Recommend me some Fuzz tunes/tones...

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J Mascis of Dinosaur Jr. One of the craziest guitar rigs I have ever seen, dude uses all kinds of different fuzz pedals..








 
CaseyCor":1d49jb9r said:
glassjaw7":1d49jb9r said:
CaseyCor":1d49jb9r said:
I am super pissed about my tone right now. Been playing for about an hour now, and I just can't get anything to sound right. Lead channel is SO fucking bright. I've got the treble/presence at 0 and the Bass/Mids around 6-7 just to see what would happen, and it's still super bright, all high end. There must be something wrong with it. It's always been really bright though. It makes leads sound kinda cool, but everything else sucks. And then it's muffled and not enough gain with the fuzz turned on.

ANGERRRR.
My first thought would be that it's a tube issue, but you said it's always been like that?
I think it's a tube issue too. I just noticed that one power tube isn't lighting up as much as the other. It's lit, but it's a bit dull.

It's always been bright, but tonight it's awful. I can't tell if its actually worse, or it's just bothering me more because of my current state of mind. I need to send it into Mesa for a check-up. There is something wrong with the Bass pot on the rhythm channel. Turn it up about 3/4ths of the way,and the bass completely drops out. No low frequencies what so ever. Tone becomes super thin. I still can't get a nice clean sound out of this thing.

I don't have the money for new tubes either. Fuck. I just want a new amp. I hate the parallel effects loop, and the lag between channel switching. I do a lot of switching between clean and gain tones in my songs, and this amp completely ruins it. Signal cuts out for a second when I switch channels, so the guitar is just gone until the channel actually changes. Really pisses me off.
Try swapping your V1 and V4 tubes. If no change it may be power tubes
 
Not sure what fuzz you have, I assume its a muff type. Most of the ones I know have already been listed.

check out some Bush, was just playing some songs off their 16th stone album with my Musket (Big Muff Clone).

Also, the Isley Brothers stuff from the 70's. 'Who's that Lady?' Indeed. :) More of a fuzz face type, but still cool.
 
blackba":1vbccsv4 said:
Not sure what fuzz you have, I assume its a muff type. Most of the ones I know have already been listed.

check out some Bush, was just playing some songs off their 16th stone album with my Musket (Big Muff Clone).

Also, the Isley Brothers stuff from the 70's. 'Who's that Lady?' Indeed. :) More of a fuzz face type, but still cool.
Im fuzzless until my pots come in for my muff. Didnt know bush used fuzz. I need to educate myself ;)
 
droptrd":1wggjxl5 said:
blackba":1wggjxl5 said:
Not sure what fuzz you have, I assume its a muff type. Most of the ones I know have already been listed.

check out some Bush, was just playing some songs off their 16th stone album with my Musket (Big Muff Clone).

Also, the Isley Brothers stuff from the 70's. 'Who's that Lady?' Indeed. :) More of a fuzz face type, but still cool.
Im fuzzless until my pots come in for my muff. Didnt know bush used fuzz. I need to educate myself ;)

I have just recently gotten into fuzz. I had a Russian Big Muff years ago and used to play Pumpkins and Bush songs with it. I sold it (unfortunately) a long time ago. As I have gotten back into fuzz, I am starting to realize how much the effect is used. I am a big Cream fan, but I don't remember trying to pick out the fuzz. Now that I think about it, I can hear it (without even playing an album). :doh: Still learning what effects my favorite bands used and where to apply them.
 
blackba":2zg5uray said:
droptrd":2zg5uray said:
blackba":2zg5uray said:
Not sure what fuzz you have, I assume its a muff type. Most of the ones I know have already been listed.

check out some Bush, was just playing some songs off their 16th stone album with my Musket (Big Muff Clone).

Also, the Isley Brothers stuff from the 70's. 'Who's that Lady?' Indeed. :) More of a fuzz face type, but still cool.
Im fuzzless until my pots come in for my muff. Didnt know bush used fuzz. I need to educate myself ;)

I have just recently gotten into fuzz. I had a Russian Big Muff years ago and used to play Pumpkins and Bush songs with it. I sold it (unfortunately) a long time ago. As I have gotten back into fuzz, I am starting to realize how much the effect is used. I am a big Cream fan, but I don't remember trying to pick out the fuzz. Now that I think about it, I can hear it (without even playing an album). :doh: Still learning what effects my favorite bands used and where to apply them.
I was just getting ready to post the same thing, once you get into some fuzz pedals you realize how many tunes actually used them.
 
gibson08":xx8tp7n6 said:
blackba":xx8tp7n6 said:
droptrd":xx8tp7n6 said:
blackba":xx8tp7n6 said:
Not sure what fuzz you have, I assume its a muff type. Most of the ones I know have already been listed.

check out some Bush, was just playing some songs off their 16th stone album with my Musket (Big Muff Clone).

Also, the Isley Brothers stuff from the 70's. 'Who's that Lady?' Indeed. :) More of a fuzz face type, but still cool.
Im fuzzless until my pots come in for my muff. Didnt know bush used fuzz. I need to educate myself ;)

I have just recently gotten into fuzz. I had a Russian Big Muff years ago and used to play Pumpkins and Bush songs with it. I sold it (unfortunately) a long time ago. As I have gotten back into fuzz, I am starting to realize how much the effect is used. I am a big Cream fan, but I don't remember trying to pick out the fuzz. Now that I think about it, I can hear it (without even playing an album). :doh: Still learning what effects my favorite bands used and where to apply them.
I was just getting ready to post the same thing, once you get into some fuzz pedals you realize how many tunes actually used them.
Im such a Fuzz noob :lol: :LOL:
 
Fuzz is an underrated thing in the guitar world unfortunately. People try a modern day big muff and make up their mind based on that alone, but there are so many types of fuzz. Typically (and I'm paraphrasing this statement) there are only three different types of fuzz, and hundreds of variations.

There's the Big Muff style fuzz, which gets its fuzz from cascading clipping stages and mid scooped tonality from a unique circuit which leaves the low end untouched while the rest of the tone gets squashed and distorted. There are also what called feedback caps on the gain stages which prevent the sound from becoming too harsh and bright sounding, lots of designs have them, but the Muff's are much larger than most designs. The modern day BMP is nothing like the older models, but luck is in sight because they're easier than π to modify back to an earlier version. Pun intended of course. Lots of tweaking is possible with these circuits as far as gain, amount of compression, amount of mid scoop etc, but don't try to make it something that it's not, you will be disappointed.

There's the Fuzz Face style fuzz, which gets its fuzz from transistor stages only, no diodes whatsoever. The circuit gets its distortion from the way the transistors are biased as well as utilizing a unique feedback system which stops the fuzz from becoming 'harsh' sounding. The warm tonality it is known for actually comes mostly from its extremely low input impedance compared to lots of other pedals. Then there's the Vox Tonebender, which is like a much brighter version of the Fuzz Face.

There is the Univox Super Fuzz which couples a fairly typical amplifier circuit with an octave generator circuit to get an otherworldly kind of fuzz sound. The octave generator, when tuned properly via an internal trimpot, interacts with your guitar and amp and the sound is really like nothing else. There is a switch on these units which activates a mid scoop circuit for extra versatility. When played into an already crunchy and LOUD amp, the resulting tone sounds like the walls are going to come down. It's intense.

There's lots to do with fuzz and they all sound good to me :thumbsup:
 
Now that I've started using Fuzz, I really want to get one of each type. I've got the old school Big Muff sound covered, so now I want a Tonebender/Fuzz Face style pedal. I want that Eric Johnson "violin" like liquidy fuzz lead tone. I'm not sure how much that sound has do to with the pedal though. Can I get that type of sound with a fuzz face and my current rig/a more modern high gain amp, or is it a combination of the pedal and an old Marshall JMP turned up loud? Obviously I'm not going to get the exact tone, but that's not what I'm looking to do. I just want that "type" of sound if you will. What pedal am I looking for exactly for this? I can't spend a ton, which is the problem.

I am so screwed with gear right now. I want so much guitar gear, but I need a new drum kit and new hardware/cymbals. And of course, I'm completely broke, and in need of a car as well. I'm just screwed, hah.
 
JakeAC5253":3pj8g7tj said:
Fuzz is an underrated thing in the guitar world unfortunately. People try a modern day big muff and make up their mind based on that alone, but there are so many types of fuzz. Typically (and I'm paraphrasing this statement) there are only three different types of fuzz, and hundreds of variations.

There's the Big Muff style fuzz, which gets its fuzz from cascading clipping stages and mid scooped tonality from a unique circuit which leaves the low end untouched while the rest of the tone gets squashed and distorted. There are also what called feedback caps on the gain stages which prevent the sound from becoming too harsh and bright sounding, lots of designs have them, but the Muff's are much larger than most designs. The modern day BMP is nothing like the older models, but luck is in sight because they're easier than π to modify back to an earlier version. Pun intended of course. Lots of tweaking is possible with these circuits as far as gain, amount of compression, amount of mid scoop etc, but don't try to make it something that it's not, you will be disappointed.

There's the Fuzz Face style fuzz, which gets its fuzz from transistor stages only, no diodes whatsoever. The circuit gets its distortion from the way the transistors are biased as well as utilizing a unique feedback system which stops the fuzz from becoming 'harsh' sounding. The warm tonality it is known for actually comes mostly from its extremely low input impedance compared to lots of other pedals. Then there's the Vox Tonebender, which is like a much brighter version of the Fuzz Face.

There is the Univox Super Fuzz which couples a fairly typical amplifier circuit with an octave generator circuit to get an otherworldly kind of fuzz sound. The octave generator, when tuned properly via an internal trimpot, interacts with your guitar and amp and the sound is really like nothing else. There is a switch on these units which activates a mid scoop circuit for extra versatility. When played into an already crunchy and LOUD amp, the resulting tone sounds like the walls are going to come down. It's intense.

There's lots to do with fuzz and they all sound good to me :thumbsup:
:rock: I shall call you "Professor Fuzz" :rock:
 
droptrd":1fxe364u said:
JakeAC5253":1fxe364u said:
Fuzz is an underrated thing in the guitar world unfortunately. People try a modern day big muff and make up their mind based on that alone, but there are so many types of fuzz. Typically (and I'm paraphrasing this statement) there are only three different types of fuzz, and hundreds of variations.

There's the Big Muff style fuzz, which gets its fuzz from cascading clipping stages and mid scooped tonality from a unique circuit which leaves the low end untouched while the rest of the tone gets squashed and distorted. There are also what called feedback caps on the gain stages which prevent the sound from becoming too harsh and bright sounding, lots of designs have them, but the Muff's are much larger than most designs. The modern day BMP is nothing like the older models, but luck is in sight because they're easier than π to modify back to an earlier version. Pun intended of course. Lots of tweaking is possible with these circuits as far as gain, amount of compression, amount of mid scoop etc, but don't try to make it something that it's not, you will be disappointed.

There's the Fuzz Face style fuzz, which gets its fuzz from transistor stages only, no diodes whatsoever. The circuit gets its distortion from the way the transistors are biased as well as utilizing a unique feedback system which stops the fuzz from becoming 'harsh' sounding. The warm tonality it is known for actually comes mostly from its extremely low input impedance compared to lots of other pedals. Then there's the Vox Tonebender, which is like a much brighter version of the Fuzz Face.

There is the Univox Super Fuzz which couples a fairly typical amplifier circuit with an octave generator circuit to get an otherworldly kind of fuzz sound. The octave generator, when tuned properly via an internal trimpot, interacts with your guitar and amp and the sound is really like nothing else. There is a switch on these units which activates a mid scoop circuit for extra versatility. When played into an already crunchy and LOUD amp, the resulting tone sounds like the walls are going to come down. It's intense.

There's lots to do with fuzz and they all sound good to me :thumbsup:
:rock: I shall call you "Professor Fuzz" :rock:

Agreed that was very helpful. I have a Blackout effectors musket (big muff style). Hartman BC108 (SI fuzz face), and just recently built a BYOC Leads fuzz, which is a clone of the univox super fuzz (Still need to tweak the internal pot a bit more). I like all of them and they all sound different. I know on the fuzz faces you want then first in the chain. Not sure if the Super Fuzz is the same way. On the Big Muffs, I put them late after the distortion pedals, I used to boost my russian muff with a Tube screamer.

The only fuzz I am missing is the Germanium Fuzz Face, but the Silicon is working fine for me now.
 
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