Peavey 5150/6505 Vs Bugera 6262. Friend of mine needs help!

[Tawlks]

So my friend is looking into a new amp and I pointed him in the direction of the Peavey 5150/6505 / II/+ because of the style of music he's into, their reliability and value for money etc etc.

He's been talking to me about Bugeras, I've told him that because of resale value and quallity overall and stuff he should go the route of a used Pevaey rather than a new Bugera 6262.

He's watched alot of videos on youtube etc and read into it quite alot, and has concluded that he thinks the Bugera is his best shot. He says he preferes the clean tones aswell, which I'm not sure about, but I'm yet to play a Bugera.

I'm sure you guys will have a better idea of what's best for him than I do. Thanks.

 

[Dave L]

Is he looking for a head or a combo? The asian-made 5150 combo could be an option... probably more or less in the same price range as the Bugeras.

 

[NinjaRaf]

If he is insistent on it, let him get one. They sound pretty good, and the reliability issues have been fixed. It probably wont last as long as a peavey, but they havnet been out that long, so we really dont know.

 

[Tawlks]

Is he looking for a head or a combo? The asian-made 5150 combo could be an option... probably more or less in the same price range as the Bugeras.

Head.

 

[Tawlks]

If he is insistent on it, let him get one. They sound pretty good, and the reliability issues have been fixed. It probably wont last as long as a peavey, but they havnet been out that long, so we really dont know.

Yeah that's a good point, I'd just rather not have him call me up in a years time saying it broke down or anything. I had heard the reliability issues have been looked at, which is good.

What do you think about the resale value factor? And the difference in sound?

 

[NinjaRaf]

I wouldnt worry about difference in sound. If he thinks it sounds good, thats all that really matters. Its better to have 2 guitars with 2 different sounds in a band. I have no idea on resale value, but I would guess about half what they cost new. I havent seen a lot of used bugeras around. Also, if he buys new, he will have a warranty. I would DEFINITELY tell him to get an extended warranty if possible...

 

[Tawlks]

I wouldnt worry about difference in sound. If he thinks it sounds good, thats all that really matters. Its better to have 2 guitars with 2 different sounds in a band. I have no idea on resale value, but I would guess about half what they cost new. I havent seen a lot of used bugeras around. Also, if he buys new, he will have a warranty. I would DEFINITELY tell him to get an extended warranty if possible...

I've seen a couple on Ebay and the resale vlaue is quite low. I think, if it's his first valve amp that it would be agood idea to try different ones aswell, and to get one he can sell easily for what he payed for.

I personally can't hear any difference in tone. I wouldn't want to judge on youtube clips though.

 

[FIREBALL]

tell him 5150 cause they would survive nuclear winter...they proven that...mine got beat to shit on tour but always sounded good

 

[blackba]

You have given your recommendation, if he goes with a Bugera, that is not what you recommended, so you are off the hook. I agree with a used peavey over a new Bugera.

I have a friend who insists on buying inexpensive gear like Behringer, Nady, etc. The stuff usually fails on him and he just gets another. He likes new gear with a warranty. I prefer good used gear without a warranty. Its just a different mindset. I am not a Behringer/Bugera fan, they are not for me.


I agree with getting the extended warranty and also, I would not buy the Bugera online. I would buy someplace that will take it back if there are issues in the first few months.

 

[NinjaRaf]

You have given your recommendation, if he goes with a Bugera, that is not what you recommended, so you are off the hook. I agree with a used peavey over a new Bugera.

I have a friend who insists on buying inexpensive gear like Behringer, Nady, etc. The stuff usually fails on him and he just gets another. He likes new gear with a warranty. I prefer good used gear without a warranty. Its just a different mindset. I am not a Behringer/Bugera fan, they are not for me.


I agree with getting the extended warranty and also, I would not buy the Bugera online. I would buy someplace that will take it back if there are issues in the first few months.

When I started out, I had a behringer mixer and I still have a nady kick drum mic thats about 15 years old. My buddy still has the mixer, 6 years later too. I havent seen many issues personally with those types of things, but I know the issues exist. I think those types of companies fill a niche for younger, more inexperienced, or EXTREMELY budget minded individuals. They serve their purpose, but, in the long run, you dont see pros using them for a reason.

 

[Tawlks]

You have given your recommendation, if he goes with a Bugera, that is not what you recommended, so you are off the hook. I agree with a used peavey over a new Bugera.

I have a friend who insists on buying inexpensive gear like Behringer, Nady, etc. The stuff usually fails on him and he just gets another. He likes new gear with a warranty. I prefer good used gear without a warranty. Its just a different mindset. I am not a Behringer/Bugera fan, they are not for me.


I agree with getting the extended warranty and also, I would not buy the Bugera online. I would buy someplace that will take it back if there are issues in the first few months.

When I started out, I had a behringer mixer and I still have a nady kick drum mic thats about 15 years old. My buddy still has the mixer, 6 years later too. I havent seen many issues personally with those types of things, but I know the issues exist. I think those types of companies fill a niche for younger, more inexperienced, or EXTREMELY budget minded individuals. They serve their purpose, but, in the long run, you dont see pros using them for a reason.

I know someone aswell who has a few Behringer products for PA with his band, one of which is a rack mixer, and it's not bad at all, feels solid.

There's also the Behringer MIDI footswitch which is pretty good HOWEVER some of the shittiest music equipment I've ever seen has been Behringer. I owned a Behringer effects pedal and it lasted about 2 weeks and sounded awful.

 

[TheMagicEight]

I doubt it would be a bad idea to go with either amp, but I'll bet it's the little subtleties of the feel in the Peavey that makes it superior. I personally would stay away from Bugera. If you're really into music, spending more on an amp better equipped to let you play is a always a small price to pay.

 

[NITROHOLIC]

show him a vintage ampeg V4 or sunn model T getting slammed by a huge heavy ass fuzz and hell forget all about the bugera

 

[ShaneV]

You have given your recommendation, if he goes with a Bugera, that is not what you recommended, so you are off the hook. I agree with a used peavey over a new Bugera.

I have a friend who insists on buying inexpensive gear like Behringer, Nady, etc. The stuff usually fails on him and he just gets another. He likes new gear with a warranty. I prefer good used gear without a warranty. Its just a different mindset. I am not a Behringer/Bugera fan, they are not for me.


I agree with getting the extended warranty and also, I would not buy the Bugera online. I would buy someplace that will take it back if there are issues in the first few months.

When I started out, I had a behringer mixer and I still have a nady kick drum mic thats about 15 years old. My buddy still has the mixer, 6 years later too. I havent seen many issues personally with those types of things, but I know the issues exist. I think those types of companies fill a niche for younger, more inexperienced, or EXTREMELY budget minded individuals. They serve their purpose, but, in the long run, you dont see pros using them for a reason.

I know someone aswell who has a few Behringer products for PA with his band, one of which is a rack mixer, and it's not bad at all, feels solid.

There's also the Behringer MIDI footswitch which is pretty good HOWEVER some of the shittiest music equipment I've ever seen has been Behringer. I owned a Behringer effects pedal and it lasted about 2 weeks and sounded awful.

My favorite local music store got a Behringer cabinet in a few years ago.

"What's that?" I asked, pointing at the cabinet, since it was turned around facing the wall (it had just come in) and I couldn't see the nameplate.

"A bad idea." Replied the shopkeeper.

Words to live by.

 

[Cheez]

Im in this situation.
Recently been looking for a new amp as up until now i have only used solid state, but as im getting more into the writing side of music, im thinking its best to have something that, if needed, i could take to a show.
Been doing LOTS of research into these amps and from what I can see the Bugera seems like a pretty good bet. Im yet to try one out but plan on it soon as i wouldnt buy online if i were to get one, so i do wanna try it first. From what I've read, Yes, there WERE issues with the reliability, but I havent come across any recent failures.. that doesnt mean they dont exist however. I think your friend has a good point tho, the Cleans on the Bugera (from what Ive seen) do seem nicer, but thats just my opinion. I think the 'Bright switch' is a very nice touch and really makes the cleans stand out. Im seriously considering getting one of these amps. For me theres not alot between the Lead Tone of the 2, but i think for the money, The Bugera is the way to go. Yes your compromising a little on the reliability, but it seems that the main problems is the connectors, which you can pick up extremely cheap and swap over fairly easily... and I know one or 2 people who have bought used Peaveys and had them keep screwing up on them.. so either way reliability could be an issue.
Maybe its just me, but its the way i seem to be swaying.

 

[saxxamafone]

^ you want good reliability so you're thinking Bugera over Peavey....

5150/6505's are work horses...THOUSANDS of guys tour with these with no problems

 

[JakeAC5253]

Tell your friend to NOT under any circumstances listen to anything a youtuber named 'mtuck' has to say.

Ever.

Thank you, that is all.

 

[glassjaw7]

Tell your friend to NOT under any circumstances listen to anything a youtuber named 'mtuck' has to say.

Ever.

Thank you, that is all.

Mtuck!!! LISTEN TO MY LOW EEEEEEEE!!!! Guy's a legend.

 

[Cheez]

^ you want good reliability so you're thinking Bugera over Peavey....

5150/6505's are work horses...THOUSANDS of guys tour with these with no problems

No, I dont want just good reliability. for me, tone is much more important... cos you cant exactly be like "my amp never breaks" if you sound terrible. And for my budget, its either goin to be a Bugera, New or a used Peavy. and my point was simply, either way there could be reliability issues, so im gonna go for the Bugera and have the Warrenty just incase.

 

[Heritage Softail]

For shits and grins I played a Bugera Peavey clone. It did sound pretty good. I remember some effect switching issue between channels where you had to reset them. Something stupid. The tone was pretty good.

Aside of that, the music store guy said not to get one for gigging or any situation where failure would be catastrophic. They do not handle being often moved very well. Things rattle loose, solders crack, etc. This was a few months ago. He said they are a great home practice amp. A dozen moves to set up for gigs.... reliability can be an issue.

This makes sense in that the reliability issues have been going down since most gigging musicians don't use them. Bedroom players don't bang stuff around moving it so they 'seem' reliable.

If someone wants an amp, let them get it. When they don't want it, there will be plenty of others out there. I don't advise friends on tone. If they like my tone, cool. If not, go get a cool tone and show me.