My pedalboard is now complete. Please help me organize it.

[Joeytpg]

ok I have everything I need to start gigging........ the board has:

Way Huge Aqua Puss Delay
Cry Baby Wah Wah
Keeley Katana Boost
KEeley Compressor
Keeley fuzz
Xotic BB Preamp
Boss FBM-2 (Bassman pedal, set like a slight breakup bassman amp)
Boss ME-50 multi fx (this one will be in the loop for whenever I need chorus/modulation etc).

how would you orginize this if everything was going direct on the front of the amp?

the amps I'll use the board with are:

Diezel VH4
Egnater Renegade
Fender Princeton Rever RI combo
Duesentrieb Little Joe

 

[rlord1974]

Seems like you're missing a few key ingredients?....Buffer?....Tuner?

Also, wouldn't you want the delay in your loop as well? Regardless, I'll assume it's going in front of the amp, as you have indicated.....Based on that, I would recommend:

GUITAR --> Keeley Fuzz --> Buffer --> Compressor --> Boss FBM-2 --> BB Preamp --> Wah --> Delay --> Boost --> AMP

Some notes:
- I placed the Fuzz before the Buffer, as fuzzes often don't play nice if placed after a buffer in the signal path
- If the Boss FBM-2 has a built-in buffer, you could likely skip the dedicated buffer
- If you need a buffer, I HIGHLY recommend you talk to forum member Casey Hanson (http://www.fallout-labs.com) about making you a Stevia buffer, which is an AWESOME clean buffer circuit
- Some would place the FBM-2 and BB Preamp after the wah. I personally prefer them before.
- I personally prefer the Boost in front of my wah, as it can produce some great tones. Just make sure it doesn't overload the wah. You'll be able to hear it if it is.

The above is based on your specifications. Personally, I would set it up as follows:

GUITAR --> Keeley Fuzz --> Buffer --> Compressor --> Boss FBM-2 --> BB Preamp --> Boost --> Wah --> AMP

LOOP SEND --> Boss ME-50 --> Delay --> LOOP RETURN

This assumes you are only using the ME-50 for modulation effects.

Good luck!

 

[Joeytpg]

thank you man, some stuff I forgot:

I do hava korg tuner (forgot to write it down)

I don't have a buffer actually.

I wanna be able to use the board through the front of the amp in case I use my princeton reverb or if I go out of town and rent a nice fender combo.

I just don't wanna be loop dependable. If I use the rig through my VH4/Renegade I'll use the loop.

btw I play pop rock, lots of clean tones and very slightly overdriven tones.

 

[tweed]

You can also try putting your wah first in the chain.

 

[SkyhighRocks]

Don't forget a power supply.

 

[Joeytpg]

Don't forget a power supply.

actually, this one I don't have yet hehehe

I'm running everything on 9v batteries atm, but of course a powerblock is a must. My next purchase

 

[Joeytpg]

so you all recommend a buffer ?

 

[Fallout Labs]

i don't wanna get dinged for pimping but you need something like this:

there is a loop send / return before the buffer for fuzzes, a built in high-quality buffer, and is wired internally so switching between an amp with fx loop, and running the entire board straight into the amp is as easy as unplugging two cables.

 

[Joeytpg]

i don't wanna get dinged for pimping but you need something like this:

there is a loop send / return before the buffer for fuzzes, a built in high-quality buffer, and is wired internally so switching between an amp with fx loop, and running the entire board straight into the amp is as easy as unplugging two cables.

this looks interesting....where can I get this?

 

[rlord1974]

You buy it directly from Casey. He makes them, as well as any other custom creation you can think of.

He did a bunch of interface boxes such as that for my board, as well as built and wired my board. Absolutely top notch workmanship and turnaround times! Here's some pics of what he did for me:

 

[rlord1974]

so you all recommend a buffer ?

With that many true bypass pedals and long cable runs?....ABSOLUTELY.

 

[jlbaxe]

How can it be complete if you need to organize it

 

[Joeytpg]

How can it be complete if you need to organize it

I lol'd

 

[Joeytpg]

so you all recommend a buffer ?

With that many true bypass pedals and long cable runs?....ABSOLUTELY.

ok so, I'm very stupid when it comes to cabling and figuring out HOW do I need to set all this up...... so if ya would give me a hand to understand this bro I'd appreciate it.

I'll start slow:

I have amps with loops (VH4, Renegade, Little Joe) and I have a Fender combo with no loop. But I'd probably travel to places where I'd just rent a fender combo instead of bringing my amps, that's the reason why I wanna have the board work and sound perfect through the front of the amp.

So how would this little box work and what does it do?

 

[Fallout Labs]

So how would this little box work and what does it do?

running with an amp that HAS an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, "amp" goes to the amp input, "fxsnd" is from the amps fx send, "fxrtn" goes to the amps fx return.

running with an amp that DOESN'T have an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, fxrtn goes to the front of the amp. the interface is internally wired to automatically switch the board in series. not mucking with the wiring on the board. 2 cables, instead of 4.

 

[Joeytpg]

So how would this little box work and what does it do?

running with an amp that HAS an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, "amp" goes to the amp input, "fxsnd" is from the amps fx send, "fxrtn" goes to the amps fx return.

running with an amp that DOESN'T have an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, fxrtn goes to the front of the amp. the interface is internally wired to automatically switch the board in series. not mucking with the wiring on the board. 2 cables, instead of 4.

that sounds great, can you gimme prince on this? I might buy one from you

 

[rlord1974]

So how would this little box work and what does it do?

running with an amp that HAS an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, "amp" goes to the amp input, "fxsnd" is from the amps fx send, "fxrtn" goes to the amps fx return.

running with an amp that DOESN'T have an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, fxrtn goes to the front of the amp. the interface is internally wired to automatically switch the board in series. not mucking with the wiring on the board. 2 cables, instead of 4.

that sounds great, can you gimme prince on this? I might buy one from you

I guess Casey answered your question. He's the real expert anyways.

Trust me, this thing is the Lost Ark of The Covenant. Get one - they're killer.

 

[Fallout Labs]

So how would this little box work and what does it do?

running with an amp that HAS an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, "amp" goes to the amp input, "fxsnd" is from the amps fx send, "fxrtn" goes to the amps fx return.

running with an amp that DOESN'T have an effects loop:
guitar goes into the input, fxrtn goes to the front of the amp. the interface is internally wired to automatically switch the board in series. not mucking with the wiring on the board. 2 cables, instead of 4.

that sounds great, can you gimme prince on this? I might buy one from you

shoot me an email, casey@fallout-labs.com .. i get lost in pm's