Pull the High E off Ernie Ball's.

[thiswaythatway]

Anyone else have this issue with their Axis or Luke? Just normal playing and you yank the High E off the board. I actually sold an Axis recently and tried a Luke for a day and brought it right back. I did normal adjustments but it kept happening. I didn't bother mentioning it on the Ernie Ball forum, they'll just say it's my fault, my playing's fault, or I'm just a hatefull troll. My hands ain't big and I wanted to try small necks, but I think those things are maybe too narrow maybe. Coupled with the small frets and to 10 inch radius on the Axis, I gave up. I know the Luke has a 12 inch radius but I actually find that overall guitar pretty much unplayable for me. Tiny neck, tiny frets, and I didn't care for it's tone either, just my opinion.

I want to like the Axis because the neck feels great, just wish it had slightly bigger frets, 12 inch radius, and maybe just slightly wider.

 

[FourT6and2]

What are you saying exactly? When you bend, you bend the string off the edge of the neck? You keep mentioning "it happening" but in the words of the incomparable Mike Patton, "What! Is! It!"

 

[thiswaythatway]

What are you saying exactly? When you bend, you bend the string off the edge of the neck? You keep mentioning "it happening" but in the words of the incomparable Mike Patton, "What! Is! It!"

Just normal playing and you wind up pulling the High E off the edge of the board. I did more time than I wanted on Ernie Balls and I don't do it on other guitars,

 

[cardinal]

I haven't seen one up close in a long time. Does EBMM bevel the fret ends back a lot? Not a cheap fix, but a refret with more squared fret ends might give a bit extra room.

Replacing the nut with one with even narrower spacing might also give you a touch more room.

I run into this with some guitars, and it's a bit annoying. If I'm careful I can avoid the troubles, but then my playing feels stifled.

 

[FourT6and2]

What are you saying exactly? When you bend, you bend the string off the edge of the neck? You keep mentioning "it happening" but in the words of the incomparable Mike Patton, "What! Is! It!"

Just normal playing and you wind up pulling the High E off the edge of the board. I did more time than I wanted on Ernie Balls and I don't do it on other guitars,

Oh. Yeah that sounds annoying. That'd be a deal-breaker for me.

 

[PBGas]

Yup! Tiny guitars and the necks I find very narrow and small. Had both, don't have them anymore.

 

[dirtyfunkg]

I totally thought you meant Ernie Ball strings for much of your post. I was very confused...

 

[Stealthtastic]

Never had this issue but I also primarily play 7s so I'm used to tighter string spacing and strings being near the edge.

 

[motorboy1]

Yup had the same issue. It has a 1 5/8 nut. Very narrow. Ernie ball slightly made the necks wider in the later models. I had a very early run and this issue drove me nuts...

 

[thiswaythatway]

I totally thought you meant Ernie Ball strings for much of your post. I was very confused...

A few beers will do that to my typing skills.

 

[Luca79]

I have a Silhouette and my friend a Cutlass... non have this issue at all.

 

[Deleted member 13074]

I didn't bother mentioning it on the Ernie Ball forum, they'll just say it's my fault, my playing's fault, or I'm just a hatefull troll.

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PS I have the same issue with the evh model, and the axis neck is wider

 

[SavageRiffer]

First, measure the space between the high E and low E to the edges of the fretboard. There should be a reasonable space. A neck adjustment might be necessary as alignment is not really perfect with bolt-ons. Sometimes you have to adjust the neck angle and re-tighten the neck bolts. Also look at the frets themselves. Some frets have an extreme angle and that make it easy to pull the string off the board. That can be cured by leveling or recrowning the frets. However, that's common when you build a guitar, not when you buy a new one. If your guitar is new and the frets are cut at too much of an angle, then send it back. If you bought it used, it's possible someone before you had the frets dressed badly.

Other than that, it's technique. Pay attention to your thumb placement when you play, and pay attention to whether you're using the tips of your fingers or pads of your fingers. If you have a tendency to anchor the inside edge of your palm as you play, that will create a tendency to pull the string off the fretboard. If your hand is too upright, thumb is too low or too high on the back of the neck, that too will cause the tendency to pull the string off the neck. I know this because I've run into all the above. I don't do it very much anymore since I changed my technique.

 

[shred4Him]

Always had that problem with them. Partly the narrow nut, but I think the string spacing is a little wide for how narrow the nut is. I have played on narrower necks (Yamaha Pacifica) and have had zero issues. I really do think the string spacing needs to be narrowed to accommodate the narrow nut.

 

[GBR]

Never had any problem with the high E going off the rails, but I had a Luke model for a while and that instrument just felt cramped and small overall, to me anyway. (And if you've ever met Luke, he's not a big guy). One of the very few guitars I was never really able to get comfortable with, and eventually sold it. Don't miss it one bit.

 

[4406cuda]

When I had an Axis I was pushing the low E off the fret board.