Price check on beat up '74 1959?

[Salos]

Thinking of picking up a really beat up 1959. I had a '76 1959 that I sold last year, and I miss it . Figured a real beat up 1959 might be a good deal. I found one on CL, the seller is asking for $900 or best offer, but I'm not exactly sure what a fair offer would be in its condition.

Pictures:

http://s28.postimg.org/4js7h1q4t/00_J0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/yedqwt5zh/00_L0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/nau4r7kp9/00_R0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/b1fpeapvx/00_U0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/4xtjgna8d/01010_ ... 00x450.jpg

No circuit board unfortunately pictures, I'm going to open it up when I go to check out the head. I'm not quite a tech, so I'm planning on comparing some stock '74 PCB photos from the net to what I see when I open up the hood with this one.

I don't think it's been serviced recently, and I don't think the filter caps have been replaced. So I'm going to have to put some $ to get this up and running as it should. I'm figuring an offer in the $700-$900 region depending on what's going on inside the chassis?

 

[Anonymous]

Thinking of picking up a really beat up 1959. I had a '76 1959 that I sold last year, and I miss it . Figured a real beat up 1959 might be a good deal. I found one on CL, the seller is asking for $900 or best offer, but I'm not exactly sure what a fair offer would be in its condition.

Pictures:

http://s28.postimg.org/4js7h1q4t/00_J0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/yedqwt5zh/00_L0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/nau4r7kp9/00_R0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/b1fpeapvx/00_U0_ ... 00x450.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/4xtjgna8d/01010_ ... 00x450.jpg

No circuit board unfortunately, I'm going to open it up when I go to check out the head. I'm not quite a tech, so I'm planning on comparing some stock '74 PCB photos from the net to what I see when I open up the hood with this one.

I don't think it's been serviced recently, and I don't think the filter caps have been replaced. So I'm going to have to put some $ to get this up and running as it should. I'm figuring an offer in the $700-$900 region depending on what's going on inside the chassis?

I wouldn't pay more than a couple hundred for that with no board in it. $700-900 is absolutely f'n ridiculous...

Steve

 

[Salos]

Maybe I described it incorrectly, the board is in it. It's fully functioning, it's just beat to hell.

AH, I see. I meant no circuit board pictures!


Yeah I could see how the original wording was confusing.

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe I described it incorrectly, the board is in it. It's fully functioning, it's just beat to hell.

AH, I see. I meant no circuit board pictures!


Yeah I could see how the original wording was confusing.

Ah, ok... I'd still offer $400 and make sure I got it for less than $500...

Steve

 

[Salos]

Maybe I described it incorrectly, the board is in it. It's fully functioning, it's just beat to hell.

AH, I see. I meant no circuit board pictures!


Yeah I could see how the original wording was confusing.

Ah, ok... I'd still offer $400 and make sure I got it for less than $500...

Steve

Gotcha, good thing I posted here. Thanks for the info.

 

[glip22]

That might clean up pretty good. It would be tough though.

 

[Salos]

That might clean up pretty good. It would be tough though.

I'm thinking of having it modded to be honest. Might get another headshell for it too.

I dunno, I saw it on CL and thought, "that thing's got some mojo going on." And I remembered my old ;76 1959. If this thing sounds just as good for 1/3rd the price... I'll be pretty happy. Thinking Golub or Gower though for a nice high gain mod.

Would it be too difficult to transfer the PCB/tubes/trannies/etc. to another chassis?

 

[glip22]

That might clean up pretty good. It would be tough though.

I'm thinking of having it modded to be honest. Might get another headshell for it too.

I dunno, I saw it on CL and thought, "that thing's got some mojo going on." And I remembered my old ;76 1959. If this thing sounds just as good for 1/3rd the price... I'll be pretty happy. Thinking Golub or Gower though for a nice high gain mod.

Would it be too difficult to transfer the PCB/tubes/trannies/etc. to another chassis?

I hear you. That would be allot of work but can be done. I would try to clean it up first. The stickers can be removed but the issue might be removing the screen printing form the amp in the process. I would give it a shot but I am a detailing freak with amps and guitars. I'm not allowed to touch my Wife because my fingers are too rough for her nice skin

 

[Anonymous]

That might clean up pretty good. It would be tough though.

I'm thinking of having it modded to be honest. Might get another headshell for it too.

I dunno, I saw it on CL and thought, "that thing's got some mojo going on." And I remembered my old ;76 1959. If this thing sounds just as good for 1/3rd the price... I'll be pretty happy. Thinking Golub or Gower though for a nice high gain mod.

Would it be too difficult to transfer the PCB/tubes/trannies/etc. to another chassis?

I hear you. That would be allot of work but can be done. I would try to clean it up first. The stickers can be removed but the issue might be removing the screen printing form the amp in the process. I would give it a shot but I am a detailing freak with amps and guitars. I'm not allowed to touch my Wife because my fingers are too rough for her nice skin

Why bother moving everything to another chassis? You could get new metal panels to replace the back and front plates from any number of sources and it would look like new. Nobody sees the chassis anyway, just the metal panels on the front and back. Do that and get a new head case if the thing sounds good....

Steve

 

[Salos]

That might clean up pretty good. It would be tough though.

I'm thinking of having it modded to be honest. Might get another headshell for it too.

I dunno, I saw it on CL and thought, "that thing's got some mojo going on." And I remembered my old ;76 1959. If this thing sounds just as good for 1/3rd the price... I'll be pretty happy. Thinking Golub or Gower though for a nice high gain mod.

Would it be too difficult to transfer the PCB/tubes/trannies/etc. to another chassis?

I hear you. That would be allot of work but can be done. I would try to clean it up first. The stickers can be removed but the issue might be removing the screen printing form the amp in the process. I would give it a shot but I am a detailing freak with amps and guitars. I'm not allowed to touch my Wife because my fingers are too rough for her nice skin

Why bother moving everything to another chassis? You could get new metal panels to replace the back and front plates from any number of sources and it would look like new. Nobody sees the chassis anyway, just the metal panels on the front and back. Do that and get a new head case if the thing sounds good....

Steve

Didn't know that they were separate pieces, will probably do that. Thanks.

 

[glip22]

That might clean up pretty good. It would be tough though.

I'm thinking of having it modded to be honest. Might get another headshell for it too.

I dunno, I saw it on CL and thought, "that thing's got some mojo going on." And I remembered my old ;76 1959. If this thing sounds just as good for 1/3rd the price... I'll be pretty happy. Thinking Golub or Gower though for a nice high gain mod.

Would it be too difficult to transfer the PCB/tubes/trannies/etc. to another chassis?

I hear you. That would be allot of work but can be done. I would try to clean it up first. The stickers can be removed but the issue might be removing the screen printing form the amp in the process. I would give it a shot but I am a detailing freak with amps and guitars. I'm not allowed to touch my Wife because my fingers are too rough for her nice skin

Why bother moving everything to another chassis? You could get new metal panels to replace the back and front plates from any number of sources and it would look like new. Nobody sees the chassis anyway, just the metal panels on the front and back. Do that and get a new head case if the thing sounds good....

Steve

Didn't know that they were separate pieces, will probably do that. Thanks.

Just glued one

 

[guitarmike]

Maybe I described it incorrectly, the board is in it. It's fully functioning, it's just beat to hell.

AH, I see. I meant no circuit board pictures!


Yeah I could see how the original wording was confusing.

I'd check out what that mod is on the front panel next to the on/off switch. I'd guess it is/was a master volume but you might want to find out. I'd pay $7-800 for it if it works.

 

[Salos]

Maybe I described it incorrectly, the board is in it. It's fully functioning, it's just beat to hell.

AH, I see. I meant no circuit board pictures!


Yeah I could see how the original wording was confusing.

I'd check out what that mod is on the front panel next to the on/off switch. I'd guess it is/was a master volume but you might want to find out. I'd pay $7-800 for it if it works.

Isn't that the Polarity switch?

EDIT: Actually looking closer at the picture now.... doesn't look like the normal Polarity switch, good call thanks for pointing out.

 

[Racerxrated]

If it has original transformers and works correctly I'd pay up to 800. The front panel looks like it can be saved, just remove the stickers and get an adhesive remover that doesn't discolor the panel. Should clean up nicely. Whatever mods are in there can be removed and brought back to stock I'm sure. You can have the headshell recovered or get a new one, you'd have less than 500 additional into a mint condition 74 Super lead, so worse case 1300 if you grabbed it for 800. I'm sure you can get it for less though! Good luck and nice score!

 

[sled]

If it has original transformers and works correctly I'd pay up to 800.

Agreed... but I do my own amp work.

If you're not gonna bite, PM me details and I'll give him 900 right now plus shipping... as long as the transformers are good.

 

[Salos]

If it has original transformers and works correctly I'd pay up to 800.

Agreed... but I do my own amp work.

If you're not gonna bite, PM me details and I'll give him 900 right now plus shipping... as long as the transformers are good.

I'll be picking it up tomorrow. If I for some reason dislike it, or there's an issue, I'll contact you and we can talk.

If it has original transformers and works correctly

I know the OT at least should be Dagnall I think. Any branding on the transformers that will allow me to tell if they're original or not? Or some other way of verifying?

 

[Racerxrated]

I think both should be Dagnall, there will be a number on top of one side of the bell. It could be faded, but google this subject and you should come up with the correct number. BTW replacement PT/OT's can sound killer...my JMP 2203 has a Mojotone OT and it's a killer sounding Marshall. But it takes away from the value a bit. But I wouldn't pass on it because of that.....sometimes you can tell if one has been replaced simply by looking at the condition. If it looks newer than the rest, chances are it is a replacement. Good luck!

 

[Salos]

Just picked it up, we agreed on $750. Gonna fire it up tomorrow night for a quick tone test, but this thing needs some work before it's "road ready." The filter caps look to be marked "10/94," so that's when its last servicing was. I should have snapped a shot of the PCB, but I forgot, it looked pretty untouched. Except for that knob next to the Power/Standby switches, still can't tell if it's wired into the circuit or not.

Interestingly, the power tubes are a quad of Tesla E34Ls, and 2 of the preamp tubes are Mullards, with the third being unidentifiable (to me at least, it says "Electronics" something).

Don't know why the pictures are showing up upside down.

There's some weird white build up (along with regular dust) between one of the transformers and the filter caps:
http://s2.postimg.org/xo1j5bj21/20150811_140111.jpg
Can this be disposed of via normal methods?

Unidentified preamp tube:
http://s2.postimg.org/fjyikoldl/20150811_140124.jpg
Anyone recognize this?

Mullards:
http://s2.postimg.org/m5b8kg189/20150811_140134.jpg
I'm not a tube expert, are these Mullards original from '74?

General back close up:
http://s2.postimg.org/7bwkzoth5/20150811_140154.jpg

Overall, I think this was a fair deal, it definitely needs quite a bit of work..... but $750 for a mostly unadulterated '74 1959 seems like a solid deal to me.

 

[Racerxrated]

Yup that's a good price if it works properly. Did you fire it up before buying? Or power it up while still on standby? Just to make sure it powers on. Not sure what that gunk is, maybe leakage from the filter cap? Google that and see what you find...maybe it needs to go to a tech pronto before even firing it up. But those tubes look to be vintage and if they have life left that's a score in itself. Anyway hopefully not too much extra needs to go into it now, cosmetic stuff can wait so just get the circuit safe and running well for now. Not sure what preamp tube that is, compare the insides to the mullards and it might be another of the same. Chances are its a vintage tube along with the rest..congrats man!

 

[JiMB]

Wow, M-O-J-O!
It's seen a lot of gigs, good luck with it.
Let us know how it sounds.