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I need to to do clips . No time I’m life . But soon hopefully. I’m telling you my MTL2 has for me been closest to Cowboys and Vulgar without boosts and eq.one with el34 . The one with 6l6 doesn’t at all . The razor sharp part of the tone gives it the dime highs and feel
 
I recently found myself wondering this exactly, would love to hear some clips!
 
I use my RG100ES all the time. It flat out kills. I run it with four 4x12’s, a simple delay in the loop and a Peper’s Dirty Tree out front. I even pull the treble pot for the added clipping. I’m driving the shit out of the front of the amp and it sounds glorious. I still shake my head wonder why more people here don’t own one…. Especially since you could snag them all day for $200-$300 before the pandemic.

Don’t even get me started talking about running the RG with the wet dry wet rig and Strategy 400 power amp.
 
Had them all at some point. The Warhead X2 is dime in a box. No boost or outboard EQ needed.
But they are super noisy and finicky. There are more broken ones out there than fully operational ones.
Shoulda kept the C200.
 
I use my RG100ES all the time. It flat out kills. I run it with four 4x12’s, a simple delay in the loop and a Peper’s Dirty Tree out front. I even pull the treble pot for the added clipping. I’m driving the shit out of the front of the amp and it sounds glorious. I still shake my head wonder why more people here don’t own one…. Especially since you could snag them all day for $200-$300 before the pandemic.

Don’t even get me started talking about running the RG with the wet dry wet rig and Strategy 400 power amp.
Try it into your V800. Amazing.
 
didnt Lynch use one on tooth and nail and others?? i would think that would be enough for guys around here to want one, but theyd rather think it was an SLO and spend 10x as much :ROFLMAO:
I have an RG. It's cool. Fun little amp that sounds great.

But every one of my tube amps will eat it alive. SS is still SS. Slaving it out to my HH turns it into a monster...but not as much of a monster as any of my tube amps slaved into the HH.

RGs are cool but they have their limitations due to the SS power.
 
I have an RG. It's cool. Fun little amp that sounds great.

But every one of my tube amps will eat it alive. SS is still SS. Slaving it out to my HH turns it into a monster...but not as much of a monster as any of my tube amps slaved into the HH.

RGs are cool but they have their limitations due to the SS power.
As a kid I bought rgs and warheads and Randall’s and could not jive . Not bad amps just felt weird
 
I have an RG. It's cool. Fun little amp that sounds great.

But every one of my tube amps will eat it alive. SS is still SS. Slaving it out to my HH turns it into a monster...but not as much of a monster as any of my tube amps slaved into the HH.

RGs are cool but they have their limitations due to the SS power.
Agreed. Great amp, always sounded impressive on its own, but then I'd AB the 1986 RG100ES I had with my tube amps and would just come 2D/flat and just lacking to me comparatively, but for the $400 I paid for it at the time it was very very tough to rival
 
I use my RG100ES all the time. It flat out kills. I run it with four 4x12’s, a simple delay in the loop and a Peper’s Dirty Tree out front. I even pull the treble pot for the added clipping. I’m driving the shit out of the front of the amp and it sounds glorious. I still shake my head wonder why more people here don’t own one…. Especially since you could snag them all day for $200-$300 before the pandemic.

Don’t even get me started talking about running the RG with the wet dry wet rig and Strategy 400 power amp.
The thing is we could do all those same exact things to lots of others amps that don't sound amazing on their own and then a lot of guys will probably find it impressive from all those supplemental things you mentioned that imo add an artificial wow factor in a way, but some point it's like the amp itself isn't really the main impressive part anymore of what they're hearing
 
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The thing is we could do all those same exact things to lots of others amps that don't sound amazing on their own and then a lot of guys will probably find it impressive from all those supplemental things you mentioned that imo add an artificial wow factor in a way, but some point it's like the amp itself isn't really the main impressive part anymore of what they're hearing
This isn’t meant to be an attack on you personally, but this narrow idea that pedals are used because the underlying amp needs it….is bullshit. Basically, if you use anything else to enhance the underlying amp you are adding an artificial wow??? This is likely 90%+ of the guitar playing population. Most of use use pedals to enhance what we like or even get us “there” with an amp we like or own. Whether the pedal is to add gain, chorus, delay, etc, shouldn’t matter. I mean, let’s look at the easiest example… Eddie Van Halen. He used tons of effects and delays to become who he was. ? He even had a name for it “jape”. Look at the fever pitch going on right now with the new Boss SDE-3000. I guess Eddie didn’t like amps he used since he was running like 10 pedals out front, then into multiple delays and additional power amps. ? and I’m talking EVERY amp he used… Marshall, SLO, 5150 and EVH amps.

I don’t need to mention Dimebag since he used an RG with a ton of effects to get the tone he has…. Which lots of people try to emulate.

Let’s use your opinion on Mesa amps. Everyone who got the ++ mod must not like the underlying amp because they needed to get the amp modified to sound better?

With the RG, I actually like the sound of the amp without a pedal and actually set it up to sound killer in its natural state. That said, it’s super fun to slam the front end and get massive gain. When I had my CCV, I rarely used a pedal out front, but I wasn’t ignorant to the fact that using a pedal and change the amps setting got me something different.
 
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I have an RG. It's cool. Fun little amp that sounds great.

But every one of my tube amps will eat it alive. SS is still SS. Slaving it out to my HH turns it into a monster...but not as much of a monster as any of my tube amps slaved into the HH.

RGs are cool but they have their limitations due to the SS power.
I don't know man... I've owned alot of tube heads and those old Randall's hold their own, they even sound bigger and punchier than a lot of tube amps I've played if you set them right and with a boost. Just as loud too if you're running it at 4 ohms. The band Crowbar still use these amps to this day and they sound fucking huge live.
 
I don't know man... I've owned alot of tube heads and those old Randall's hold their own, they even sound bigger and punchier than a lot of tube amps I've played if you set them right and with a boost. Just as loud too if you're running it at 4 ohms. The band Crowbar still use these amps to this day and they sound fucking huge live.
They are really nice sounding amps for sure...and probably the best bang for the buck out there...I think my opinion is simply based on the fact that the SS amps will not get power tube compression/distortion, which I really enjoy when I can turn my amps up.
So in that sense, even though the RG really does a great job sounding/feeling like a tube amp, you're not going to get that compression that I like.
Re wiring a 16 ohm cab for 4 ohms, those Randalls will give enough power for any gig with multiple cabs. It's just that tube compression that I miss.
 
The band Crowbar still use these amps to this day and they sound fucking huge live.


yup, my buddy sent me this pic recently when he was working with them, looks like pretty much the same settings dime used

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yup, my buddy sent me this pic recently when he was working with them, looks like pretty much the same settings dime used

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Ya, very low on the mids and treble, but the presence is cranked and bass is really high, that's the secret to their tone, that and the mt-2 boost. Up at volumes like that, 4.5 (that's right before the power section craps out) on the master into two 4x12's is quite the experience... it's like a sledge hammer hitting you in the head or something with each palm mute, lol.
 

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