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strungup
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Is there a way to set the floyd floating so it will pull up? I know it was designed not to but I still want it floating. Do I need to replace the EBMM Floyd with an original floyd?
realityescapes
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You would have to route out the body under the floyd to be able to pull up.
Marshall Law
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I don't know much about those guitars, but if they came with a EVH D-TUNA thats why the had them blocked, if they didn't come with one, then they were being lazy or just cheap and didn't want to spend the time to set them up right 
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strungup
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Marshall Law":3408vd0o said:I don't know much about those guitars, but if they came with a EVH D-TUNA thats why the had them blocked, if they didn't come with one, then they were being lazy or just cheap and didn't want to spend the time to set them up right
I am not much of a floyd user but have played non recessed floyds that were floating and pulled up. This does have the evh d-tuna on it. Is that the problem?
Marshall Law
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on a guitar with a d-tuna you need to stabilize the bridge, that's why they blocked them, other wise you would be out of tune, when you went between E and dropped D tuning, because a Floyd is a, spring against string tension to make it stable with a D-TUNA, switching between the 2 tunings,you need to block the tremelo to make it stable, Blocked means in tune between E And D with a D-Tuna, I'm sorry if this don't make sense to you but it make sense to me, I have been drinking WHISKY tonightstrungup":2gl20bh2 said:Marshall Law":2gl20bh2 said:I don't know much about those guitars, but if they came with a EVH D-TUNA thats why the had them blocked, if they didn't come with one, then they were being lazy or just cheap and didn't want to spend the time to set them up right
I am not much of a floyd user but have played non recessed floyds that were floating and pulled up. This does have the evh d-tuna on it. Is that the problem?
ratter
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The Axis (previously EVH) came about long before the D-tuna. The Floyd sits flush and isn't recessed because that's the way Eddie wanted it when he spec'ed the guitar. It has nothing to do with bridge itself - replacing the bridge won't help. You would either have to route out a recess for it so there's room to pull back, or loosen the spring tension a bit so that the back end floats up some and/or raise the posts a bit so that the whole bridge comes up. But those last two options will also raise the action.
There are upsides to not having it floating. You can use the D-tuna, as mentioned. If you break a string, it doesn't go out of tune. And you can do bends to a greater extent without the other strings going flat.
There are upsides to not having it floating. You can use the D-tuna, as mentioned. If you break a string, it doesn't go out of tune. And you can do bends to a greater extent without the other strings going flat.
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Copperhead
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Dive only Floyds have better tone when set up correctly. The bridge will sit flat on the body and the vibrations of the strings will resonate much better through the firm contact of the bridge and body. If you have to have pull up, the first thing you have to determine is how much do you want? Half a step can easily be obtained by raising the bridge, AND loosening the tension on the springs. If set up properly, there is over tension on the springs to hold the bridge tight against the body. What you want to do is to achieve a balance on the bridge where the baseplate is parallel to the body and you are in tune. Once you have accomplished this, do not activate the D-Tuna as this will change the tension on your strings and now cause the bridge to pull back sharp. When you have achieved balancing the bridge with a one-half step pull up, measure the change in string height over the board at the highest fret. Also carefully observe the change in the angle between the nut and the saddle. Now remove the neck and shim the pocket to return to the original action and angle of attack.
If you require more than one half step, you will have to ROUT a cavity below the baseplate. Depending on how far you actually desire to pull up, you may have to even remove additional material to clear the string lock screws.
I would advise against this. After years of playing free floating trems, I switched to Wolfgangs. It took a little bit of getting used to, but for me the benefits far outweighed the loss of pulling up on the trem. The guitars stay in tune much better when traveling through different temps and humidity levels. I don't hardly break strings any more. I've become quite addicted to the D-Tuna, I can't imagine not being able to go to drop D.
If you require more than one half step, you will have to ROUT a cavity below the baseplate. Depending on how far you actually desire to pull up, you may have to even remove additional material to clear the string lock screws.
I would advise against this. After years of playing free floating trems, I switched to Wolfgangs. It took a little bit of getting used to, but for me the benefits far outweighed the loss of pulling up on the trem. The guitars stay in tune much better when traveling through different temps and humidity levels. I don't hardly break strings any more. I've become quite addicted to the D-Tuna, I can't imagine not being able to go to drop D.
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strungup
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thanks for the replies guys. I already played with raising the posts and adjusting the string tension but didn't want to deal with shimming the neck so I put it back. I guess I will use it as is.