New vs. old 1960 cabinets

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I have a JCM800 slant Marshall cabinet (mid 80's) has white label g12t-75s.
Also have a 2023 1960BV straight cab.

Is there going to be a big difference in sound/build quality between the two?
I was thinking about putting the G12t-75's into the straight cab, but was hesitant since it's not an old JCM800 cabinet.
Also would allow me to take advantage of the 4ohm switch.
 
I would ditch the switch. That's the component that usually fails in those cabs that takes a head with it. Hardwire a normal jack to the speakers with good wire and it will last. Those PC boards are trouble. Besides that, I usually have to gasket the back cover to get a tight seal on Marshall cabs. Once I do that, they are punchier.

On the cabs themselves though, I've never seen much difference in cabs over the years, but I haven't seen a really old or really new cab myself. I can't imagine they would tweak the recipe.
 
Then I would lose the option for 4ohm correct?
BeZo said:
I would ditch the switch. That's the component that usually fails in those cabs that takes a head with it. Hardwire a normal jack to the speakers with good wire and it will last. Those PC boards are trouble. Besides that, I usually have to gasket the back cover to get a tight seal on Marshall cabs. Once I do that, they are punchier.

On the cabs themselves though, I've never seen much difference in cabs over the years, but I haven't seen a really old or really new cab myself. I can't imagine they would tweak the recipe.
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unrelated but my mode 4 cab sucks....dark as fuck.....jonesed for one for years and finally got one and bleh....well it does not suck...I think Marshall fucked up when they specced those v30's....ymmv....
 
JackBootedThug said:
unrelated but my mode 4 cab sucks....dark as fuck.....jonesed for one for years and finally got one and bleh....well it does not suck...I think Marshall fucked up when they specced those v30's....ymmv....
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Those were the oversized cabs, right? Wasn't that Marshall's answer to the Mesa Recto cabs?
 
BeZo said:
Those were the oversized cabs, right? Wasn't that Marshall's answer to the Mesa Recto cabs?
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also there were tons of guys using 1960's with their mesa's....so when they came out I was like this will be killer. I was never able to find one and then I did. Plugged it in and compared to my cheaper avatar.....the avatar shits all over it. I was pretty bummed out actually. I bet the other model with the k100's is awesome though.
 
JackBootedThug said:
also there were tons of guys using 1960's with their mesa's....so when they came out I was like this will be killer. I was never able to find one and then I did. Plugged it in and compared to my cheaper avatar.....the avatar shits all over it. I was pretty bummed out actually. I bet the other model with the k100's is awesome though.
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Do love the K100s. I'd love to get my hands on a cab full of K100s.
 
JackBootedThug said:
also there were tons of guys using 1960's with their mesa's....so when they came out I was like this will be killer. I was never able to find one and then I did. Plugged it in and compared to my cheaper avatar.....the avatar shits all over it. I was pretty bummed out actually. I bet the other model with the k100's is awesome though.
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Avatar makes exceptional cabinets. I remember Lugo’s ampfest had one and I liked it a lot. So much that I looked up prices at the time to order two and they’re not budget cabs anymore.
 
JackBootedThug said:
unrelated but my mode 4 cab sucks....dark as fuck.....jonesed for one for years and finally got one and bleh....well it does not suck...I think Marshall fucked up when they specced those v30's....ymmv....
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I had those V30MF speakers (aka Hellatone 60Ls) in a Bogner 4x12 for a few years. I quite liked them. Darker than a V30 yes but I didn't find them overly dark by any means. More low end, low mids, but a bit MORE airy presence than stock V30s. But they have much less mids to upper mids compared to stock V30s so that is a factor as well. That oversized cab is contributing to the overly dark sound IMO.
 
thewolf49 said:
I have a JCM800 slant Marshall cabinet (mid 80's) has white label g12t-75s.
Also have a 2023 1960BV straight cab.

Is there going to be a big difference in sound/build quality between the two?
I was thinking about putting the G12t-75's into the straight cab, but was hesitant since it's not an old JCM800 cabinet.
Also would allow me to take advantage of the 4ohm switch.
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I have the exact same cabs. 80s jcm800 cab with 75s and a 2000s 1960bv cab with 30s. Together they sound insane. I don’t think there is a quality difference. Tbh. I will say the 75s sound muddy in comparison. But not bad. More muffled with a sweet high end.
 
needtopractice1 said:
I have the exact same cabs. 80s jcm800 cab with 75s and a 2000s 1960bv cab with 30s. Together they sound insane. I don’t think there is a quality difference. Tbh. I will say the 75s sound muddy in comparison. But not bad. More muffled with a sweet high end.
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I have both cabs as well. The switch did fail in the BV just like BeZo mentioned. But my Avatar with t75’s and V30’s smokes them both.
 
I have an oversized avatar 2 x 12 that sounds amazing with scumback m55's in it
it shits all over the newer [unknown year-2000's ] 1960 with stock 75's in it
 
JackBootedThug said:
unrelated but my mode 4 cab sucks....dark as fuck.....jonesed for one for years and finally got one and bleh....well it does not suck...I think Marshall fucked up when they specced those v30's....ymmv....
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I thought those came with K100's which are very dark.
 
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