Modding my knucklehead to sound like an Uberschall

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Hi everyone,

So, it's been a few years I'm a big fan of the uberschall, and since we dont have any
bogner dealers in israel I'm not able to get one.

So I got hooked up with a modding company called tonehunter, they';re based in germany
and they are doing mods to rivera', mesa, bogner and alot of other amps, here is their site:

http://www.tonehunter.de/eng_index.php

I asked them if they can mod my knucklehead reverb to sound exactly like the uberschall and they said they can make it come very close.

They ask 450 euro's for the mod.

I was generally planning on swapping the 6L6's in it out and try e34l's but this may be my ticket.

Anyone had any experience with these guys? Thoughts?
 
My initial thought is that's a rather expensive mod. 2nd thought is, good luck selling it.

That being said, I think it's badass to get what you want, and more power to ya for taking the creative road. :thumbsup:
 
you will kill the value of the knucklehead if you do that mod. anything that is way out in left field is not easy to let go.

with that being said, if you gamble it and dont like it - you are double screwed.

i would say no. if you want uberschall tone, get an uberschall.
 
Can't you just sell the Rivera and buy a used Uberschall from someone on the boards and have them ship it to you. It'll cost alot to ship, but it'll be a real Bogner. I've shipped amps to Russia and Taiwan before, so there are people out there who will do it. You are gonna spend a bunch in shipping to an from Germany for the mod on top of the mod cost as well.
 
mhenson42":j6rvmf54 said:
Can't you just sell the Rivera and buy a used Uberschall from someone on the boards and have them ship it to you. It'll cost alot to ship, but it'll be a real Bogner. I've shipped amps to Russia and Taiwan before, so there are people out there who will do it. You are gonna spend a bunch in shipping to an from Germany for the mod on top of the mod cost as well.
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Matt's right. Only an Uberschall is gonna sound like an Uberschall, so I would suggest going that route.
 
I wouldn't,sounds like a cool idea but what if they turn your amp into
a paper weight? What if they're deadbeats,sounds risky to me unless
you know for a fact they are standup guys.
I'm sure nobody wants to see you ampless.
Be careful.Think it thru good and hard.
 
I wouldn't screw around with that either. If you were starting from a more clean/straight base, that'd be different(like an old Marshall). But you're taking an amp that was specifically built to sound a certain way and trying to screw with that- eh, sounds like a bad move to me. Sell it and buy an Uber if that's really what you want.
 
Call Rob at Tone Merchants in Cali. He will ship you an Uberschall straight to your front door in downtown Tel Aviv. He sent me one to Saudi :D

As for modding the Knucklehead, anything is possible, but it is not going to happen with the Rivera transformers and 6L6's. The Ubershcall, like Cameron's, get their explosive gain and bottom end from 560 volts at the plates and that really pumps out the tone you are after. Not gonna happen with a KH.

Steve
 
Thanks for the comments everyone, that was pretty helpfull.

I thought about selling the rivera but you gutta understand that it's really hard to sell
a tube high gain head that costs new 2400$, Israel has only 6 milion citizens,
and most of them arent really into guitar playing, and the guys that are actually into it,
are most of the time using some really low end stuff.

The thing that I dont like about the uberschall though is that it really has it's one sound
and thats pretty much it, it seems that you cant really dial in rock\grunge tones with it,
and while I'm not playing this kind of music on my band, I want to be able getting those tones
from my amp.

Another thing is that it isnt midi controlable like the rivera, the rivera really wins in the versatility department and it's something that was important for me when I was shopping for an amp in the first place.

I think that I also didnt really gave the rivera it's fair shot since I discovered I'm an el34 guy,
I guess the 6L6's really ruined it for me but on the other hand I just know that whenever I heard a ryhthm tone I really liked, it was an uberschall.

You guys are right, the modding is a bad idea.
But now I'm pretty messed up...

Is it worth trying to put there e34l's?
 
Rivera Knucks are not a common amp. I wanted one and could not find one. Then I took a bit of a drive and found someone desperate to sell. Picked up a Knuck Tre for $1000. It was 9 months old, he had the reciept, and a sad story, I had cash. If it was modded, I would not have given more than $600. Not trying to be a smart ass but IMO, for $450..... You could get some high level guitar lessons and with solid practice add some major chops to your arsenal for that coin. You can buy gear but you can't buy skill. Invest the $$ in yourself. You will make the gear you have sound better.
 
Trippled":139nu62u said:
Thanks for the comments everyone, that was pretty helpfull.

I thought about selling the rivera but you gutta understand that it's really hard to sell
a tube high gain head that costs new 2400$, Israel has only 6 milion citizens,
and most of them arent really into guitar playing, and the guys that are actually into it,
are most of the time using some really low end stuff.

The thing that I dont like about the uberschall though is that it really has it's one sound
and thats pretty much it, it seems that you cant really dial in rock\grunge tones with it,
and while I'm not playing this kind of music on my band, I want to be able getting those tones
from my amp.

Another thing is that it isnt midi controlable like the rivera, the rivera really wins in the versatility department and it's something that was important for me when I was shopping for an amp in the first place.

I think that I also didnt really gave the rivera it's fair shot since I discovered I'm an el34 guy,
I guess the 6L6's really ruined it for me but on the other hand I just know that whenever I heard a ryhthm tone I really liked, it was an uberschall.

You guys are right, the modding is a bad idea.
But now I'm pretty messed up...

Is it worth trying to put there e34l's?
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Every Uber I've played has had a huge variety of tones in it, and sounded great for rock and grunge... I mean, the presence control alone drastically alters the character of the amp. :confused:

Coheed and Cambria use Uberschalls and they're pretty far from metal.
 
Variable":1h86uthl said:
Trippled":1h86uthl said:
Thanks for the comments everyone, that was pretty helpfull.

I thought about selling the rivera but you gutta understand that it's really hard to sell
a tube high gain head that costs new 2400$, Israel has only 6 milion citizens,
and most of them arent really into guitar playing, and the guys that are actually into it,
are most of the time using some really low end stuff.

The thing that I dont like about the uberschall though is that it really has it's one sound
and thats pretty much it, it seems that you cant really dial in rock\grunge tones with it,
and while I'm not playing this kind of music on my band, I want to be able getting those tones
from my amp.

Another thing is that it isnt midi controlable like the rivera, the rivera really wins in the versatility department and it's something that was important for me when I was shopping for an amp in the first place.

I think that I also didnt really gave the rivera it's fair shot since I discovered I'm an el34 guy,
I guess the 6L6's really ruined it for me but on the other hand I just know that whenever I heard a ryhthm tone I really liked, it was an uberschall.

You guys are right, the modding is a bad idea.
But now I'm pretty messed up...

Is it worth trying to put there e34l's?
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Every Uber I've played has had a huge variety of tones in it, and sounded great for rock and grunge... I mean, the presence control alone drastically alters the character of the amp. :confused:

Coheed and Cambria use Uberschalls and they're pretty far from metal.
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I guess I had the wrong impresssion on it, still the non midi control kinda bothers me.
It's not really an option for me anyway, the rivera wont sell.
 
Put the Rivera on ebay, it will sell.

Then find an Uberschall and buy it.

The Uberschall is by no means a "one trick" pony. I own one and I will tell you as stated above, the way the Presence control affects the low mids on that amp is great. It will go from scooped metal to thick Marshall type tones with the twist of a knob.
 
I have a Rev 1 Uber (#52...haha, Dan) and I can get any tone I want from it. My favorite amp, ever (that and the Legacy, which I run together). Midi control on the cheap with the RJM Amp Gizmo (I now use the RG16). The Uber and a few cheap and choice pedals and you can do anything with it.
 
Death by Uberschall":261xwzvi said:
Put the Rivera on ebay, it will sell.

Then find an Uberschall and buy it.

The Uberschall is by no means a "one trick" pony. I own one and I will tell you as stated above, the way the Presence control affects the low mids on that amp is great. It will go from scooped metal to thick Marshall type tones with the twist of a knob.
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It will sell for 1300$-1500$, getting an uber over here if I'm getting one used
wil probably be 1700$+500$(shipping)+around 30% taxes.
 
glpg80":3gdcozur said:
you will kill the value of the knucklehead if you do that mod. anything that is way out in left field is not easy to let go.

with that being said, if you gamble it and dont like it - you are double screwed.

i would say no. if you want uberschall tone, get an uberschall.
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This, and because it's a smaller company, and one bassed in Germany, even more so.

I'd only get FJA Mods and Voodoo Mods to mod one of my amps because so many gearheads know of these companies and trust them.
 
As far as midi switching, get a device like a cfx4. Someone out there can build you a box to make it happen. I like el34s for rhythm tones too, switching it to that might make you love the amp- who knows? It's alot less risky and can be changed back to original fairly easy I think.
 
for 450 euros plus shipping I'd rather take electronics lessons and do it myself
but the knucklehead is far from a mod friendly amp
its circuit is messy as f***
you better get a more simple Marshall style amp to mod to Uber specs (which is quite simple)
 
Nah, I think I gave up on the modding idea.
I'll try to put some e34l's in it, see how I like it than.
 
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