, they were pretty good, I prefered a little tighter on the bottom, and a little more definition in the mids for rhythm work. Its all personal preference ;)
Carry on :rock:
 
Oh, so you had the Dragons? What did you replace them with?
The more I practice with this band the more I realize I would probably stay on one pickup for an entire song and only change positions between songs so the 5 way rotary may be OK.

Only other bridge pickup I would use is the Rio BBQ bridge or Duncan 59/Custom.
 
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