NGD! Reviews, comparisons etc (VHT/Fryette content) ISP etc

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New Gear Includes:

VHT Fatbottom 4x12 straight :D
ISP decimator Pro rack :D
Planet waves cable station, 20 1/4" jacks, 50 feet of bulk cable for rack

Review: VHT FB 4x12, vs Deliverance 4x12

Just thought I would give my rundown on the FB cab, vs the Deliverance cab. Picked up a used one from GC, arrived the other day. Only amp I've used so far with it is my Diezel Herbert, as my Ultralead is at the shop for some noise issues. What is immediately apparent about this cab is how beamy/directional it is. It sounds much smaller than my Deliverance 4x12 when standing off to the side, however stand back back about 10 feet and you get this ridiculous thump and kick in the face. The thump on it is quite ridiculous, it really does pack a wallop, and stays EXTREMELY tight. It is very in your face, you really have to hear it to see what I am talking about. It rattles the floor on Palm mutes, and you can feel the ground shake beneath you alittle, no joke :D It stays uber tight, no noise, rattles, farting out, NONE. Compared to the Deliverance, the Deliverance offers much more sub bass frequencies, and is much more 3d, and bigger sounding. It really is amazing to me how 2 cabs with the same exact speakers, in 2 front loaded cabs can sound so vastly different. The general tone is the same sure, but the Deliverance has alot more feel, is MUCH bigger sounding, and fills the room more. It is warmer sounding I guess you could say due to its huge deep sub bass. It is not near as directional, however it will take your head off, and stays tighter than almost every other cab on the planet. It is still insanely tight, but with a bigger sub bass frequency bottom end, something the fatbottom doesn't deliver. I found that I had to reduce the bass on my herbert with the Deliverance, as it almost had too much bass with the same settings on the fatbottom. Something else I found, I felt I had to turn the gain up more on herbert when running through the fatbottom, vs running through the deliverance. The fatbottom does come off as slightly "dryer" I guess you could say...kinda interesting

All in all, they are both great cabinets, and definitely my favorite. At first, I liked the Deliverance more with the herbert, as they are both tighter than hell, but the Deliverance seems to just fit the herbie better, as the herbie is more like the Deliverance 4x12 than the fatbottom I guess you could say :D But now I'm not so sure. I haven't played my Ultralead thorugh the fatbottom cab yet, so cant decide yet which head will be played through which for the stereo rig. That is all carry on :D
 
the herbert sounds awesome though every cab i have tried it on. but the deliverance seems to absolutely kill with it. the vader sounds good with it too.

gonna spend more time with the ultra leads tomorrow and see if i can get the new decimator working with them, or at least one of them. the UL i just scored seems to be more mean than the tweed one. need to run them both and see what happens, but will have to find my amp switcher.

btw, be careful of having the herbert on top of the cab. we watched it slowly crawl across the top and almost fall off from the vibrations. we were laughing like little kids.
 
rottingcorpse":1tdraxxo said:
the herbert sounds awesome though every cab i have tried it on. but the deliverance seems to absolutely kill with it. the vader sounds good with it too.

gonna spend more time with the ultra leads tomorrow and see if i can get the new decimator working with them, or at least one of them. the UL i just scored seems to be more mean than the tweed one. need to run them both and see what happens, but will have to find my amp switcher.

btw, be careful of having the herbert on top of the cab. we watched it slowly crawl across the top and almost fall off from the vibrations. we were laughing like little kids.



:D :D Thats funny. Both of my heads are in a rack, so no worries :D let me know how the decimator works. I got mine today, however the MORONS at GC I bought it from (in a store over 1500 miles away) sent me a wrong power supply...a freakin I spot DC pedal power supply....freakin morons
 
VESmedic":1xtqy3wb said:
let me know how the decimator works. I got mine today, however the MORONS at GC I bought it from (in a store over 1500 miles away) sent me a wrong power supply...a freakin I spot DC pedal power supply....freakin morons

WOW! that is a ridiculous mistake for them to make.
 
mrkmas":gty6e7df said:
VESmedic":gty6e7df said:
let me know how the decimator works. I got mine today, however the MORONS at GC I bought it from (in a store over 1500 miles away) sent me a wrong power supply...a freakin I spot DC pedal power supply....freakin morons

WOW! that is a ridiculous mistake for them to make.



I know, what idiots....After you and i JUST discussed this no less! lol, really urked me. I got your PM man, sorry haven't gotten back to ya. sorry no pics yet, waiting till my UL gets back. Plus for some reason I can't get enough light in the room for the back of the rack to really light up!
 
VESmedic":1zauyi6d said:
mrkmas":1zauyi6d said:
VESmedic":1zauyi6d said:
let me know how the decimator works. I got mine today, however the MORONS at GC I bought it from (in a store over 1500 miles away) sent me a wrong power supply...a freakin I spot DC pedal power supply....freakin morons

WOW! that is a ridiculous mistake for them to make.



I know, what idiots....After you and i JUST discussed this no less! lol, really urked me. I got your PM man, sorry haven't gotten back to ya. sorry no pics yet, waiting till my UL gets back. Plus for some reason I can't get enough light in the room for the back of the rack to really light up!


No worries man. Im glad we had the conversation when we did about power or this could have gone badly.
 
rottingcorpse what power tubes do you have in your herbert again? i forget
 
VESmedic":236xkuai said:
rottingcorpse what power tubes do you have in your herbert again? i forget

el34's. wanna run kt88's like the ultra lead and the kerry king heads i have.

but as it sounds now, i am almost afraid to mess with it at all. still have not plugged in an isp sub into the herbert yet. i do plan to spend a few hours experimenting tomorrow. need to try to get the isp into the UL's loop tomorrow too. i actually have a BUNCH of stuff i need to try in that room tomorrow.
 
Dude you HAVE to try KT88's/6550s, its freaking insane. Right now I have 4 Winged C 6550s, and 2 E34Ls, and it just rocks. The herbert is too round sounding for my taste without the 6550s. They keep all the goodness of the El34s, while adding that razor tight low end. More aggressive, more brutal etc. Definitely a fan of this combo, much better than stock for my states.
 
Thanks for the comparison ..... are you going to add more when you get your UL back ?
 
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