Parallel Or Serial Loop

[ttosh]

If your amp has both or if you could choose one over the other which would you choose? I know each have their strengths for certain applications, just want to know which one you would choose if you could only have one given each were as transparent as possible.

Go!

 

[Gutmann]

It depends on the effects you want to use in the loop.
For delay or reverb i'd choose a parallel loop to keep a part of the signal dry in the amp, for effects like chorus or phaser/flanger a booster, a volume pedal or compressors it might sound better to send the whole signal through a serial loop to the effect.

For the empress super delay in the schmidt's loop I prefer a parallel loop...

 

[Bishop5150]

Well, it does depend on what kind of effects you are using. Digital effects tend not to work well with a parallel effects loop. So for me, since I use a G-System, I go with a serial loop.

 

[stratotone]

serial usually, most parallel ones have this gawdaful phase thing going on if your effects dry is delayed at all from the original signal - even 1ms creates this comb filter effect that drives me crazy.

If I was going to just leave it set up at home, I'd take a line out from my amp, run effects to it and another poweramp (W/D/W setup). It's the best sounding IMHO, just a lot of gear to tote to a gig.

Pete

 

[thiswaythatway]

I like serial with pedals and parallel with rack units.

 

[ttosh]

serial usually, most parallel ones have this gawdaful phase thing going on if your effects dry is delayed at all from the original signal - even 1ms creates this comb filter effect that drives me crazy.

If I was going to just leave it set up at home, I'd take a line out from my amp, run effects to it and another poweramp (W/D/W setup). It's the best sounding IMHO, just a lot of gear to tote to a gig.

Pete

Yes I have done the W/D/W, lots of fun but overkill for most gigs LOL. I have decided that with the H3000 I really like using the Parallel loop on the Diezel the most. Least amount of noise, I am using mostly reverb and delay and I am not hearing any phase type issues at all.

I always have extra stuff to do the W/D/W when the mood strikes, but the Diezel sounds so huge I finally no longer feel the need for it.

 

[ttosh]

I like serial with pedals and parallel with rack units.

+1

 

[Shark Diver]

Digital effects tend not to work well with a parallel effects loop.

Why? Been using digital effects for years with no problem.

serial usually, most parallel ones have this gawdaful phase thing going on if your effects dry is delayed at all from the original signal - even 1ms creates this comb filter effect that drives me crazy.

Pete

You're fx in a parallel loop should always be 100% wet.

Best of both words would be a serial loop in the amp to a rack mixer and you could run it so some fx are serial, and others parallel.

 

[petejt]

I avoid using using effects loop altogether. If I have to use one, it'd be a serial loop. And only for EQ.


I'm keeping my stereo poweramp so if I do want the extra effects, I can run them with that instead of using the effects loop.

 

[Bishop5150]

Digital effects tend not to work well with a parallel effects loop.

Why? Been using digital effects for years with no problem.

I generalized a little to much there. Just my experience with the G-System. It doesn't really play nice with parallel effects loops. Lot's of Mesa Boogie rectifier users have had nighmares with there G-systems trying to get them to work well together. But I used my old Rocktron Intellifex with a triple rec's parallel effects loop years ago and had no problems. Just depends on the gear.

 

[JohnnyC]

parallel loops...only coz i really use delayss in the loop
BUT the fx pedal/rack in the loop MUST have a kill/dry function

series only if i want noise gates/eqs in the loop.

 

[Audioholic]

Series for me