Yep tried all those too. Good amps for the money. I actually really like the way the Oranges look. If you want low to medium gain the best amps I’ve come across to me have been imo Gjika, Jim Kelley, ‘60’s Plexi’s, Xits, Alessandro’s, and Tim Schroeder. They’ll spoil you and kill gas for those othersI have never played one. i was always turned off by the color. Now i just have this kinda stupid interest in low gain amps, i suppose you could say...Laney, orange, etc..