Opinions wanted please. Fryette Pitbull UL v. Fortin

[diagrammatiks]

I guess the thread title says it all already.

To those have you who have played or heard both how do you think the Fortin Amps compare to the Pitbull? The Meathead is probably too much for me but the Bones and Natas definitely seem interesting.

I'm concerned primarily with gain level, saturation, articulation as well as 7/8string and baritone performance.

Thanks a lot.

Any links to resources would be great too.

 

[Digital Jams]

Only played the Natas once so far but listened to it for hours and have experience with the UL, I really like both amps but for shear performance in the upper volume ranges the Natas is on another level. Stupid amounts of headroom and articulation for days. The Bones is a different amp than the UL but it does in spades what you are looking for.

 

[stratotone]

Sounds like I better avoid the Fortins because I luuuuvvvv my UL!

 

[Digital Jams]

Sounds like I better avoid the Fortins because I luuuuvvvv my UL!

Yes you would, yes you would

 

[diagrammatiks]

I've got a SLO100 which does everything I need for 6 strings that amp isn't going anywhere.

The Deliverance120 I had and now the UL blows it away in baritone and drop tuning though.

How much gain do you think the NATAS has? Any word on it's preamp structure? I'm assuming at least 5 gain stages?

 

[Robotechnology]

Strictly for 7/8 string use, I think the U-L is probably the value choice. I think of most Fortin's as ultimate hot rodded marshall types and I just don't equate 7/8 strings with that kind of tone. Of course I only have some limited experience with Bones/Meathead (no Natas) and moderate experience with a Cali mod (so maybe the Cali mod is skewing my thoughts). The Meathead would work though, no Bones (pun intended) about it. To sum up, the U-L is more affordable but, the Meathead is ultra tweakable (like the U-L) but, even more so and has even more tones locked up inside it. Meathead > U-L > Bones > Cali (have NO idea where Natas would fall). This is all with respect to 7/8 strings btw imo.

 

[Digital Jams]

Strictly for 7/8 string use, I think the U-L is probably the value choice. I think of most Fortin's as ultimate hot rodded marshall types and I just don't equate 7/8 strings with that kind of tone. Of course I only have some limited experience with Bones/Meathead (no Natas) and moderate experience with a Cali mod (so maybe the Cali mod is skewing my thoughts). The Meathead would work though, no Bones (pun intended) about it. To sum up, the U-L is more affordable but, the Meathead is ultra tweakable (like the U-L) but, even more so and has even more tones locked up inside it. Meathead > U-L > Bones > Cali (have NO idea where Natas would fall). This is all with respect to 7/8 strings btw imo.

Hey Ivan

Mike's production stuff is not marshall based and the Natas was built for 7-8 strings in mind, it holds together no matter what we threw at it that day and several guys were tuned down quite a bit. I agree the Cali stuff is more for 80s, trash, fusion, etc. Plus most cali stuff has the stock iron which is way inferior to Mike's trannies. We had my cali ripping and then a Bones and in upper volumes the Bones was just laying the wood to my amp

The very cool thing is that even though the Natas is a metal engineered amp it has great cleans and cleans up very nice with the fiddle pot.

 

[Sixtonoize]

You might want to ask in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75437

Since i know of a group of 5 guys who, just yesterday, got to hear the UL and the Bones through the same cab being driven by the same 7-string guitar and give both amps a go with their own guitars.

 

[thegame]

I've got a SLO100 which does everything I need for 6 strings that amp isn't going anywhere.

The Deliverance120 I had and now the UL blows it away in baritone and drop tuning though.

How much gain do you think the NATAS has? Any word on it's preamp structure? I'm assuming at least 5 gain stages?

The amount of gain an amp produces isn't dependent on the # of gain stages as much as how each stage is setup and driven. E.g, some classic old Fender amps have quite a few gain stages, but they are no where near maxed out, so the tone remains clean and clear, typical Fender. Then there's a few quite famous amp modders, very popular on this forum, who manage to get tons of gain out of only 3 gain stages.

The beauty of the Natas design is that ultra low tunings sound clearer, crisper than you can possibly imagine, until you play it yourself. Its also possible for standard tuned guitars to be dialed in to sound fat and warm. All this is possible due to the powerful tone shaping options the amp has.

 

[diagrammatiks]

He's making them now but only a few are out in the wild right?
I don't think the slo is going anywhere but I'm not super attached to the ul I guess. Time to wait. I find I have no gas right now . It kinda sucks that the natas is the only thing I'm looking forward too. I feel despondent.

 

[Capulin Overdrive]

check into the Dar amps, Forza Quattro or Tuzzia!

 

[midnightlaundry]

Back from the dead.

Who actually owns a Fortin? They must be hot shit judging by the price he's charging.

 

[hopkinWFG]

Hey what about a wizard MC2 or MTL ?

 

[lowmantotempole]

Back from the dead.

Who actually owns a Fortin? They must be hot shit judging by the price he's charging.

I got mine used for a reasonable price. My Bones modded JCM800 does it all. I actually find myself using the smooth setting with less gain for the drop tunings and 7 string stuff.