My new 2013 LP Standard Premium AAA

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Added to the small collection, a brand spankin new 2013 Gibson LP Standard Plus AAA top.
I've been wanting an LP Standard, but their pricing is steep.
IMO, they are overly priced in comparison to other manufacturers, and the quality those companies can put out compared to Gibson.
Still, there is something about that TONE that comes from an LP.
If you want it, then you'll have to decide if you're willing to pay.

There are excellent deals on 2013 clearance Gibsons, and I found a VERY sweet deal at Sweetwater.
I was going to get a regular AA LP Standard, but for just a little bit more I had my choice of a few AAA's.
On Sweetwater's website they show you a few in stock guitars so you can choose the one you want.
I found a few and then decide to make the 2 hour drive to see the store and to see the LP's in person and play them, then decide.

The Sweetwater store is amazing, great facility. Guitar Center can not compare.
Nearly all of the guitars on the walls are perfectly set up and CLEAN very unlike most of the you know who stores.

I choose 2 desert burst LP AAA's and 1 honey burst AAA and played all 3.
WOW. TONE and TONE and TONE. That's what a Gibson LP has, TONE.
All 3 were really sweet. The one that I thought looked the best with the best flame actually had the highest action and didn't "speak" to me as much as the other 2, a desert burst and a hone burst.
The one I picked plays amazingly. I much prefer the slim taper 60's neck of the current Standards.

The negatives:
All is not perfect with my LP nor the other 2.
All 3 had the consistent "ting" when tuning the G string, just as they've had for decades. It's unbelievable that Gibson hasn't addressed and corrected this. But, seems for 2014 they may have a solution as they are now using a different type of nut made of or with graphite, which may help.
The high E strings also had a slight "ting" when tuning as well.

The volume and tone knobs are VERY inconsistent. They have different heights and feel on all 3 LP's. A couple of knobs were even sitting slanted. Small detail, but come on. The LP Standard Plus sells for $3000. No excuse for inconsistent knob feel and installation.
Still, the electronics work great and have usable changes in volume and tone. The coil tapping is pretty cool and there are some interesting and some great tone options.

Those are minor things. The major issue I have is the LACK of quality where the neck sits in the body.
I posted a couple picts below. All 3 of the LP's I was checking out had the same roughness on the edges where the neck meets the body. It's wavy, orange peely, and plain butt ugly. There really is NO excuse for this.
If you're going to claim that American made is better and thus necessitates a price premium, then there is no excuse for doing such a poor job on the construction.
There were a few other LP's in the showroom and out of 6 only 1 was really smooth and done correct. A couple were somewhat acceptable and the rest, like mine, are bad.

The last thing is a very minor issue and something I have a question about.
I posted a pic of the back of the headstock where the serial number and manufacture year are stamped.
On my LP the serial number is readable but faint, but the manufacture date is barely barely readable.
Will this make a difference if I ever sell it?
I don't plan on selling it, but I would like to hand it down in the future to a niece or nephew.

The issues on the guitar are minor and didn't stop me from buying one.
Mostly because I got a fantastic deal on my choice of LP.
If I had to pay full price I would probably have been a lot more picky and gone through their whole stock until I found a perfect one, which shouldn't have to happen btw.

It is about tone and playability and that's why I chose the one I have.
After playing the 3 I thought looked the best, it came down to the one that "spoke" to me and felt right and sounded great.
Heck, all 3 sounded great, but mine played the best.
The nicest looking flame top played nicely too, but it's action was way too high for my liking. I could have corrected that at home, but I like my choice. :)
 
I had the same thoughts when I got mine, a 2012 Custom. I even called the rep at the warehouse to tell him about my issues with the $3000 guitar I has just bought. He used to work for Gibson and he basicly told me that they have been doing them like this for ever and that they are not going to change there methods, there all hand made and blah, blah.

In the end I kind of got where he was coming from, now after playing the guitar for a couple months, I totally get it. A LP is a LP, no question about it. The more you will play it, the better it will become and gel to your playing style and the worn in feel sets in quite fast, faster than others, the nitro is a breathing coating and wears a lot faster than other gloss finishes.

The tone is definitely awesome :rock:

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I will keep this thing in the family and pass it down also, it is such a joy to play and to look at.

Chris
 
think of it like this.

you wouldnt kick cindy crawford out of bed for her mole!

i love gibsons

quirks and all.

as far as setups are concerned, I do them all myself.

every guitarist needs to learn how to set up their own guitars to their playing style.

I find that all the new gibsons that I have bought from the plek era have been able to setup and play perfectly.

a little graphite and light sanding of the nut slots is rarely needed for the ones that i got.
 
Another thing that bothered me, not significant to the guitar itself at all but still,is mine has the serial ink screened on instead of stamped. I find this method cheap compared to a stamped in the wood one. My dad`s 2002 custom is stamped.

I too have the "Ting" on the G string and sometimes the high E.

I love the looks of yours man, classic all the way.

I wanted to go in a more modern direction when i started thinking about getting a LP, i always see the Cherry Burst everywhere i look, i was either going to go with a honey/lemon color or go way out and get the one i got with maple board and all. Cant go any further out than that. Its everything a LP is not...LOL But i don`t care, i bought it for me and my tastes.

I got flock from a couple of guys saying don`t get that, it`s not a REAL LP unless it`s a burst and blah blah....... :gethim:

Enjoy it
 
no way

your lp is badass

in fact i recently picked up a les paul custom with a maple board.

kind of a throwback to the 70's

sounds badass

perfect for metal for sure!

:rock:
7 Stringer":3t624nwq said:
Another thing that bothered me, not significant to the guitar itself at all but still,is mine has the serial ink screened on instead of stamped. I find this method cheap compared to a stamped in the wood one. My dad`s 2002 custom is stamped.

I too have the "Ting" on the G string and sometimes the high E.

I love the looks of yours man, classic all the way.

I wanted to go in a more modern direction when i started thinking about getting a LP, i always see the Cherry Burst everywhere i look, i was either going to go with a honey/lemon color or go way out and get the one i got with maple board and all. Cant go any further out than that. Its everything a LP is not...LOL But i don`t care, i bought it for me and my tastes.

I got flock from a couple of guys saying don`t get that, it`s not a REAL LP unless it`s a burst and blah blah....... :gethim:

Enjoy it
 
fuzzyguitars":3e6gjo45 said:
no way

your lp is badass

in fact i recently picked up a les paul custom with a maple board.

kind of a throwback to the 70's

sounds badass

perfect for metal for sure!

:rock:
7 Stringer":3e6gjo45 said:
Another thing that bothered me, not significant to the guitar itself at all but still,is mine has the serial ink screened on instead of stamped. I find this method cheap compared to a stamped in the wood one. My dad`s 2002 custom is stamped.

I too have the "Ting" on the G string and sometimes the high E.

I love the looks of yours man, classic all the way.

I wanted to go in a more modern direction when i started thinking about getting a LP, i always see the Cherry Burst everywhere i look, i was either going to go with a honey/lemon color or go way out and get the one i got with maple board and all. Cant go any further out than that. Its everything a LP is not...LOL But i don`t care, i bought it for me and my tastes.

I got flock from a couple of guys saying don`t get that, it`s not a REAL LP unless it`s a burst and blah blah....... :gethim:

Enjoy it

:thumbsup:

Thanks man.

It`s a metal monster, i`m getting back into playing in standard tuning with it, been doing the drop B,C for too long. It feels good coming back home ha ha ha

Chris
 
7 Stringer":3cjkkg93 said:
Another thing that bothered me, not significant to the guitar itself at all but still,is mine has the serial ink screened on instead of stamped. I find this method cheap compared to a stamped in the wood one. My dad`s 2002 custom is stamped.

I too have the "Ting" on the G string and sometimes the high E.

I love the looks of yours man, classic all the way.

I wanted to go in a more modern direction when i started thinking about getting a LP, i always see the Cherry Burst everywhere i look, i was either going to go with a honey/lemon color or go way out and get the one i got with maple board and all. Cant go any further out than that. Its everything a LP is not...LOL But i don`t care, i bought it for me and my tastes.

I got flock from a couple of guys saying don`t get that, it`s not a REAL LP unless it`s a burst and blah blah....... :gethim:

Enjoy it

Your LP is every bit an LP and I think it looks great.
I was considering a blue when I was shopping.
I also like the Gary Moore Tribute in Lemon burst. Great looking LP with no binding.
It's basically an LP Standard with no binding and it sells for a great price.
If anyone is interested there are a few of those in GC's selling for around $1600!

The GC in Chicago has a Gary Moore Tribute for $1445!!!
That's a steal.

The burst colors are cool, but I'm glad Gibson has decided to move outside their bubble and offer cool new colors and finishes.
As for "real" LP's are in burst colors...really?
The all black Customs are highly regarded and classic just like the Gold tops and those aren't burst colors.

I wanted a burst but something a bit different, and when I first saw desert burst I was very drawn to it as it was a darker color.
I do wish that Gibson would have painted the back and neck in a dark red or maroon to compliment the darker desert burst instead of all black.
The black is ok, but you can't see any of the mahogany grain.
Honey burst is also a really cool burst, but the back and neck are painted an ugly shade of brown. It's not even a cool brown, it's more like....well.....poop colored brown. :lol: :LOL: No offense to those who have honey burst. The top is a great color, but man that back and neck color need addressing.
 
fuzzyguitars":1328jxew said:
think of it like this.

you wouldnt kick cindy crawford out of bed for her mole!

i love gibsons

quirks and all.

as far as setups are concerned, I do them all myself.

every guitarist needs to learn how to set up their own guitars to their playing style.

I find that all the new gibsons that I have bought from the plek era have been able to setup and play perfectly.

a little graphite and light sanding of the nut slots is rarely needed for the ones that i got.


NO I would not, and that's why I did buy my LP. :)

I do know how to do a basic set up, adjusting intonation, action, neck/truss rod, and even a bit of nut work.
I'm not versed in fret leveling or finish repair though.

Back in the day, you may recall, we used pencil lead and worked it into the nut grooves to give the strings some lubrication.
Now we have specifically made nut/string lube.
I am going to do a bit of sanding to the nut to smooth things out.

Still, my point stands.
There is NO reason why Gibson can't correct these things and take much better care to make these guitars perfect.
It's not like they are dropping their prices and thus lowering standards.
Quite the contrary, every year they raise their prices.
With that they need to up their quality.

Using graphite nuts is a positive step in the right direction to address that long standing issue/problem.
The problem with the finish where the neck meets the body is actually quite pathetic, and it's asking a lot of a customer to simply ignore and accept it just because of how great these guitars sound.
You will NOT see that type of poor workmanship on an ESP nor a lower cost ESP LTD. Major flaws like that would make that guitar a B stock with a lower price to sell it.
With Gibson they expect us to call it "character" and accept that it's part of the mystique of an LP.
What exactly constitutes B stock at Gibson? The majority of LP's I saw and played had this problem and none were B stock.
My LP is one of the worst I've seen.

Yes, I accepted it based on the over all looks and mostly on it's sound and excellent playability.
But I won't make excuses for Gibson nor accept.
It doesn't matter if I know how to set up a guitar.
That's something that I learned, and if Gibson were to sell B stock, then we could use our knowledge to correct the issues and take advantage of a discount.
As it is that's not how it works.

Now I have to figure out how to fix the flawed finish and orangy "peel".
If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix this issue please let me know.

I was thinking of lightly sanding the area and then applying a clear coat to cover both surfaces, the neck and body.
The clear coats should fill in the "peel" and reflect light smoother.

It'll be a little project at some point.
Right now I'm much more excited about getting more time to play this beauty.
I may have my bitches and complaints, but damn this is a fine guitar! as are most LP's, and we love them still. :)
 
7 Stringer":5mt8r7jv said:
Another thing that bothered me, not significant to the guitar itself at all but still,is mine has the serial ink screened on instead of stamped. I find this method cheap compared to a stamped in the wood one. My dad`s 2002 custom is stamped.


Enjoy it

Mine is stamped, but as you can see in the pic the stamping is very faint.
Most other LP's have a distinct and much deeper stamp.
As long as the serial number is readable that should be enough to identify it.

But even there Gibson can't be bothered to get it right.
It's like they have this, "ah, whatever, close enough. Screw those idiots who will buy it anyway." Then they all get good laugh, box up the guitar and ship to retail. :gethim:
 
Do 2013 LP Standards come with a pick/body guard?
My 2013 doesn't have one and it's not in the case either.
But I thought the 2013's didn't come with those?
 
C1-ocaster":10sj2igm said:
Do 2013 LP Standards come with a pick/body guard?
My 2013 doesn't have one and it's not in the case either.
But I thought the 2013's didn't come with those?


I know they used to have uninstalled in the cases if it was plus top, they may have stopped doing that in 2012.
 
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