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Pre-production CCV-100 #3 landed today. Thanks Bob. :rock:

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Did not think this would live up to the hype, but it's incredible. Can't wait to try it through the Creambacks I've got coming in the next few days.

It's not really as Marshall-y as I expected though. It's more like what the Bogner Ecstasy should have been if it stayed a bit closer to its 800/Plexi roots. Much more balanced upper mid content with a slight bump in the lower mids. Plus it has all of that aggressive treble and presence that Bogner dialed out. Low end varies greatly depending on the punch knob. All the way down, it's a bit bassier than a good JCM800, all the way up, it's got stupid amounts of bass.

The diode clipping is surprisingly good. At least the left option with the higher Vf zeners is. No significant clipping artifacts unless you've got the gain set lower, and why the **** would you throw in the zeners then? The right option is kinda meh though. Might need more tweaking. There's a bit of ducking and it sounds almost like you're blending in some clean signal too loudly. Plus it gets pretty compressed and I'm not a huge fan of that.

It's pretty tight, but has just enough sag in the low end to remind you that it's got a bit of Plexi in it. More modern sounding of course, but it kept everything good about the Marshall topology while getting rid of most of everyone's complaints.

Incredible clarity, Bob wasn't lying when he said it was as articulate or more so than an SLO. Handles complex chords with ease with both gain knobs dimed and it really showed when I started playing it, as I hadn't warmed up. :lol: :LOL:

Speaking of both gain knobs, there are two on the OD channel. They work in conjunction to give you different types of clipping. The right one seems to be a bit brighter and more aggressive, though they each have 3 way bright switches to they can be made to sound similar and you can just use them to dial in the exact amount of dirt that you want.

The clean channel is also great. Very Fender-ish and bright in certain settings, very early JTM45 in others. Plenty of gain on the channel too if you want it. Just dial up the gain knob and you also have the option of two diode clippers, plus another 3 way bright switch. Gets to early VH level gain, though it doesn't have quite enough mids for me to want the gain up that high. Could probably dial it in a little better if you wanted to go that way though.

The Punch knob also has a 3-way switch to determine the frequency that it acts upon. Subtle differences, but I suspect it would be useful when switching between a 212 and a 412 without having to adjust many other settings. Presence knob is the same and the difference is pretty pronounced there.

So ya, absolutely thrilled. :lol: :LOL:
 
Seems like the older ones don't have the extra "Drive" switch that the new ones have. I wonder what that's all about.
 
FourT6and2":2tlv3e6e said:
Seems like the older ones don't have the extra "Drive" switch that the new ones have. I wonder what that's all about.

Some do, some don't.
 
what's the family tree on this one?

my best one's didn't have the extra drive switch. they simply don't need it and just introduce some noise to the amp with the extra clipping.
 
Try throwing bright 2 all the way left and bright 1, all the way right.

Both gains at about 12 or 1 o'clock, with the 1st (least) clipping position engaged

Congrats on the NAD
 
Brass screws, raised letter metal name plate, I think that had the NOS jet fighter light as well. The attention to detail and quality is really amazing with some of these Pre-pros.
 
Why do some of these new amps have to go from bland to just flat out ugly?

Can't gear sound incredible AND look badass too?

Congrats on the new amp!
 
steve_k":1596mzk8 said:
what's the family tree on this one?

my best one's didn't have the extra drive switch. they simply don't need it and just introduce some noise to the amp with the extra clipping.

Bought it off of bobbtoz, who I believe was the original owner. Great seller. :thumbsup: Even shipped it in the original box.

And agreed. Can't see it needing any more gain as it's currently set up. Anymore and I feel like it would get a bit too compressed and lose the high end aggression. It's surprisingly quiet at pretty much any gain setting too. Even quieter than your old Hagen sitting underneath it at comparable gain levels.

jcj":1596mzk8 said:
Try throwing bright 2 all the way left and bright 1, all the way right.

Both gains at about 12 or 1 o'clock, with the 1st (least) clipping position engaged

Congrats on the NAD

Ha. No joke, that's about how I've got it set up now after some tweaking. The two gain controls are fantastic for dialing it in the exact quality of the distortion and the diode/transistor clippers are surprisingly great.

EXPcustom":1596mzk8 said:
Brass screws, raised letter metal name plate, I think that had the NOS jet fighter light as well. The attention to detail and quality is really amazing with some of these Pre-pros.

Ya, the amp is built rock solid. Dunno if Mark likes gut shots, but I snapped a few pics when I opened it to check the bias and get better access to the preamp tubes for rolling in some NOS 12AX7s. Here's a full shot of the insides.

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Badronald":1596mzk8 said:
Why do some of these new amps have to go from bland to just flat out ugly?

Can't gear sound incredible AND look badass too?

Congrats on the new amp!

:rock:

I don't think it looks too bad. Sorta industrial and plain. The less flash the better. Don't want anything getting lifted, especially this thing. :lol: :LOL:
 
That one has the color American Flag on the back as well right? Those were silk screened on there, not a sticker, those faceplates are really nice and thick.

I don't think Mark really cares about gut shots on these anymore, some guy on the SLOclones forum got the CCV schematics and old CCV parts from Barrang and posted them over there.
 
EXPcustom":x1ir0tbs said:
some guy on the SLOclones forum got the CCV schematics and old CCV parts from Barrang and posted them over there.

What a douche nozzle. Bet he felt proud of himself.....
 
Congrats. Killer amp. We'd love to hear some clips!
 
steve_k":2908szwb said:
EXPcustom":2908szwb said:
some guy on the SLOclones forum got the CCV schematics and old CCV parts from Barrang and posted them over there.

What a douche nozzle. Bet he felt proud of himself.....

Man, I'm more concerned about that fact that he got them from Barrang. That's incredibly unprofessional and honestly sounds like a violation of business ethics unless Brad or Mark gave them permission, which I seriously doubt. The reasons for the switch to Metro are becoming very clear. :no:

johnpace2":2908szwb said:
Congrats. Killer amp. We'd love to hear some clips!

Will do once I get those Creambacks on Friday. I feel like V30/K-100 combo I've got in my cab right now isn't doing the amp as much justice as those will. Plus I lost one of my mics and mic'ing up just one of those speakers sounds pretty bad. :lol: :LOL:
 
jcj":54qd9mq8 said:
FourT6and2":54qd9mq8 said:
Seems like the older ones don't have the extra "Drive" switch that the new ones have. I wonder what that's all about.

Some do, some don't.

Ya think?

steve_k":54qd9mq8 said:
what's the family tree on this one?

my best one's didn't have the extra drive switch. they simply don't need it and just introduce some noise to the amp with the extra clipping.

The CCV I have doesn't really have enough saturation unless I hit the Drive switch to the left or right. With it out of the circuit it's almost like JCM800. And that's with the Gain switch to the left or right. And I don't mean it doesn't have enough gain. I just mean that there's very little saturation, if that makes sense.

I've heard pre-pro. CCVs without the Drive switch and they have plenty of gain and saturation. So I'm wondering what the deal is with the newer ones and the Drive switch. Maybe the originals were wired the same as the new ones, but with the Drive switch "permanently" engaged?
 
FourT6and2":1p01zr3w said:
jcj":1p01zr3w said:
FourT6and2":1p01zr3w said:
Seems like the older ones don't have the extra "Drive" switch that the new ones have. I wonder what that's all about.

Some do, some don't.

Ya think?

steve_k":1p01zr3w said:
what's the family tree on this one?

my best one's didn't have the extra drive switch. they simply don't need it and just introduce some noise to the amp with the extra clipping.

The CCV I have doesn't really have enough saturation unless I hit the Drive switch to the left or right. With it out of the circuit it's almost like JCM800. And that's with the Gain switch to the left or right. And I don't mean it doesn't have enough gain. I just mean that there's very little saturation, if that makes sense.

I've heard pre-pro. CCVs without the Drive switch and they have plenty of gain and saturation. So I'm wondering what the deal is with the newer ones and the Drive switch. Maybe the originals were wired the same as the new ones, but with the Drive switch "permanently" engaged?

I am also curious why Mark changed the CCV specs when he went to the production model? :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
mmolteratx":2ss0461t said:
steve_k":2ss0461t said:
EXPcustom":2ss0461t said:
some guy on the SLOclones forum got the CCV schematics and old CCV parts from Barrang and posted them over there.

What a douche nozzle. Bet he felt proud of himself.....

Man, I'm more concerned about that fact that he got them from Barrang. That's incredibly unprofessional and honestly sounds like a violation of business ethics unless Brad or Mark gave them permission, which I seriously doubt. The reasons for the switch to Metro are becoming very clear. :no:

Ok, the story I heard and this is one of those things that was heard from another person that heard from someone else is Barrang had all their Cameron production stuff in a storage unit and it was not paid. Some electronics company that does recycling ended up with a bunch of the stuff here in NorCal when the storage place went up for auction and another person got some of the other stuff.

I remember seeing ads on Craigslist for CCV boards and such about three months ago here in the Bay Area so I called the guy and that's how I found out this info in case anyone was wondering.
 
I was the original owner of this amp. Glad it made it to Matt in one piece. Even though it's built like a brick house anything can happen during delivery. Now rock that shit!!!
 
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