Recto vs Recto

[some dude]

Anyone previously used a 2 channel and moved to a Roadster?

Or vice versa?

In the past I played rhythm and 2 channels were enough (clean/heavy). Now I'm starting to do more lead work and I'm thinking of making the jump to a Roadster for the extra channels.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Not me, bro. I'm Triple Recto all the way and would never switch unless the amp company offered me some easy cash.

Then I would.

 

[CaseyCor]

Have you tried hitting the older Rectos with some different overdrive/distortion pedals? Not as a clean boost, but actually adding a bit of gain from them. I've had some great results using a Graphic EQ and some overdrive pedals for lead sounds. Try out the Fulltone OCD and the B.B. Preamp.

 

[roadifier]

I have. I used to have a 2 channel pre 500 recto, and went to a roadster. The rhythm channel sound pretty close, but the pre 500 is a little more aggresive than the roadster. channel 3 is great for leads. Im trying to find time to record a good clip of my roadster for another member, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. when I get time ill post up the clip here too if you'd like

 

[CaseyCor]

I have. I used to have a 2 channel pre 500 recto, and went to a roadster. The rhythm channel sound pretty close, but the pre 500 is a little more aggresive than the roadster. channel 3 is great for leads. Im trying to find time to record a good clip of my roadster for another member, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. when I get time ill post up the clip here too if you'd like

Definitely! Would love to hear it.

I sent Japetus the link to this thread. He used to have a Roadster, and just bought a Single Rectifier this morning. He should be able to chime in here

 

[some dude]

Have you tried hitting the older Rectos with some different overdrive/distortion pedals? Not as a clean boost, but actually adding a bit of gain from them. I've had some great results using a Graphic EQ and some overdrive pedals for lead sounds. Try out the Fulltone OCD and the B.B. Preamp.

Tried it.

My issue isn't the lead channel, it's that I have to give up my clean channel. Currently I roll back on the volume and/or hit my pickup selector for cleans, but the results are not ideal.

Boosting the rhythm channel doesn't work that well for me either. I currently use channel 1 on vintage dialled in pretty fat for my leads, while channel 2 is on modern and thinned out (for a Recto) to make for a more aggressive rhythm sound. Boosting channel 2 just thins it out even further and doesn't produce the midrange density or squishy feel I get out of channel 1/vintage.

I have. I used to have a 2 channel pre 500 recto, and went to a roadster. The rhythm channel sound pretty close, but the pre 500 is a little more aggresive than the roadster. channel 3 is great for leads.

That's kind of what I'm worried about. I have a Rev F that's similar in that it has more aggressive mids and a lot less bottom than the Roadster I tried. Unfortunately, I've only ever used one in a store and I've never heard a Roadster in person with a live band, nor have I ever been able to turn one up to gig volumes to hear how it behaves in that context.

Im trying to find time to record a good clip of my roadster for another member, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. when I get time ill post up the clip here too if you'd like

I'd be more interested in any experience with how well it performs in a band (cut, bottom end mess, how it behaves when you can't turn it up as loud as you'd like... stuff like that).

 

[roadifier]

I have. I used to have a 2 channel pre 500 recto, and went to a roadster. The rhythm channel sound pretty close, but the pre 500 is a little more aggresive than the roadster. channel 3 is great for leads. Im trying to find time to record a good clip of my roadster for another member, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. when I get time ill post up the clip here too if you'd like

Definitely! Would love to hear it.

k I will try to but, I probably wont make it for a couple weeks I have to clean the house, then my grandma is coming for a couple weeks

 

[roadifier]

Have you tried hitting the older Rectos with some different overdrive/distortion pedals? Not as a clean boost, but actually adding a bit of gain from them. I've had some great results using a Graphic EQ and some overdrive pedals for lead sounds. Try out the Fulltone OCD and the B.B. Preamp.

Tried it.

My issue isn't the lead channel, it's that I have to give up my clean channel. Currently I roll back on the volume and/or hit my pickup selector for cleans, but the results are not ideal.

Boosting the rhythm channel doesn't work that well for me either. I currently use channel 1 on vintage dialled in pretty fat for my leads, while channel 2 is on modern and thinned out (for a Recto) to make for a more aggressive rhythm sound. Boosting channel 2 just thins it out even further and doesn't produce the midrange density or squishy feel I get out of channel 1/vintage.

I have. I used to have a 2 channel pre 500 recto, and went to a roadster. The rhythm channel sound pretty close, but the pre 500 is a little more aggresive than the roadster. channel 3 is great for leads. Im trying to find time to record a good clip of my roadster for another member, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. when I get time ill post up the clip here too if you'd like

That's kind of what I'm worried about. I have a Rev F that's similar in that it has more aggressive mids and a lot less bottom than the Roadster I tried. Unfortunately, I've only ever used one in a store and I've never heard a Roadster in person with a live band, nor have I ever been able to turn one up to gig volumes to hear how it behaves in that context.

I can get the roadster really aggresive though, and get a pretty nice mid heavy sound,

 

[CaseyCor]

Have you tried hitting Channel 2 with a Graphic EQ? Could tweak the EQ for your lead sounds, freeing up Channel 1 for your cleans.

Channel 1 - Clean
Channel 2 - High Gain Rhythm
Channel 2 w/ EQ - Lead Sound

 

[some dude]

Have you tried hitting Channel 2 with a Graphic EQ? Could tweak the EQ for your lead sounds, freeing up Channel 1 for your cleans.

Channel 1 - Clean
Channel 2 - High Gain Rhythm
Channel 2 w/ EQ - Lead Sound

I haven't tried it, but I'll put some thought into it. The issue I see up front is that it doesn't get me around the vintage lead/modern rhythm thing. I don't know if you've used an older Dual but both channels have a very different feel to them. When setup right channel 1 feels like you're playing an elastic band whereas channel 2 feels like you're swinging a sledgehammer.

 

[HMJ]

I have. I used to have a 2 channel pre 500 recto, and went to a roadster. The rhythm channel sound pretty close, but the pre 500 is a little more aggresive than the roadster. channel 3 is great for leads. Im trying to find time to record a good clip of my roadster for another member, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. when I get time ill post up the clip here too if you'd like

Definitely! Would love to hear it.

I sent Japetus the link to this thread. He used to have a Roadster, and just bought a Single Rectifier this morning. He should be able to chime in here

i have never owned a two channel recto till now> single recto but i owned many three channels and went to a roadster but i would upgrade if i were you Some Dude!Casey I am HMJ btw

 

[CaseyCor]

I have. I used to have a 2 channel pre 500 recto, and went to a roadster. The rhythm channel sound pretty close, but the pre 500 is a little more aggresive than the roadster. channel 3 is great for leads. Im trying to find time to record a good clip of my roadster for another member, but I don't have a lot of time to do it. when I get time ill post up the clip here too if you'd like

Definitely! Would love to hear it.

I sent Japetus the link to this thread. He used to have a Roadster, and just bought a Single Rectifier this morning. He should be able to chime in here

i have never owned a two channel recto till now> single recto but i owned many three channels and went to a roadster but i would upgrade if i were you Some Dude!Casey I am HMJ btw

Oops, I read my word document wrong I've got people's names and Usernames typed out in a .doc file since I can't remember them half the time

 

[droptrd]

Lead tones are not the Rectos strong suit.Its tough to get something thick but not muddy and something that plays good. I can get a decent lead tone out of my Tverb with the amp on spongy and silicon rectifier. Add an OD808 and youre there. For leads I like the modern mode. Better highend. You just have to pump up the mids alot.

 

[some dude]

NAD.

 

[roadifier]

HNAD! Hope you like it!
I love mine!

 

[Motorpud]

HNAD!!

 

[CaseyCor]

Very nice! Lets here some comparison clips!

 

[mattTHERIPPERsanchez]

Fuck yes! Put a black face on that Dual Rec, and that would be absolutely beautiful.

 

[some dude]

Very nice! Lets here some comparison clips!

Oddly enough, they both sound like Rectos.


That, and I still haven't gotten around to buying an SM57...

 

[droptrd]