Mills Acoustics guys in here

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Quick summary: i am selling one of my 5150 cabinets local here pretty soon - doing a buddy a favor. in the future i have been looking at another new cabinet to replace it loaded with V30s

these are all companies i have looked at, a few i have emailed, called, researched, etc.

splawn
stoneage
mills
lopoline
avatar
mojotone
suhr
THD


i never really hit the mills line being biased against mills oversize cabinets and their regular line being smaller than a normal cabinet and their website saying the smaller cabinets are only for vintage amplifiers. but after a few of Erics (Erock) clips i have a question - for guys who have played a regular marshall oversize cabinet vs a mills accoustics cabinet, did mills accoustics get rid of that woofy - untuned resonance problem that oversize cabinets have? do mill's oversize cabinets feel like a 29x29 cabinet or can you tell the amplifier's being fed into a huge cabinet at low volume? how would you rate the improvement at high volume?

the website does not say whether they are rear or front loaded, i assume rear loaded?

im starting to think i need to open up the possibilities to run an oversize cabinet. but now i cant really think of any reasons to be very negative about it when you factor in cost vs engineering done of other companies.

anything bad or good to say? their website isn't very descriptive so anything anyone has to share im all ears.
 
Bigger isn't always better.....

I own 2 4x12's and 3 2x12's with various speaker combinations. They are all in the closet. I much prefer the Bogner's. The Mills is a well built, and good quality cab. The oversized cab worked out great with Recto's and Mesa Mark Series amps. Otherwise, I find they suck the life out of other amps. I was greatly disappointed in the tone suck with the Bogner, Cameron and Marshall amps. The bottom end seemed to disappear. The V30's and K100's sound good in them with the Mesa's. Any amp though that you aren't intentionally scooping, you may have problems with.

This is my personal opinion and I should know. Spending quite a load on cabs and shipping to have them collecting dust. The Bogner cabs are the best I have used. If should have opted to try a standard sized Mills and would have probably been content.

Steve
 
donbarzini":1zbxopih said:
steve_k":1zbxopih said:
If should have opted to try a standard sized Mills and would have probably been content.

Steve

no, you wouldn't have been, been there done that.

You sir are not a Mill's man.
 
steve_k":2h3kcffz said:
Bigger isn't always better.....

I find they suck the life out of other amps. I was greatly disappointed in the tone suck with the Bogner, Cameron and Marshall amps.
Steve


Yup.
 
steve_k":1veowbgw said:
Bigger isn't always better.....

I own 2 4x12's and 3 2x12's with various speaker combinations. They are all in the closet. I much prefer the Bogner's. The Mills is a well built, and good quality cab. The oversized cab worked out great with Recto's and Mesa Mark Series amps. Otherwise, I find they suck the life out of other amps. I was greatly disappointed in the tone suck with the Bogner, Cameron and Marshall amps. The bottom end seemed to disappear. The V30's and K100's sound good in them with the Mesa's. Any amp though that you aren't intentionally scooping, you may have problems with.

This is my personal opinion and I should know. Spending quite a load on cabs and shipping to have them collecting dust. The Bogner cabs are the best I have used. If should have opted to try a standard sized Mills and would have probably been content.

Steve

I thought they sounded great with my CCV, Uberschalls, XTC/20th XTC, JVM, Nitro. It's just a matter of what you are trying achieve. I guess. One man's gold is another man's garbage. When I had the "holy grail" Cameron Jose, I played it through a Scumback built cab with M75 65ws and much prefered the Mills v30/k100 combo with that amp. Right now I have one Mills loaded with H55/H75LHDCs (and another set on the way for another cab) and I can't imagine a better cab for me. It sounds awesome with Marshall-style amps, and there is no lacking bottom end. That I wouldn't stand for either. For my Mark V, I'm using an all v30 Mills cab and couldn't be happier.

I love bogner Ubercabs too. I had 2 of them before I played them next to a Mills. They were sold shortly thereafter.
 
Mills cabs are as good as anything else out there. Better than anything else ? Not really, but its a very unique flavor that no other cab will do. My Mills cab is extremely lively, not sure about the sucking the life out of the tone comment. I enjoy my Bogners just as much as they have a character absent in the Mills.

Also the smaller Mills classic cab is not ONLY for vintage oriented amps. In fact, a modern high gainer will sound more cutting and focused with the smaller one, so some Metal players will prefer that. The bottom end on the oversized is 100 % tight and focused, but the mids/highs are open, airy, and project all over the room vs. the concentrated midrange focus of the smaller design.
 
yeah, they are great in the right combination. same with anything else. i suspect though that a conventional 68/69 spec marshall style cab of which everything else is built around is better suited for more amps than an afterburner or even a recto cab.

steve
 
donbarzini":2c0rtte7 said:
steve_k":2c0rtte7 said:
yeah, they are great in the right combination. same with anything else. i suspect though that a conventional 68/69 spec marshall style cab of which everything else is built around is better suited for more amps than an afterburner or even a recto cab.

steve

welcome to the family....

You already said that :confused:
 
donbarzini":38h9md6u said:
thegame":38h9md6u said:
donbarzini":38h9md6u said:
steve_k":38h9md6u said:
yeah, they are great in the right combination. same with anything else. i suspect though that a conventional 68/69 spec marshall style cab of which everything else is built around is better suited for more amps than an afterburner or even a recto cab.

steve

welcome to the family....

You already said that :confused:

damn meds

Cannon Ball!!!!!!
 
Digital Jams":2wja4toc said:
donbarzini":2wja4toc said:
thegame":2wja4toc said:
donbarzini":2wja4toc said:
steve_k":2wja4toc said:
yeah, they are great in the right combination. same with anything else. i suspect though that a conventional 68/69 spec marshall style cab of which everything else is built around is better suited for more amps than an afterburner or even a recto cab.

steve

welcome to the family....

You already said that :confused:

damn meds

Cannon Ball!!!!!!

Feckin Echo in here :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
 
I really want to try the afterburner. Some dudes swear by them. Cost is on par (or better) than any other oversized cab.
 
Gsxrbusa":2dpjawnj said:
I really want to try the afterburner. Some dudes swear by them. Cost is on par (or better) than any other oversized cab.

I have a growing number of 4X12 cabs in my possession. A Mills Afterburner (on the way,) a Randall XXL oversized cab, a 5150 and an 87 Marshall 1960A. I sense a cab comparrison thread in the near future.
 
Does anyone know what type of joinery is used on the corners of a Mills cab?
 
2 cabs I really want to try - Mills AB and a Kerry Wright. Just don't know how to achieve that.

My 2 fav cabs - Thiele with EVMs, and a Bogner 2x12 OS.
 
Shark Diver":132ggc6a said:
2 cabs I really want to try - Mills AB and a Kerry Wright. Just don't know how to achieve that.

My 2 fav cabs - Thiele with EVMs, and a Bogner 2x12 OS.

Well I have a Bogner OS 2x12 with v30s and it would have buried the Mills I heard loaded with K100s in a band mix :bleh: Fine Japanese Phoenix steel vs butter knife :lol: :LOL:

I did heard a Mills with v30s and it was better but it still was not as punchy or cutting as my Bogner OS. Wish I never heard those k100s..............thanks lolzgreg :doh:

Thiele is a different beast, I would not compare the two imo.
 
Digital Jams":3g4iiask said:
Thiele is a different beast, I would not compare the two imo.


I wasn't comparing, just saying they are my favorite cabs. ;)
 
so where do all of you guys get the notion of NOT having an oversized cab for vintage amps? I run my matamps through a vintage White cabinet that's about the size of a Hiwatt, and that thing rips through space-time. None of the standard sized cabinets dare touch it.
 
::fred::":1bxs2zom said:
so where do all of you guys get the notion of NOT having an oversized cab for vintage amps? I run my matamps through a vintage White cabinet that's about the size of a Hiwatt, and that thing rips through space-time. None of the standard sized cabinets dare touch it.

because of a woofy/flubby/swallowed/lost tone/untuned resonance character that i have always experienced with oversized cabinets. it never fails.

i'd much prefer a 4x10, not a single cabinet i have ever played touched the sheer cutting attitude of a 4x10 cabinet. for more depth a standard 4x12 would work but oversize cabinets always tend to show their true colours in the same manners/fashion.
 
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