Ozzy reunion with Jake E Lee!!!

[guitarnerdswe]

I agree, Ritchie Kotzen and Jake E Lee don't get the attention they deserve. Ritchie can sing and write with the best of them. Both Ritchie shows I went to over the last few years (Key Club in LA and the Mercy Lounge in Nashville). It was like 100 to 150 people..90% guitar players and 10 % spouses! Thats sad..cause Ritchie is so much more then just a shredding guitarist. His daughter can sing pretty good to.. She could be a star with talent..if she was on Hanna Montana

The fact that Richie isn't an international megastar is just a crime.

 

[verderacer]

You can play a dokken riff after three years guitar wanking.......copy the above mentioned electro songs, push buttons.......do it!
I´ll be there, sometimes I feel ashamed of typical guitarists, you can instantly distinguish ignorant morons if you encounter...."he is only pushing buttons..."
My guess:
Bible belt? Fly over country? 24/7 play station connoisseur?

Kai

You have your opinion, we have ours...

Personally I find nothing interesting or impressive in anything you have posted especially in the last links. Towshend, Froese, Mothersbaughs, Eno, Zappa, all did it decades before anything you have listed and they all did it the old fashioned way. Surely you have not a very much understanding of music and history.

Isnt there a current tv commercial of an old Wilco song being done on a Samsung Evo to show how easy it is?

Now folks, we return to our regularly scheduled program.

 

[Chubtone]

no.....nones mentioned "gay music" yet.....typical moron speech!

You did. You mentioned it. You also mentioned bible belt and fly over country. Are you trying to politicize a discussion about Jake E Lee and Ozzy Osbourne on a guitar forum? The music we are talking about and remembering originated and was mainly created by people not in or from the bible belt or fly over country.

Extremely bizarre and wacky, yet we are the morons.

We were having a fairly cool discussion here. A sort of throwback and reminiscing of a time when Jake E Lee was in Ozzy's band. I don't think any of us requested a lecture by some self important, superiority complex filled

 

[Heritage Softail]

"the whole guitar hero things died in 1985"

I'm sure Activision would disagree with this moronic statement since they made about a billion dollars off this little video game franchise named "Guitar Hero".
Back then we learned to play actual instruments instead of pushing buttons like most of the kids today.
There was a time and place for shitty barre chord beating bands without any real musical talent....it was called the 90's and it's long gone too. Now there's a whole lot of terrible garbage that not only takes no talent to play, but all sounds exactly the same....like most of the current screamy down-tuned so called "Metal".
There's a reason bands sold out arena's in the 80's and now it takes 10-12 band "fests" to sell out the same amount of seats. Most current music is just plain lame, and the music industry is all but dead.

Pushing Buttons

I I know you are american....certainly never heard of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MWfJE3ejI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7MjKeT4Ccw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEb2FrQUbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEKzbCX2w-o
Do not be stupid..

Perhaps you can measure the IQ of a typical real instrument "rocker" vs electro afficiando....guess what!

You can play a dokken riff after three years guitar wanking.......copy the above mentioned electro songs, push buttons.......do it!
I´ll be there, sometimes I feel ashamed of typical guitarists, you can instantly distinguish ignorant morons if you encounter...."he is only pushing buttons..."
My guess:
Bible belt? Fly over country? 24/7 play station connoisseur?

Kai

Copy a song, push buttons, do it...

There is no denying your superior musicianship.


Electro Aficionado

And it just adds to the irony of you condescending post that you spelled Aficionado wrong.

 

[Chubtone]

Pushing Buttons

I I know you are american....certainly never heard of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MWfJE3ejI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7MjKeT4Ccw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEb2FrQUbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEKzbCX2w-o
Do not be stupid..

Perhaps you can measure the IQ of a typical real instrument "rocker" vs electro afficiando....guess what!

You can play a dokken riff after three years guitar wanking.......copy the above mentioned electro songs, push buttons.......do it!
I´ll be there, sometimes I feel ashamed of typical guitarists, you can instantly distinguish ignorant morons if you encounter...."he is only pushing buttons..."
My guess:
Bible belt? Fly over country? 24/7 play station connoisseur?

Kai

I just listened to your examples here. I'm sure there are many, many musicians who would love to discuss these musical styles and what it takes to produce them with you. Unfortunately, none of them are here. Do you just pop into random forums and try and impress everyone with your self-annointed intellectual and artistic supremacy?

How about finding a muscle car forum and insulting them for not wanting to talk about hybrids?

How about finding a cooking forum and insulting them for not being vegan?

How many times can I post a photo of a douche bag before it becomes redundant?

 

[Rash]

I play guitar since 1985, can also play dokken and halen songs, play bass, speak 3 languages (with errors)....no spanish

I do not see boundaries, the reason cock rock died is the lack of expressions and open minded musicians....

Grunge was not a style of music, it was a vast number of completely!!! different bands, some could play, some not, but you do not need to play that good for some styles, good guitar wanking does not imply good music and appropriate expression. Simple as this.................look the lyrics, contents, used bass and drum grooves, harmonies, tempos, textures......completely boring after 1986 hair rock, the reason it died, the 30 seconds guitar solo (mostly completely non-original) does not capture the spirit or saves the output....

Kai

 

[Rash]

To bring it back on topic, I was quite a bit astonished when listening the first 2 ozzy albums after hearing Jake play the 1985 live shows, preferred very much jake´s sound, phrasing and soli.

Kai

 

[Greg Riley]

You nailed it...

Pushing Buttons

I I know you are american....certainly never heard of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MWfJE3ejI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7MjKeT4Ccw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEb2FrQUbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEKzbCX2w-o
Do not be stupid..

Perhaps you can measure the IQ of a typical real instrument "rocker" vs electro afficiando....guess what!

You can play a dokken riff after three years guitar wanking.......copy the above mentioned electro songs, push buttons.......do it!
I´ll be there, sometimes I feel ashamed of typical guitarists, you can instantly distinguish ignorant morons if you encounter...."he is only pushing buttons..."
My guess:
Bible belt? Fly over country? 24/7 play station connoisseur?

Kai

I just listened to your examples here. I'm sure there are many, many musicians who would love to discuss these musical styles and what it takes to produce them with you. Unfortunately, none of them are here. Do you just pop into random forums and try and impress everyone with your self-annointed intellectual and artistic supremacy?

How about finding a muscle car forum and insulting them for not wanting to talk about hybrids?

How about finding a cooking forum and insulting them for not being vegan?

How many times can I post a photo of a douche bag before it becomes redundant?

 

[Philo Beddoe]

Better "Emo" IMHO kicks white trailer trash dick hair rock metal each time (beside the solo guitar spot) what is your problem...
suck this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmdmnnv2NkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BiOITZHC8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tap5nf3GQEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLr5EXyoQCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kiOncD_ ... re=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZjgXRQsXpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBCbAI9O ... re=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoH5MPIgM7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyAii6f-hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZrKqwVkzBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_efKAvFnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBn24MYB ... 86F01AAB31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UomunyBzR2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXcuG28qHsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOYphK94 ... ure=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlgU-8dMYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4aapp1JtWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZLkl15_d8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60Y323q ... ure=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDqoJPVa ... B71D9E3743


Better lyrics, more different! guitar sounds, superior instrumentation, better arrangements, better rhythms, better bass players, better vibe, better drummers, brighter people, more energy, darker, cooler self non chick conscious women, lack of stupid pricks and football idiots, no wining that you did not make it.....

Cock rock was rightfully destroyed in the late 80ties, it was long overdue IMHO...

The reason kotzen "does not make it", stupid red neck lyrics/viedos, boring cliché bad hendrix rip offs, stupid image of your beer drinking pal, as he had a car crash in the 70ties, groundhog day since then, as interesting as fox tv....

The guitarist crowd is the lamest, narrow minded, corny, boring people you can impress, they are searching for instrument master-ship an "deserved fame" .................10000000 Chinese or Russian viola players kill typical guitar mag. guitarists............it was never about guitar solos, even in the 70ties, it is the "whole package" whole picture.....without that => wanking music.....the whole guitar hero things died in 1985, after that...............nothing

Want instrument master ship, listen to classical music, jazz......be serious, not prepared scale wanking, every evening the same, not that big deal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ywkpVJ624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do2cwVLF ... ure=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2MO8jpDC1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBJPVnJ8m-Y

yours
Kai

Trash

 

[Rash]

Thanks for not listening!

But no, the future!

Cut your hair, drop the pimp/lady outfit and corny pink guitars, sell your muscle car, stop taking anabolic, make music that matters and reflects reality/feelings.

Do not hope that a 65 year old will bring back your wet teenage childhood dreams!

Simple as this!

 

[Chubtone]

No, it's as simple as this. Stop telling us what to do. Stop telling us what to like. Stop telling us where the future is. Most of us don't care. We choose to like a certain kind of music because we like what we want to like. You are a 42 year old man trying to be hip, trying to stay current, trying to stay relevant. You have probably been chasing every trend for the past 26 years. As you lecture us about the music industry and the future have you pondered that you are an old man? Musically you are ancient. No one hip wants to discover or listen to the next big thing when it's some 40 something year old man.

We have a saying for old guys that bouce from one trend to another and don't realize everyone is laughing at their attempts to be current. Hipster dufus.

Long live the guitar solo Suck it emo bitches....

So we have this guy above. He knows where he is forum wise. He knows who he is talking to. He knows his chance of offending anyone at THIS forun is extremely low.

Than we have you.

Better "Emo" IMHO kicks white trailer trash dick hair rock metal each time (beside the solo guitar spot) what is your problem...
suck this

Better lyrics, more different! guitar sounds, superior instrumentation, better arrangements, better rhythms, better bass players, better vibe, better drummers, brighter people, more energy, darker, cooler self non chick conscious women, lack of stupid pricks and football idiots, no wining that you did not make it.....

Cock rock was rightfully destroyed in the late 80ties, it was long overdue IMHO...

The reason kotzen "does not make it", stupid red neck lyrics/viedos, boring cliché bad hendrix rip offs, stupid image of your beer drinking pal, as he had a car crash in the 70ties, groundhog day since then, as interesting as fox tv....

The guitarist crowd is the lamest, narrow minded, corny, boring people you can impress, they are searching for instrument master-ship an "deserved fame" .................10000000 Chinese or Russian viola players kill typical guitar mag. guitarists............it was never about guitar solos, even in the 70ties, it is the "whole package" whole picture.....without that => wanking music.....the whole guitar hero things died in 1985, after that...............nothing

yours
Kai

I I know you are american....certainly never heard of:
Do not be stupid..

Perhaps you can measure the IQ of a typical real instrument "rocker" vs electro afficiando....guess what!

You can play a dokken riff after three years guitar wanking.......copy the above mentioned electro songs, push buttons.......do it!
I´ll be there, sometimes I feel ashamed of typical guitarists, you can instantly distinguish ignorant morons if you encounter...."he is only pushing buttons..."
My guess:
Bible belt? Fly over country? 24/7 play station connoisseur?

Kai

no.....nones mentioned "gay music" yet.....typical moron speech!

So one quote about being into guitar solos and emo bitches on a forum where very, very few are into that sort of music and you retort with enough offensive material to offend almost everyone here.

Congratulations on being able to speak three languages. I'm sure that is relevant to this discussion somehow. Oh, that's right, you are intellectually superior.

You, my friend, are an arschloch.

 

[Gainzilla]

I play guitar since 1985, can also play dokken and halen songs, play bass, speak 3 languages (with errors)....no spanish

I do not see boundaries, the reason cock rock died is the lack of expressions and open minded musicians....

Grunge was not a style of music, it was a vast number of completely!!! different bands, some could play, some not, but you do not need to play that good for some styles, good guitar wanking does not imply good music and appropriate expression. Simple as this.................look the lyrics, contents, used bass and drum grooves, harmonies, tempos, textures......completely boring after 1986 hair rock, the reason it died, the 30 seconds guitar solo (mostly completely non-original) does not capture the spirit or saves the output....

Kai

And your point? everything that youve said is NOTHING more than your own self important OPINION. When challenged on it, you resort to insults.

Youre on a roll..

BTW, The part in bold makes no sense and my translator isnt having any luck with it either. Can you clarify?

Kage

 

[Chubtone]

my translator isnt having any luck with it either. Can you clarify?

Kage

Kage,
How is your translator doing on Arshloch?

 

[Gainzilla]

my translator isnt having any luck with it either. Can you clarify?

Kage

Kage,
How is your translator doing on Arshloch?

[/quote] It had no problem with that I understand that English is not fraulein Kai's first language so Im willing to cut him some slack but that part was baffling...

 

[Shiny_Surface]

As much as some of what Rash wrote stings, there are a few nuggets of truth in there at least to me I will admit...lol.

 

[Gainzilla]

As much as some of what Rash wrote stings, there are a few nuggets of truth in there at least to me I will admit...lol.

Thats because the whole discussion is subjective and some of it might resonate with you. Hell, a broken clock is right twice a day. Theres no reason that this Teutonic Twat Defector cant be as well..

 

[verderacer]

As much as some of what Rash wrote stings, there are a few nuggets of truth in there at least to me I will admit...lol.

Thats because the whole discussion is subjective and some of it might resonate with you. Hell, a broken clock is right twice a day. Theres no reason that this Teutonic Twat Defector cant be as well..

 

[Rash]

oh come on.....it was short, did not want to hijack this thread......

it is about music, not me!

lemme use my soft skills

Big Blacks Kerosene:

I was born in this town
live here my whole life
probably come to die in this town
live here my whole life
never anything to do in this town
live here my whole life
never anything to do in this town
probably learn to die in this town
live here my whole life
nothing to do
sit around at home
sit around at home
nothing to do
stare at the walls
stare at each other
wait til we die
stare at each other
wait til we die
probably come to die in this town
live here my whole life
theres Kerosene around
something to do
theres Kerosene around X2
she's something to do
theres Kerosene around
[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/kerosene-lyr ... black.html ]
find something to do
theres Kerosene around
shes somethind to do
theres Kerosene
set me on fire...Kerosene X4


KEROSENE
SET ME ON FIRE
(false end)
Kerosene around
shes something
Kerosene around
now what do we do
theres Kerosene
now what do we do
jump Kerosene
now what do we do
Kerosene around
jump Kerosene
never anything to do in this town
never anythng but jump Kerosene
set me on fire Kerosene x4
SETMEONFIRE

Think about it!

Yours emotional "Killer of Giants"
Kai

 

[Heritage Softail]

The farce is strong in that one

 

[Rash]

It is a strong lyric.....I posted the performance, sometimes geek rock is more powerfull than anything, you do not need to play much guitar for it......

Being at home is save secure, but also limiting.....your own flame vanishes, it can be (often my) a prison in a lot of ways.....



Ambivalent
bad/good => often not clear =>both

Kai