Noob at Floyd Rose! Experts come in

[peterc52]

I need help for setting up this FR.

I’ve bought these from FU tone. Noiseless and heavy duty.

But there’s only 3??? How do I put them? Should I pull the middle ESP stabilizer?

How would you do it? I’m not used to play on vibrator guitars so trying to make it more like a hard tail but still able to use the vibrato. Can’t stand when I bend and it follow up too and I need to bend further

Also if I use the FR much it’s go a bit out of tune. Is it possible to repair the knifes on a FR?

 

[marvcus]

What is your string gauge? Personally, I think four springs on anything below 11s is too much

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

 

[peterc52]

What is your string gauge? Personally, I think four springs on anything below 11s is too much

Std tuning 46-10

 

[Findthetone1]

I'd try 2 on the top string side and the 3rd on the bottom and see if it sits straight on the posts. Those are the HD springs. You can probably use 2 on 10s with no problem, though.

 

[marvcus]

I think the easiest solution, rereading your post, would be to purchase 1 more spring. That way you can keep the consistent tension as you have to keep the Floyd decked, without having to make major adjustments.

Sorry I can’t help on the knife edge issue, as I’m not an expert there. But I would just ensure the posts are stable.

 

[rsm]

I'd think 4 springs would be too much tension for me. I'd have to look to see what I have; I usually keep the stock springs, put a set of my preferred stings, get the FR setup right the first time, and it usually works from there. For my FR guitars, I use Ernie Ball RPS 10 (10 - 46) sets.

when I change strings, I block the bridge so it stays level, remove all the strings, reset the fine tuners to their centers; put the new set on; then tune it; stretch it; a few times until it's in tune; unblock the bridge; then tune; stretch, use the bar until everything is level and in tune; lock down the nut, and use the fine tuners. I rarely have to adjust the springs after the initial set up.

 

[demondestroyer]

Stretch the strings very well and retune before locking the nut and lube the knife edges with chap stick for starters with tuning stability. Also make sure all metal to wood contacts are snug/tight so nothing is moving and causing tuning issues.

 

[WizardAmpIphoneClip]

I usually lay the the guitar face down in my lap() with the bar facing backwards, press it back (like a pull up) to get the springs out. Some bridges might pull right off the posts this way. Making fretboard cleaning easier.
One thing that will help is to stretch after clamping down and final fine tuning.
Make sure the locking nut is tight to the neck also.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

If you want to hard tail it stiff without an extra block, 3 springs is more than enough. Separate each by a space and then sink the claw screws as deep as they’ll go.
Caveat, a useable trem that will stay in tune is out of the question now with this setup. I’ve already written enough on this subject elsewhere here but it’s either/or as the unit isn’t designed for ‘kinda’.
If I need some more oomph out of a spring I will cut a loop or 2 off -essentially shorting the spring.- Hookes Law.

 

[fantom]

Also if I use the FR much it’s go a bit out of tune. Is it possible to repair the knifes on a FR?

Pictures of the screws and knife edges?

Before you consider a hardware issue, make sure you stretch the crap out of the strings.

The schaller has replaceable knife edges. The OFR and clones don't. If the posts are a softer alloy than the base plate, you might be able to replace the posts. I have tried filing an OFR baseplate. It didn't help. It it did waste quite a bit of time. You also might want to check that the post inserts are secure in the guitar. If the posts are not stable, you can easily get out of tune.

Usually replacing the bridge is the fix. Just be careful if it is a licensed trem, as the routes are not consistent across OEMs. If you go this route, make sure you check the post sizes, cavity depth, and the size of the coupler for the floyd arm.

 

[shar-vell Dan]

Don't need all that.

 

[OldGtrGuy]

In my opinion that stabilizer is getting in the way.

If 4 is too much switch to 2.

 

[fantom]

In my opinion that stabilizer is getting in the way.

If 4 is too much switch to 2.

Ya, should definitely just remove it and check. If it works out, using the 3 new springs in a traditional \|/ pattern would be fine for 10-46.

 

[Metlupass2]

 

[Racerxrated]

You shouldn't have any issues with the knife edges IF it's a German Floyd. The only issue I've had was with a Schaller Floyd, the came stock on my old USA Hamer. That one had knife edge 'inserts' that eventually cracked and that was it for that bridge.
If you have a tuning issue after using the bar, then it's either the strings still need stretching or the locking nut isn't locking down properly. Sometimes the nut locks develop grooves and that will allow the string to slip out of tune. Best to get some new ones as they are usually cheap.