Orange sprague cap

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I have a old .01 orange cap from an organ amp. It's 600 DC and 10%. Would I be able to use it with a tone pot? Also anybody know how to measure a cap? It has a bunch of bumblebee caps it too I think.
 
you'll need a DMM that does capacitance. i have a little cheap one, and it measures well enough. i just bought a new DMM that does capacitance, but only to 1000pf on the low end (the lil cheap one does down to 0pf). they're both pretty accurate in relation to each other.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/top-quality-601 ... 27cbddd97f

thats the one i bought a while ago. it works good. on the lower (pf) settings, it is more sensitive to calibration settings.
 
Thanks yeti.
No input on if I can use the .01 600 DC cap on my tone pot?
 
id' imagine you're talking about putting it in a guitar tone circuit, not an amp?

snap a quick pic of it..... .01 600 dc most likely means it's a .01mf cap, or a 103 (depending on drift due to age and variance).

anyways, to give you an idea, gibson uses 203 caps between volume and tone on their humbucker setups, which would translate to a .022 mf cap.

check out this post if you want...some 10 minutes to read. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=66566&p=1455163&hilit=varitone#p1455163

what is the rating of the pots you will be using?
 
you can use it. the voltage just means its way overated for the use but it will work. I love doing the treble bleed mod. all my guitars have it. I like to retain the treble as I turn down the volume.
 
jerrydyer":dlxh2a79 said:
you can use it. the voltage just means its way overated for the use but it will work. I love doing the treble bleed mod. all my guitars have it. I like to retain the treble as I turn down the volume.
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me too Jerry. i have found with most humbuckers i like anywhere from 270pf to 470pf.

pickup dependent of course....
 
jerrydyer":rpoicfkj said:
you can use it. the voltage just means its way overated for the use but it will work. I love doing the treble bleed mod. all my guitars have it. I like to retain the treble as I turn down the volume.
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How's this mod done? Also it's an old cap fom an tube amp off an organ. Will it have degraded over time and if so would it cut off more or less treble?

Yeti I'll post a pic tomorrow. I'm on an iPad and the damn thing won't upload a photo.
 
tripstan":2bkxq9sx said:
jerrydyer":2bkxq9sx said:
you can use it. the voltage just means its way overated for the use but it will work. I love doing the treble bleed mod. all my guitars have it. I like to retain the treble as I turn down the volume.
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How's this mod done? Also it's an old cap fom an tube amp off an organ. Will it have degraded over time and if so would it cut off more or less treble?

Yeti I'll post a pic tomorrow. I'm on an iPad and the damn thing won't upload a photo.
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it's quite possible that the value has drifted one way or another.

.01mf might be a tad high for a treble bleed mod. i can't say one way or another though, as i didn't do the varitone experiment with it like i did with the caps i put on the varitone then wired it between volume and tone knob.

but to answer your question, it's this simple:

Treble-Bleed-mode-1.jpg


you can do some quick googling with refined search results in respect to your particular guitar.

i have found that in most cases i like anywhere from 240pf to 500 pf depending on the pickup(s) and the guitar, but mainly the pickup(s).

it can get quite hair splitting regarding tone caps, what kind, NOS, etc. i like plain old ceramic disc caps...theyre cheap, they sound great, and have contributed to thousands of popular recordings. i can't hear the difference between ceramic, sprague, paper, mallory, orange drops, etc, in my guitars....the value/rating is much more important than what kind of cap you buy.

what guitar(s) with what pickups will you be trying it in? i think the one you have is a popular choice for telecasters and bright pickup setups like that IIRC.
 
Just soldering it in and trying would've taken less time than posting a thread about it ? :confused:

Giga
 
yeti":2cgahq8t said:
jerrydyer":2cgahq8t said:
you can use it. the voltage just means its way overated for the use but it will work. I love doing the treble bleed mod. all my guitars have it. I like to retain the treble as I turn down the volume.
Click to expand...

me too Jerry. i have found with most humbuckers i like anywhere from 270pf to 470pf.

pickup dependent of course....
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yeah. im not sure but i think I use the 220k or 330k res and a 330pf. need to open and recheck.
 
te original post was actually about tone caps but we hijacked it
dimarzio usually includes a little diagram in the container a pick up comes in
tradionally its a 220k and a 250 pf cap piggybacked from in to out of the volume pot. easy to google for a diagram too. if i were computer savi id pop it up. but since im not I have to go find it , print it , scan it, post it to photobucket then attach it to my message her. "Aint noone got time for dat" I gotta go get me a cold pop.
 
jerrydyer":7z0mqkoq said:
te original post was actually about tone caps but we hijacked it
dimarzio usually includes a little diagram in the container a pick up comes in
tradionally its a 220k and a 250 pf cap piggybacked from in to out of the volume pot. easy to google for a diagram too. if i were computer savi id pop it up. but since im not I have to go find it , print it , scan it, post it to photobucket then attach it to my message her. "Aint noone got time for dat" I gotta go get me a cold pop.
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agreed, easier to google...i think thats' the one recommended by Seymour Duncan too.

i dont like the resistor in there, changes the feel of the pot too much for me, and i'm just really used to whats in my guitars, so it's cap only.
 
Giga":1i67bxya said:
Just soldering it in and trying would've taken less time than posting a thread about it ? :confused:

Giga
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i think he was more worried about if he could safely do it or not.
 
yeti":17kz2yz0 said:
Giga":17kz2yz0 said:
Just soldering it in and trying would've taken less time than posting a thread about it ? :confused:

Giga
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i think he was more worried about if he could safely do it or not.
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Yup more worried about safety. Didn't want to blow a pot and I'm a noob with electronic so I thougth I'd ask the fellas here. Thanks for the treble bleed input too. I looked at some schematics but I wanted a second opinion from people who have actually done it, as there is a few different options.

You might shake your head at this question but why have a cap on the tone pot? Could you just not use a cap?
 
a cap between the volume and tone pot or from tone lug 1 to ground is different than a treble bleed cap.

they do two different things.

google guitar tone pot

then google treble bleed
 
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