Motor city hell babys

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Officially my favorite pickups so far. Any one from HC knows how much I love my painkillers, well, I love these suckers even more. More clarity than my painkillers, better note definition. Adds a little dryness to the tone. Still retain the heaviness that I need. The perfect amount of aggressiveness. THe neck pickup definitely delivers (though not as well as my lizard). Just all around incredible pickups. Ill hopefully be able to get some comparison clips up this weekend, and once I get my AKG back, Ill do some more too. Just wanted to spread the word...these things are amazing!!!
 
Can you compare the neck Hell Baby to the Lizard?
Why is it that you prefer the Lizard?
 
I'd like to try a Hellbaby sometime soon. I have a Solution and love it.
 
interesting. I absolutely love my Painkillers, but I've been curious about these since Matt was gassing me up over them. Clarity and note definition hasn't been something I've felt lacking in the PK's, I love them for rhythm under high gain. However, I wouldn't mind trying something new for some different lead tones and clean/low gain application, while still keeping a snarly tight hardrock/metal tone obviously.
 
Fuck, you say this after I buy a BKP MM? I'm regretting it, this MCC sounds way better.
 
:rock: Hellbabies! :rock: I love the aggressive mids. Cleans are amazing as well.
 
firejack":1i589h46 said:
Can you compare the neck Hell Baby to the Lizard?
Why is it that you prefer the Lizard?

The lizard seems slightly clearer and gives me slightly better cleans. This is me comparing what I remember 2 weeks ago from having the BGs in this guitar. These pups are also wired up differently. Hopefully Ill get the other guitar back with the BGs today, and Ill do some neck comparison clips for you this weekend. I definitely like the lizard better overall as a neck pup, though. Output seems to be about the same for both pups. Not to say the hellbaby isnt good...its an awesome neck pup, better than my painkillers for smoother, cleaner type of tones, but I just think the lizard is better.
 
SpiritCrusher86":6au6kn2e said:
Fuck, you say this after I buy a BKP MM? I'm regretting it, this MCC sounds way better.

:(

The tech had these 2 guitars for almost 2 weeks....he actually still has one....I shoulda been able to post something this past weekend, but I didnt get the guitars back yet...I dont think you will be disappointed in the MM though.
 
Erock":3hlfzkyn said:
interesting. I absolutely love my Painkillers, but I've been curious about these since Matt was gassing me up over them. Clarity and note definition hasn't been something I've felt lacking in the PK's, I love them for rhythm under high gain. However, I wouldn't mind trying something new for some different lead tones and clean/low gain application, while still keeping a snarly tight hardrock/metal tone obviously.

Yeah man. I dont feel like the painkillers are lacking in anything in clarity and note definition, but the hellbabies have more of it. I think some days they can sound harsh to my ears, just because of how my ears are acting. I still love the painkillers, for sure. I just like these better...actually, significantly better. They hellbabies seem tighter than the painkillers, IMO, but dont have the slight harshness that I sometimes hear wtih them. (and its VERY slight, and only 1 out of 10 times that I hear it). The hellbabies add this interesting dryness to the tone, that I have been trying to get out of my amp, but isnt there with the 6505....now its there. They have a woodiness in the tone that seems very deep and percussive. I havent really tried leads on them yet, but for rhythm....there is no question in my mind, that these are absolutely, hands down, my favorite pickups. I think the BG pups are better for leads than rhythm, so they are in my lead guitar now (or when I get it back from the tech). The painkillers are still gonna be awesome for that grindy midrange tight and aggressive as shit sound. I think the hellbabies give me exactly what I need out of a pickup though.

Im considering replacing my painkillers with some hellbabies in my ninja, but I havent decided yet. The ibanez and the ninja are the same wood, and have sounded pretty much the same with other pups I have tried, so I think they would sound pretty close with these as well....but idk if I need to have 2 guitars with the same pups in them...Ill have to think about it.
 
rbasaria":30389mvn said:
firejack":30389mvn said:
Can you compare the neck Hell Baby to the Lizard?
Why is it that you prefer the Lizard?

The lizard seems slightly clearer and gives me slightly better cleans. This is me comparing what I remember 2 weeks ago from having the BGs in this guitar. These pups are also wired up differently. Hopefully Ill get the other guitar back with the BGs today, and Ill do some neck comparison clips for you this weekend. I definitely like the lizard better overall as a neck pup, though. Output seems to be about the same for both pups. Not to say the hellbaby isnt good...its an awesome neck pup, better than my painkillers for smoother, cleaner type of tones, but I just think the lizard is better.
rbasaria":30389mvn said:
Erock":30389mvn said:
interesting. I absolutely love my Painkillers, but I've been curious about these since Matt was gassing me up over them. Clarity and note definition hasn't been something I've felt lacking in the PK's, I love them for rhythm under high gain. However, I wouldn't mind trying something new for some different lead tones and clean/low gain application, while still keeping a snarly tight hardrock/metal tone obviously.

Yeah man. I dont feel like the painkillers are lacking in anything in clarity and note definition, but the hellbabies have more of it. I think some days they can sound harsh to my ears, just because of how my ears are acting. I still love the painkillers, for sure. I just like these better...actually, significantly better. They hellbabies seem tighter than the painkillers, IMO, but dont have the slight harshness that I sometimes hear wtih them. (and its VERY slight, and only 1 out of 10 times that I hear it). The hellbabies add this interesting dryness to the tone, that I have been trying to get out of my amp, but isnt there with the 6505....now its there. They have a woodiness in the tone that seems very deep and percussive. I havent really tried leads on them yet, but for rhythm....there is no question in my mind, that these are absolutely, hands down, my favorite pickups. I think the BG pups are better for leads than rhythm, so they are in my lead guitar now (or when I get it back from the tech). The painkillers are still gonna be awesome for that grindy midrange tight and aggressive as shit sound. I think the hellbabies give me exactly what I need out of a pickup though.

Im considering replacing my painkillers with some hellbabies in my ninja, but I havent decided yet. The ibanez and the ninja are the same wood, and have sounded pretty much the same with other pups I have tried, so I think they would sound pretty close with these as well....but idk if I need to have 2 guitars with the same pups in them...Ill have to think about it.

Oh no! This is not good.
I'm going to have to just get a set of BG Pickups in one guitar and a set of MCP Hellbabies in another.
Are you still diggin the Hellarails?
Or has the HellBaby bridge topped that also?
BTW great description mate. :thumbsup:
 
firejack":2t0gt1cj said:
rbasaria":2t0gt1cj said:
firejack":2t0gt1cj said:
Can you compare the neck Hell Baby to the Lizard?
Why is it that you prefer the Lizard?

The lizard seems slightly clearer and gives me slightly better cleans. This is me comparing what I remember 2 weeks ago from having the BGs in this guitar. These pups are also wired up differently. Hopefully Ill get the other guitar back with the BGs today, and Ill do some neck comparison clips for you this weekend. I definitely like the lizard better overall as a neck pup, though. Output seems to be about the same for both pups. Not to say the hellbaby isnt good...its an awesome neck pup, better than my painkillers for smoother, cleaner type of tones, but I just think the lizard is better.
rbasaria":2t0gt1cj said:
Erock":2t0gt1cj said:
interesting. I absolutely love my Painkillers, but I've been curious about these since Matt was gassing me up over them. Clarity and note definition hasn't been something I've felt lacking in the PK's, I love them for rhythm under high gain. However, I wouldn't mind trying something new for some different lead tones and clean/low gain application, while still keeping a snarly tight hardrock/metal tone obviously.

Yeah man. I dont feel like the painkillers are lacking in anything in clarity and note definition, but the hellbabies have more of it. I think some days they can sound harsh to my ears, just because of how my ears are acting. I still love the painkillers, for sure. I just like these better...actually, significantly better. They hellbabies seem tighter than the painkillers, IMO, but dont have the slight harshness that I sometimes hear wtih them. (and its VERY slight, and only 1 out of 10 times that I hear it). The hellbabies add this interesting dryness to the tone, that I have been trying to get out of my amp, but isnt there with the 6505....now its there. They have a woodiness in the tone that seems very deep and percussive. I havent really tried leads on them yet, but for rhythm....there is no question in my mind, that these are absolutely, hands down, my favorite pickups. I think the BG pups are better for leads than rhythm, so they are in my lead guitar now (or when I get it back from the tech). The painkillers are still gonna be awesome for that grindy midrange tight and aggressive as shit sound. I think the hellbabies give me exactly what I need out of a pickup though.

Im considering replacing my painkillers with some hellbabies in my ninja, but I havent decided yet. The ibanez and the ninja are the same wood, and have sounded pretty much the same with other pups I have tried, so I think they would sound pretty close with these as well....but idk if I need to have 2 guitars with the same pups in them...Ill have to think about it.

Oh no! This is not good.
I'm going to have to just get a set of BG Pickups in one guitar and a set of MCP Hellbabies in another.
Are you still diggin the Hellarails?
Or has the HellBaby bridge topped that also?
BTW great description mate. :thumbsup:

I still dig the hellarail, but as I said, I think its better suited for lead than rhythm, at least for the tones that I am going for. Im waiting on my other guitar from the tech, so I can properly compare the hellarail and hellbabies. I think all of these pups are on another level as far as quality and tone goes when compared to EMG or Duncan, and of course when compared to any stock pups. Once I get the other guitar back, Ill give them all a proper comparison (hopefully Ill have time to do this on sunday) and itll give you an idea of what they all really sound like. Ultimately, I think the Lizard is still the best neck pup Ive ever heard, and the hellbaby is the best bridge pup Ive heard, but I really need to do a proper comparison to confirm this. Dont worry about your choices, they are all excellent. I would definitely say that you should get a hellbaby bridge and a lizard neck at some point and have a set of hellbabys and a set of BGs in your guitars.

The thing about BGs, is they are much smoother than the painkillers or hellbabies. Its a nice change, and I think its good to have that smooth tone in a guitar, especially if you want to record leads. Im not saying they arent aggressive, because they are when compared to a lot of other pups, but nothing is as aggressive as the painkiller, and I havent heard anything that has such a unique voice and attack as the hellbaby...and I think the hellbaby is really just what Ive been looking for in a pup. The midrange on the painkillers is MASSIVE compared to its other frequencies, the midrange on the BGs is pretty much level with the rest of the frequencies of that pup, the midrange of the hellbabies, I think, is close to the painkillers, but not as huge...but the hellbabies are still tight and aggressive, but they have this VERY unique and awesome voice to them that I cant stop thinking about...
 
rbasaria":1pxiuh19 said:
SpiritCrusher86":1pxiuh19 said:
Fuck, you say this after I buy a BKP MM? I'm regretting it, this MCC sounds way better.

:(

The tech had these 2 guitars for almost 2 weeks....he actually still has one....I shoulda been able to post something this past weekend, but I didnt get the guitars back yet...I dont think you will be disappointed in the MM though.
Its fine, I didn't mean it in a mean way. Haha
 
SpiritCrusher86":3p7zquex said:
rbasaria":3p7zquex said:
SpiritCrusher86":3p7zquex said:
Fuck, you say this after I buy a BKP MM? I'm regretting it, this MCC sounds way better.

:(

The tech had these 2 guitars for almost 2 weeks....he actually still has one....I shoulda been able to post something this past weekend, but I didnt get the guitars back yet...I dont think you will be disappointed in the MM though.
Its fine, I didn't mean it in a mean way. Haha

Nah man, no worries...here are some clips...

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=67235
 
rbasaria":1t3xlgch said:
SpiritCrusher86":1t3xlgch said:
rbasaria":1t3xlgch said:
SpiritCrusher86":1t3xlgch said:
Fuck, you say this after I buy a BKP MM? I'm regretting it, this MCC sounds way better.

:(

The tech had these 2 guitars for almost 2 weeks....he actually still has one....I shoulda been able to post something this past weekend, but I didnt get the guitars back yet...I dont think you will be disappointed in the MM though.
Its fine, I didn't mean it in a mean way. Haha

Nah man, no worries...here are some clips...

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=67235
Sounds good, the HellBABY sounds tighter, and sounds like it has a bit more highs.
 
Thanks. I really like the hellbabies over the painkillers. THey have this unique character about them that Im absolutely loving!!
 
I liked the hell baby's alot when I first got them - more than my Pain Killer, Afwayu and Solution. After awhile, I felt they were too clear. I'm liking the Pain Killers alot now. The Afwayus are better suited to the guitar that I had those Hell Babys in as well.

If anyone is interested, I have a friend who is gonna sell his Hell Baby bridge (50 mm). I has a gold cover on it. PM me and I'll hook you up with him. I'll probably be listing them for him soon.
 
mhenson42":1m8h8088 said:
I liked the hell baby's alot when I first got them - more than my Pain Killer, Afwayu and Solution. After awhile, I felt they were too clear. I'm liking the Pain Killers alot now. The Afwayus are better suited to the guitar that I had those Hell Babys in as well.

If anyone is interested, I have a friend who is gonna sell his Hell Baby bridge (50 mm). I has a gold cover on it. PM me and I'll hook you up with him. I'll probably be listing them for him soon.

I love how clear they are....they make my painkillers sound muddy lol. Ill probably be selling my painkillers pretty soon lol.
 
rbasaria":288oebdm said:
The HellBaby bridge does have an awesome dry punchy attack without being overly mid-focused like the Painkiller.
I really like it from what I'm hearing in your clips Raf.

And wow, that Painkiller clip sounds woofy in the lows.
I've never had a problem with my Painkiller 7 bridge getting flubby like that.
It's always been razor-tight in the lows for me.

Looking forward to the neck pickup clips. :thumbsup:
 
firejack":aqjmnmfp said:
rbasaria":aqjmnmfp said:
The HellBaby bridge does have an awesome dry punchy attack without being overly mid-focused like the Painkiller.
I really like it from what I'm hearing in your clips Raf.

And wow, that Painkiller clip sounds woofy in the lows.
I've never had a problem with my Painkiller 7 bridge getting flubby like that.
It's always been razor-tight in the lows for me.

Looking forward to the neck pickup clips. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Im not sure why I got woofy response there. Probably mic placement, which was the same for all the clips...
 
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