My Custom ordered ESP M-II

[glpg80]

i pulled some serious strings to get an all white 2009 M-II SD in america. the color is only offered in germany/austrailia. Japan only gets black or red, USA gets black only.

so i was told ~8-12 weeks when i ordered it. went ahead and did the full downpayment.

but now when ESP checked to make sure it was a bolt on neck, they gave him 6-7 months estimate

that means i wont get my 2009 baby until april of next year

 

[Digital Jams]

So it is a bolt on? I thought the M-II was bolt on right?

Custom shop or just production?

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

I don't know how they do it now but MII's were always available as Neck through and Bolt on..
MII Deluxe Bolt on.
MII Custom Deluxe Neck through.

I know the ESP Custom shop is small but that is a hell of a wait for just a standard model painted white..

Sorry to hear..

 

[glassjaw7]

Bummer man Hopefully it will be worth the wait.

 

[glpg80]

So it is a bolt on? I thought the M-II was bolt on right?

Custom shop or just production?

M-II deluxe "customized" with nothing but a colour change.

it was a bitch finding a dealer to work with me.

i was hoping to be able to post my NGD post in rig-talk right about now. its been ~4 months so far already. wont be until april of next year now.

i wouldnt have needed to order a deluxe at all if i lived in germany.

and yes, you have the neck through or the bolt on option for the M-II (+~$100-200), but i prefer the "snap" of a bolt on neck. i dont like the smoothness neck throughs give, i much prefer do that on the amplifier side and with touch/feel/playing with the volume knob.

i didnt want to import one because of the euro-dollar conversion, i would end up spending about $2,300.

american black models run ~1500+tax retail in black without a case. both variables suck - i dislike all black guitars with maple necks.

i got a deal with a case, but son of a bitch guys september to april for just a color change?!

M-II's in all white are rare in these parts. and its esentially my dream guitar minus a few wood choices which i just DONT have the money for anytime soon (mahog maple top)

 

[glpg80]

Bummer man Hopefully it will be worth the wait.

it just sucks because he told me 12 weeks, its been ~4 months, and now ESP told him until april of next year. it just sucks to have waited this long only to be given a date so far away

if i would have known this in the first place i wouldnt have placed the order. they already have black-nickel plating which i fucking hate with a passion, and i could have used the money for a W/D/W setup rack that i originally mentioned a long time ago.

that guitar had better play, look, and sound fucking phenominal after i change a few things to my liking and set it up to my preferences, otherwise 1 year of waiting will be a big letdown for a standard deluxe with just a colour change

 

[stanbog]

Jesus, 6-7 months..... Next time ask me to buy one here and ship it to you.

 

[glpg80]

Jesus, 6-7 months..... Next time ask me to buy one here and ship it to you.

thanks for the amazing offer - but unless i buy it from a dealer i would have to pay you for the guitar+euro taxes+shipping+insurance fee's+case costs. sooooooooooooooooooo i guess that the wait is what i have to pay for in the long run. money or time.

theres really no-one i could trust sending money. i would trust scott, mike, dave, larry, steve, and dan here on the forum. but even then i have no clue as to if someone would just take the money and run.

not to be meant negative at all, i just dont know you. however your offer is amazing and i greatly appreciate it

 

[stanbog]

No offense taken. I just find it ridiculous to wait so long for a standard model in another color.
And i personally wouldn't be comfortable taking money from you anyway. I was just pointing out other possible solutions.

 

[Les Zombie]

Damn that sucks, I also been thru stuff like this with ESP.
I bought about 10 ESP one year and some of them took longer than they told me it would take. I also have seen guys make custom orders and wait 6 to 8 months longer than they were told it was gonna take. I remeber waiting a xtra 3 months for a GL-56 and white ninja v. The lynch was a regular model but the ninja in white wasn't a color we was offered in the USA.

 

[HerbieTheRadDorklift]

Huh, I could have gotten a new White M-II standard for £900 a few weeks ago.

 

[Mailman1971]

Bummer on the wait my man!
When I lived in Japan they had all kinds of cool axes that were exclusive to only Japan.
I snagged a few when I was heavy into collecting.
Was like a kid in a Candy store!
Keep patient. It will be worth the wait.

Dan

 

[glpg80]

Huh, I could have gotten a new White M-II standard for £900 a few weeks ago.

i could have recieved one in white, but with a black headstock. only you euro panzies get the matching headstock models which is how picky i am

i owe nothing more on the guitar, just sucks to wait i guess. it sucks even more to know its a model hanging up all over germany/europe right now - not like i was building an all out custom shop model. however, i do want to do exactly that in the future. the wait time wouldnt be so painful

i just hope the guitar is flawless. because flawless = worth the time and money.

 

[glpg80]

Bummer on the wait my man!
When I lived in Japan they had all kinds of cool axes that were exclusive to only Japan.
I snagged a few when I was heavy into collecting.
Was like a kid in a Candy store!
Keep patient. It will be worth the wait.

Dan

thanks danno. so THATS where you got that killer

im sure plenty of the guys here on the forum have waited this long and know how i feel. but theres a few things here like being lied into a fake wait time to order the guitar thats non-refundable with a downpayment, and also the fact ESP takes so long just to ship a colour change model.

i do know that they are backed up but really? 7 months for a color?

just to talk about it a bit, i dunno how anyone else is but no guitar fits me right out of the box. ill have it down in parts and pieces as soon as i get it lol. it will need to be fully gone over when i get it before its 100% my dream guitar. re-wired, new pickups, replacing the hardware, gotoh floyd rose, tungsten block, and a bournes pot just to name a few.

 

[HerbieTheRadDorklift]

Couldn't you have bought a used M-II (preferably a cheap one with battered paint) then had it resprayed?

 

[glpg80]

Couldn't you have bought a used M-II (preferably a cheap one with battered paint) then had it resprayed?

guitar + paint + all shipping costs + a case was not a wise investment money wise, plus the logo's are hard to find for ESP since the headstock is the main reason. i couldnt find anyone that did ESP logo's and to be honest, i wouldnt want a fake logo on such a guitar to begin with. this isnt exactly an LTD here.

it was too much BS - i got it cheaper this way.

also i would be looking at a model that would be prior to 2005, when the nickel plating was introduced into production in their shop. i had a very hard time finding these guitars, and most of the ones i would feel sinister stripping the existing paint to recolour it.

i also couldnt find anyone that would do as good of a job as i wanted for a decent price which also put the final nail in that coffin i just would have had stupid amounts invested in it, more than i cared so to be honest, to get the same end result as one that's hanging on a store's wall in your country.

its all good though. things are already said and done, and it has been 4 months already. i have been low about it until the recent knews i just found out. time is all i need for now

 

[HerbieTheRadDorklift]

Eh, I dunno, dpepends what it's like over there I guess.

Over here, £500 for the used M-II, £250max for the paint job, £20 for the professional decal.

 

[glpg80]

Eh, I dunno, dpepends what it's like over there I guess.

Over here, £500 for the used M-II, £250max for the paint job, £20 for the professional decal.

M-II's in this area arent going for $750. most of the ones i have seen were in the $1100 range used minimum, 1200 range was more normal, plus more for paint job extras, wood, etc.

retail, the guitars are around $1500 new and of course in black, and without a case.

MSRP for the ones in america are around $2,600 before tax.

but if i lived on your side of the pond, i wouldnt need to repaint one. the prices would probably me much lower like you are mentioning, and i could simply purchase one lol.

no worries though at all

 

[HerbieTheRadDorklift]

If I'd have known you wanted one I'd have sent one over!

 

[glpg80]

If I'd have known you wanted one I'd have sent one over!

i know!@



so many amazing guys over the pond. i really do appreciate all of the offers guys from everyone that really means alot

its all good though. in the end, ill still get the guitar. things will just take longer than normal. next time i order an ESP it will be a custom shop model. so hopefully, i wont go through this again without expecting it first. a 12 month waiting period on a CS is common, and actually worth the wait. mojo is being made on those models